***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    2019
    ^Not the headlines you'd like to see on a "friendly" site if you live in the White House...
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    2018
    you're goddamned right I ordered the code red.

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  • How are faux, Hannity and rushbo spinning this? 4 dimensional chess? So much winning? Spiking the CYA Barr football?

    Dimitri Firtash, the four stooges and the NRA.

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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,094
    "THE FIELD"
    dignin said:
    So now we have the White House admitting to a quid quo pro.


    Mulvaney brashly admits quid pro quo over Ukraine aid as key details emerge


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/politics/mick-mulvaney-quid-pro-quo-donald-trump-ukraine-aid/index.html
    We’re on to the next phase, which is “yeah, we did, but so what, everyone does” right on schedule. 


    They release the readout of the call. Then text messages confirming it. Then he did it live on TV. So Mulvaney is just having some fun I guess.

    Democrats have to figure out a way to demonstrate why crime is bad. It sound absurd but that's where we are.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    mulvaney now claiming he was misconsrued...
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mickeyrat said:
    mulvaney now claiming he was misconsrued...
    “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

    “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,” Trump
  • Now why would Devin Nunca bring up the Steele Dossier? May he knows more than he lets on? Maybe something told to him in confidence?

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  • Surprise, surprise, surprise, RICO statue violations being mentioned in the same breath as Ruddy Ghouliani and Team Trump Treason. SDNY is working on it while Treasury sits on it.

    Dimitri Firtash and the four stooges. SDNY is “following the money.” What’s that? Following the money from Russia. With love. And a PTape. All the fucking way. To impeachment. I look forward to the senate trial.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    2018
    The Treasury...HILARIOUS.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    2018
    I also posted this in the trump thread:

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/kasich-calls-for-trump-impeachment/index.html

    "If Barack Obama had been doing something like this, Republicans would be going crazy," he claimed. "Now it's their own guy doing it. What's fair is fair."
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • Team Trump Treason doesn’t know anything. You’ll have to ask Ruddy Ghouliani.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/parnas-trump-doral-kfile/index.html
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  • Who could it be now? Who could it be now, knocking on my cell block door? Go away, don’t want to see you no more!

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  • My breakdown of the repub impeachment vote becuase the dems need 20 repubs to join them along with the 2 indies. * indicates up for re-election in 2020 (all predictions made with my gut):

    Voting to Convict (11):

    Susan Collins*
    Joni Ernst*
    Cory Gardner*
    Richard Burr
    Chuck Grassley
    Jim Inhofe*
    Lisa Murkowski
    Mitt Romney
    Marco Rubio
    Tim Scott
    Pat Toomey

    Sitting on the Fence, Seeing Which Way the Wind Blows (and it will blow hard) (12):

    Lamar Alexander*
    Shelley Moore Capito*
    John Cornyn*
    Lindsey Graham* (because he's swishy that way)
    Moscow Mitchy Baby* (even he'll get ultimately disgusted when the evidence is made public via House investigation and subsequent articles)
    Ben Sasse*
    Thom Tillis*
    Ted Crud
    Ron Johnson
    Rick Scott
    Rob Portman
    Martha McSally

    Going Down with the Shit of State (30):

    Bill Cassidy*
    Tom "I'm A Warrior, Hear Me Roar (but I'm afraid of the press)" Cotton*
    Steve Daines*
    Mike Enzi*
    Cindy Hyde Smith*
    Dan Sullivan*
    John Thune
    John Barrasso
    Roy Blunt
    Todd Young
    Marsha Blackburn
    Richard Shelby
    Mike Rounds*
    Pat Roberts*
    Jim Resch*
    David Purdue*
    Randy Paul
    Jerry Moran
    Mike Lee
    James Lankford
    John Kennedy
    Johnny Isakson
    John Hoeven
    Josh Hawler
    Deb Fischer
    Kevin Cramer
    Mike Crapo
    Bill Cassidy
    Mike Braun
    John Boozman

    I look forward to the House Articles of Impeachment and subsequent Senate trial. Going to be a hot, hot summer either defending Team Trump Treason and/or your vote, one way or the other.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    2018
    graham and mitch? maybe graham, because he, as you said, falls whichever way the wind blows, but mcconnel? i can't see it
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    My breakdown of the repub impeachment vote becuase the dems need 20 repubs to join them along with the 2 indies. * indicates up for re-election in 2020 (all predictions made with my gut):

    Voting to Convict (11):

    Susan Collins*
    Joni Ernst*
    Cory Gardner*
    Richard Burr
    Chuck Grassley
    Jim Inhofe*
    Lisa Murkowski
    Mitt Romney
    Marco Rubio
    Tim Scott
    Pat Toomey

    Sitting on the Fence, Seeing Which Way the Wind Blows (and it will blow hard) (12):

    Lamar Alexander*
    Shelley Moore Capito*
    John Cornyn*
    Lindsey Graham* (because he's swishy that way)
    Moscow Mitchy Baby* (even he'll get ultimately disgusted when the evidence is made public via House investigation and subsequent articles)
    Ben Sasse*
    Thom Tillis*
    Ted Crud
    Ron Johnson
    Rick Scott
    Rob Portman
    Martha McSally

    Going Down with the Shit of State (30):

    Bill Cassidy*
    Tom "I'm A Warrior, Hear Me Roar (but I'm afraid of the press)" Cotton*
    Steve Daines*
    Mike Enzi*
    Cindy Hyde Smith*
    Dan Sullivan*
    John Thune
    John Barrasso
    Roy Blunt
    Todd Young
    Marsha Blackburn
    Richard Shelby
    Mike Rounds*
    Pat Roberts*
    Jim Resch*
    David Purdue*
    Randy Paul
    Jerry Moran
    Mike Lee
    James Lankford
    John Kennedy
    Johnny Isakson
    John Hoeven
    Josh Hawler
    Deb Fischer
    Kevin Cramer
    Mike Crapo
    Bill Cassidy
    Mike Braun
    John Boozman

    I look forward to the House Articles of Impeachment and subsequent Senate trial. Going to be a hot, hot summer either defending Team Trump Treason and/or your vote, one way or the other.
    I like your optimism.
  • I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
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  • A rare Republican critic

    As Congress left for the week, a few Republicans dared to criticize Mr. Mulvaney. I spoke with one of them: Representative Francis Rooney of Florida, a former ambassador who sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

    What was your reaction to what Mick Mulvaney said?

    I thought, “Wow, O.K.” We’ve had this president saying that the withholding of the funds was not related to his pressure of the new president of Ukraine. I gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. And then this week we had some testimony from the impeachment hearings. Then this thing comes out from Mulvaney. It looks like game, set, match to me on that issue. I heard the words like anyone else, and I couldn’t believe it.

    What did you think of Mr. Mulvaney’s attempt to revise what he said?

    I don’t know how you can walk it back. It’s not like, “I said these three vague things and one thing was misinterpreted.” I didn’t see a lot of gray area in what he said. It was pretty clear.

    Why did you react the way you did?

    There are a few things that really bother you. I’ve been involved in the diplomatic business. I have great respect for our professional diplomats who go about their work. This has undermined them and put them in a bad light. Like Senator Murkowski said, I don’t think its right to use the power and prestige of the U.S. for a political situation. Our foreign policy is supposed to advance the interests of the United States. That’s what we’re in the business of.

    Why were you one of the few to actually speak out today?

     

    There are a lot of people in the Republican conference. You’ve got all different shades of response. A lot of them have no response. A lot of them have a defiant response. Some of them are equivocating. And then you have a couple like me that say, “This is kind of bothersome.”

    Have you talked to your constituents about this?

    They don’t understand how anyone could say anything remotely at variance with President Trump. I’m sorry, but I’m just going to call ‘em like I see ‘em.

     


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    2019
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
    2 things.
    1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.
    2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mickeyrat said:
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
    2 things.
    1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.
    2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
    I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.

    I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.

    Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    2018
    I like the lawyers asking questions.  
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    ikiT said:
    I like the lawyers asking questions.  
    most of congress in both chambers are lawyers...
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I like the lawyers asking questions.  
    most of congress in both chambers are lawyers...
    And most still suck at asking questions in the public forum. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,408
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ikiT said:
    I like the lawyers asking questions.  
    most of congress in both chambers are lawyers...
    And most still suck at asking questions in the public forum. 
    thats because they are very bad at acting, which is what being on television is. acting....
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    2018
    disconnected lawyers like the one who ripped into Corey Lewandowski.  That should be the way this bullshit is handled. 

    This isn't about how Devin Nunes is feeling... it's about facts.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    edited October 2019
    2019
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
    2 things.
    1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.
    2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
    I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.

    I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.

    Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
    Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt. 

    Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically. 
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  • dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
    2 things.
    1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.
    2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
    I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.

    I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.

    Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
    Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt. 

    Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically. 
    Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,139
    2019
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I forgot to add that if I’m the DNC or the DSCC, I’m hitting those with asterisks hard with advertising dollars, tying Team Trump Treason around their neck and stapling him to their back, early and often, as soon as articles are passed and right up to Election Day. If the dems don’t get 20 for impeachment, they just need 4 to flip to gain control of the senate and 13 for a filibuster proof majority. 
    They should already be doing those ads. 

    They should also be holding these hearings in public. 
    2 things.
    1. it denies gop from grandstanding during public hearings like we have seen.
    2. more important allows the witnesses to be more forthcoming in that setting.
    I agree. It also stops the grandstanding by the democrats, which is also positive.

    I've also heard that by making it private it is mostly democrat lawyers asking questions...which is also a net positive.

    Let them gather the evidence and once the trial in the Senate happens (where this will all really matter) it will be public and the democrats should be well prepared and organized. All the groundwork and foundation of impeachment in place.
    Yeah, this may all well be true but I am primarily concerned about public sentiment because that seems to be the only thing that will sway republican senator's minds. I have a feeling that the longer this goes on behind closed doors, the more impatient the public will become which may feed back into the president's narrative of it being another version of the witch hunt. 

    Definitely a fine line the dems are walking here between dotting all the i's/crossing all the t's and handling the politics of the impeachment process. I think they have to be as aggressive as possible politically. 
    Nancy knows what she’s doing and what she’s doing is ensuring that the charges stick. The repubs are waiting to see which way the polling winds blow. All of the evidence will come out either during the run up to the impeachment vote or during the senate trial. And the evidence will be overwhelming and voters will pay attention, particularly indies. Repubs will have a choice, POS Team Trump Treason or the Constitution.
    Yeah. I know all this. This is the plan. I’m just worried about it losing some steam with everything being done behind closed doors is all....
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