***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 31,541
    2018
    benjs said:
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I always thought that you "plead guilty", but that the declaration of guilt is a "guilty plea". 
    and what about plea or plead the fifth?
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 4,182
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I tried looking it up but gave up after a brief search. If and when I have time, I may follow up.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 31,541
    2018
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I tried looking it up but gave up after a brief search. If and when I have time, I may follow up.
    haha, it really doesn't matter. your post just reminded me of it. 
    I think I'll move to Australia


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I tried looking it up but gave up after a brief search. If and when I have time, I may follow up.
    haha, it really doesn't matter. your post just reminded me of it. 
    I think it was mickyrat that originally asked the question and it piqued my interest. Was it plea? Or plead? Question of the century and I’ll leave no stone unturned dammit.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    OnWis97 said:
    That’s okay. They’ll get around to it eventually. Just a matter of time.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 42,567
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    OnWis97 said:
    That’s okay. They’ll get around to it eventually. Just a matter of time.
    tick tock
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 37,039
    I'm glad some of you still have faith that impeachment or resignation is still possible (although, as I've said before, the alternative- that is, PENCE- is just as bad in other ways).  This issue had dragged on for so long, I just get the feeling it will drag on until 2020 and then maybe, just maybe, we'll have a decent president again. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    Chickens are coming home to roost boyz.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 4,182
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    brianlux said:
    I'm glad some of you still have faith that impeachment or resignation is still possible (although, as I've said before, the alternative- that is, PENCE- is just as bad in other ways).  This issue had dragged on for so long, I just get the feeling it will drag on until 2020 and then maybe, just maybe, we'll have a decent president again. 
    I don't see it happening...
    ...that said, while I could nitpick issues where Pence is worse, with Pence we immediately lose the dedicated following that might enable the dynastic dictatorship the Trumps want.  Trump is far, far more dangerous.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 26,357
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 7,650
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I tried looking it up but gave up after a brief search. If and when I have time, I may follow up.
    haha, it really doesn't matter. your post just reminded me of it. 
    I think it was mickyrat that originally asked the question and it piqued my interest. Was it plea? Or plead? Question of the century and I’ll leave no stone unturned dammit.
    I keep seeing pleaded guilty when I keep thinking it should be plead guilty. I must be wrong, but I still don’t like pleaded. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 37,039
    OnWis97 said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm glad some of you still have faith that impeachment or resignation is still possible (although, as I've said before, the alternative- that is, PENCE- is just as bad in other ways).  This issue had dragged on for so long, I just get the feeling it will drag on until 2020 and then maybe, just maybe, we'll have a decent president again. 
    I don't see it happening...
    ...that said, while I could nitpick issues where Pence is worse, with Pence we immediately lose the dedicated following that might enable the dynastic dictatorship the Trumps want.  Trump is far, far more dangerous.
    My issue with Mike Pence (besides the fact that he endorsed a bill that would allow guns to be kept in vehicles on school property, turned his back on parts of East Chicago in need of funding to remove lead and other toxins, is homophobic, and has been unhelpful toward school funding, among other things) is that he knows how to work the system.  Trump does not.  Trump is transparent.  Pence is more opaque, far more apt to pass legislation that is harmful to the environment and opposed to women's rights to their own body, and so forth.
    mcgruff10 said:
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    Yes, but kind of the way an ischemic heart attack is worse than a stroke.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    mcgruff10 said:
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    I’m not sure. One came before Obama and one after and both of them through that lens? Maybe it depends on where you live or lived?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    did we ever decide if it's "plead" or "plea"?
    I tried looking it up but gave up after a brief search. If and when I have time, I may follow up.
    haha, it really doesn't matter. your post just reminded me of it. 
    I think it was mickyrat that originally asked the question and it piqued my interest. Was it plea? Or plead? Question of the century and I’ll leave no stone unturned dammit.
    I keep seeing pleaded guilty when I keep thinking it should be plead guilty. I must be wrong, but I still don’t like pleaded. 
    “Pleaded” feels like your speaking with a mouth full of marbles.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    “Essentially.” Is that a legal definition? Defense? Qualifier? Y’all know I’m going to add it to the list. Insert collective groan here.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 25,937

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 25,485
    2018

    Woodward says the tapes made watergate real ! Yet we have tapes of the current occupier of the WH during the campaign stating all kinds of vile crap and he got elected president go figure..
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 11,493
    mcgruff10 said:
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    By 1000 percent. Bush was an idiot and puppet but at least he understood our system. This fucker cares nothing about the checks and balances or the rule of law. 
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 9,665
    mcgruff10 said:
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    Exponentially worse 

    W was a puppet whose strings were handled by Cheney and Rove. But he at least was aware of and cared about other Americans. And he didn't  do his best to alienate.....
    The press
    The judiciary 
    Congress
    Allies, friends,  and neighbors 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    mcgruff10 said:
    Do you guys think that Trump is worse than W at this point?
    Exponentially worse 

    W was a puppet whose strings were handled by Cheney and Rove. But he at least was aware of and cared about other Americans. And he didn't  do his best to alienate.....
    The press
    The judiciary 
    Congress
    Allies, friends,  and neighbors 
    That is BS...that asshole went out of his fucking way not to mention the help that the wonderful people of Gander NFLD and other Canadian cities provided in sheltering 1000's of stranded travellers who's planes were diverted after 911.  In his 9/20 speech, he mentioned countries like Iran and Egypt and others but never mentioned Canada...he is a vindictive bastard that should be on trial for his war crimes...he did not get around to thanking us until 2004.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 10,739
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 2,264
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    “Essentially.” Is that a legal definition? Defense? Qualifier? Y’all know I’m going to add it to the list. Insert collective groan here.
    No Obstruction 
    No Obstruction 
    No Obstruction
    *Essentially No Obstruction 
    No Obstruction 
    No Obstruction


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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 25,937
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study
    Greatest Country in the World.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 25,485
    2018
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    No doubt about it ! 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 26,357
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    What do you expect after taking over and flying four civilian aircrafts on 9/11?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 30,646
    mcgruff10 said:
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    What do you expect after taking over and flying four civilian aircrafts on 9/11?
    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 25,937
    edited May 2019
    mcgruff10 said:
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    What do you expect after taking over and flying four civilian aircrafts on 9/11?
    Not going into Iraq for the sole reason of making his Daddy proud of him?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 26,357
    mcgruff10 said:
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    What do you expect after taking over and flying four civilian aircrafts on 9/11?
    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
    It was definitely one of the reasons we invaded in ‘03.

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 25,937
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    US 'war on terror' has killed over half a million people: study

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/wars-terror-killed-million-people-study-181109080620011.html

    Trump is a disgusting human being no doubt...but Bush's war has lead to the death and destruction in far too many places for him to be worse than Trump...but we all know that it is all right for the US to chaos and destruction in the world...as long as everything is nice a cozy in the good ole US of A...Trump's presidency will just be a blip...what has gone on the last 20 years in the middle east is horrible and Bush is responsible and anyone else who voted for that war as well.
    What do you expect after taking over and flying four civilian aircrafts on 9/11?
    Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
    It was definitely one of the reasons we invaded in ‘03.

    Using 9/11 as a reason to invade a country, is not the same as that country having things to do with 9/11 warranting an unjust war.

    The then United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in September 2004 that: "From our point of view and the UN Charter point of view, it [the war] was illegal."
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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