***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • Go Beavers
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    I still don't like using the 25th because of the future implications and the damage it would do to democracy. trump is being trump and performing exactly as was expected. This is what the voters wanted, so that part has to be respected. There's also plenty of other impeachment routes that are much cleaner. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    I agree, however, if he is truly unfit, mentally, to execute his duties, the 25th should be used. But Pence isn't going to do that. 
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  • OnWis97
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    I still don't like using the 25th because of the future implications and the damage it would do to democracy. trump is being trump and performing exactly as was expected. This is what the voters wanted, so that part has to be respected. There's also plenty of other impeachment routes that are much cleaner. 
    I tend to agree.  His followers/cult and maybe even a lot of the ambivalent folks would view it as usurping democracy.  As ugly and divided as we are now, it would get worse. 

    I honestly hope he just gets through his four years and does not run.  Yeah, I'd miss some of the satisfaction of him going out more disgracefully, but it sounds like a good offer.  If he runs again, he probably wins.  If he resigns Nixon-style, his cult goes ape and probably gets Richard Spencer or someone elected.
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  • The Juggler
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    Mueller interviewed Reince today...

    The Death March trudges onward and upward...
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  • Mueller interviewed Reince today...

    The Death March trudges onward and upward...
    How's Reince going to do in the Pen with a name like Reince?
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  • Over under on who gets the dirt first, Mueller or Flynt?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/14/have-dirt-that-could-impeach-trump-larry-flynt-will-pay-you-10-million/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_larryflynt-730pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.df7e7f3a9ae0

     You know there's someone somewhere that has dirty dirty dirt on the Donald. Just a matter of time, just a matter of time.
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  • rgambs
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    I still don't like using the 25th because of the future implications and the damage it would do to democracy. trump is being trump and performing exactly as was expected. This is what the voters wanted, so that part has to be respected. There's also plenty of other impeachment routes that are much cleaner. 
    I agree, though his behavior was a controlled brand of chaos and if it gets out of control that's a concern.
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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    Can we please get this piece of shit out already before he starts a nuclear war. 
  • JC29856
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    The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

    Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

    The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

  • JC29856 said:

    The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

    Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

    The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

    And your point is? That Trump’s Russian collusion was/is an Obama plot? Funny place to start your cut and paste. Context. But that said, 7Xs. Must be some news ready to drop.
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  • CM189191
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    JC29856 said:

    The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

    Both men now play a key role in the current investigation into possible, but still unproven collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign during the 2016 election. McCabe is under congressional and Justice Department inspector general investigation in connection with money his wife’s Virginia state Senate campaign accepted in 2015 from now-Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe at a time when McAuliffe was reportedly under investigation by the FBI.

    The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, who Trump fired earlier this year.

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

    And your point is? That Trump’s Russian collusion was/is an Obama plot? Funny place to start your cut and paste. Context. But that said, 7Xs. Must be some news ready to drop.
    JC's point is the same it always is:

    Both sides are bad
    aka Whataboutism  (fka whataboutery)
    variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy

    an attempt to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument

    particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda

    see also: Trump Embraces One Of Russia's Favorite Propaganda Tactics 
  • The Juggler
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    edited October 2017
    2019
    JC29856 said:

    The investigation was ultimately supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, an Obama appointee who now serves as President Trump’s deputy attorney general, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, now the deputy FBI director under Trump, Justice Department documents show.

    .

    http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration


    Golly gee....who in the hell nominated Rod Rosenstein to be Trump's Deputy Attorney General?


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    brianlux said:

    How did I miss this? Fabulous. Did you see this one?




    Yes, I agree that was fabulous, lol.
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    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
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    Spicer met with Mueller's team yesterday. 
  • Spicer met with Mueller's team yesterday. 
    Da da da dumb. Da da da dumb. Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment (in case anyone forgot what its really all about).
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    2019
    Spicer met with Mueller's team yesterday. 
    Da da da dumb. Da da da dumb. Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment (in case anyone forgot what its really all about).
    the more i think about it,  impeachment/resignation or any kind of forced withdrawal could be bad.  Then we get Pence, who's quite a polished politician and a total bible thumping, gay fearing little bitch.  With Republican majorities in both Houses, things will likely get done, and it probably won't be good.