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ccollccoll Posts: 34
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Anyone know how they decide the schedule for induction? And do the artists play immediately after they are inducted?
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Oh shit - are we starting the are PJ headlining the HOF induction ceremony show???? lol
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    Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
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    ccollccoll Posts: 34
    Come on! Even though it's an award show, Noone wants to see journey closing this out. Don't they have a singer from American idol or something?

    I also won't apologize for wanting to see PJ get top billing or the closing slot.
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    I would not be surprised, if PJ gets the closing spot for induction.
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,447
    ccoll said:

    Come on! Even though it's an award show, Noone wants to see journey closing this out. Don't they have a singer from American idol or something?

    I also won't apologize for wanting to see PJ get top billing or the closing slot.

    FWIW... the new singer isn't being inducted. Maybe they can sit him at a table with Dave A.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,071
    on2legs said:

    ccoll said:

    Come on! Even though it's an award show, Noone wants to see journey closing this out. Don't they have a singer from American idol or something?

    I also won't apologize for wanting to see PJ get top billing or the closing slot.

    FWIW... the new singer isn't being inducted. Maybe they can sit him at a table with Dave A.
    A table at a close by McDonalds?
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    EdsonNascimentoEdsonNascimento Posts: 5,506
    ccoll said:

    Come on! Even though it's an award show, Noone wants to see journey closing this out. Don't they have a singer from American idol or something?

    I also won't apologize for wanting to see PJ get top billing or the closing slot.

    I'm not disagreeing, but you guys do realize that the core of Journey were the original members of Santana, right? You can dis them, but know the history. Its not happening, but I wouldn't mind Carlos coming out as a special guest with his buddies and blowing everyone the fuck away.

    That being said, I don't see how the only completely living, currently relevant inductee isn't the closer. I think it's that simple. PJ is closing. They've already said they're doing a special tribute to Chris Squire (bassist/creator of Yes), and that's not closing the show. Tupac is dead, Joan Baez would put everyone to sleep, journey doesn't get along with their lead singer, and hasn't been relevant in 20 years and I can't even remember who else is going in. PJ is closing. I guess the only question is do they really close with a cover song that while it has become theirs and is a great collective jam song, does still belong to their inductor and not them. If I'm not a PJ fan, I'd be scratching my head at that choice.
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    MickeyMouseMickeyMouse Posts: 1,053
    It's usually by popularity. I have no doubt Pearl Jam will be closing it out. They're the obvious choice. 3 original songs and RITFW collective jam with Uncle Neil and everyone else.
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Remember that time that PJ headlined a show that included Beyonce? That was so satisfying......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,071
    MickeyMouse said:

    It's usually by popularity. I have no doubt Pearl Jam will be closing it out. They're the obvious choice. 3 original songs and RITFW collective jam with Uncle Neil and everyone else.

    Please have Neil learn Alive instead of doing RITFW. Please please please don't end with that cover.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    MickeyMouse said:

    It's usually by popularity. I have no doubt Pearl Jam will be closing it out. They're the obvious choice. 3 original songs and RITFW collective jam with Uncle Neil and everyone else.

    Please have Neil learn Alive instead of doing RITFW. Please please please don't end with that cover.
    I agree, it maybe time to give Rockin a rest....
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,302
    buck502000 said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    MickeyMouse said:

    It's usually by popularity. I have no doubt Pearl Jam will be closing it out. They're the obvious choice. 3 original songs and RITFW collective jam with Uncle Neil and everyone else.

    Please have Neil learn Alive instead of doing RITFW. Please please please don't end with that cover.
    I agree, it maybe time to give Rockin a rest....
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    JP218404JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,374
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    Rockin will be the final jam with everyone on stage. Write it down
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    joseph33joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,212
    They always save the best for last. Gonna be the best version of Porch they ever played.
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    JP218404 said:

    Rockin will be the final jam with everyone on stage. Write it down

    Given the current political climate in the US...
    I would be very surprised if anything other than RITFW closes this show. :rock_on:
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,071
    JP218404 said:

    Rockin will be the final jam with everyone on stage. Write it down

    I understand it... but it's still something wrong with it :/
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    wndowpaynewndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Im still going with Act of Love being dusted off for this show..
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    I'm happy you asked because I mentioned to my wife yesterday how much of an energy drain there would be if journey goes on after PJ
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,071
    SVRDhand13 said:

    I'm happy you asked because I mentioned to my wife yesterday how much of an energy drain there would be if journey goes on after PJ

    Like going from Release to Arms Aloft?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,880
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    I'm happy you asked because I mentioned to my wife yesterday how much of an energy drain there would be if journey goes on after PJ

    Like going from Release to Arms Aloft?
    EXACTLY!
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    joseph33 said:

    They always save the best for last. Gonna be the best version of Porch they ever played.

    I can go for this
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    SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,349
    if they don't close it I feel really bad for whoever does lol
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    drlovemonkeydrlovemonkey Posts: 394
    I think Pearl Jam deserves to close... but if Steve Perry joins them, Journey is closing.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,302
    drlovemonkey said:

    I think Pearl Jam deserves to close... but if Steve Perry joins them, Journey is closing.

    No chance. PJ closes no matter what. PJ was at one time the biggest band in the world and is still huge and relevant. Journey is none of those things
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    Journey with Perry would be the top story of the evening. Nothing else comes close when it comes to headlines from the HOF show.
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    jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,851
    Since Beyonce played GCF before Pearl Jam I have a hard time believing Journey, Perry in-tow or not, will play after them at the HoF.
    Confession: Journey were one of my favorites back in middle school....looking forward to seeing them for the first time.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,071
    buck502000 said:

    joseph33 said:

    They always save the best for last. Gonna be the best version of Porch they ever played.

    I can go for this
    ...please don't bring out the swinging lamp...
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    jjflash said:

    Since Beyonce played GCF before Pearl Jam I have a hard time believing Journey, Perry in-tow or not, will play after them at the HoF.
    Confession: Journey were one of my favorites back in middle school....looking forward to seeing them for the first time.

    I'll "fess-up" too...
    I was a Journey fan in the late 70's!
    Even saw them in concert 3 times,
    once before Steve Perry joined the band!!
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    Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,495
    The three songs will be "Jeremy", "Sweet Lew" and "Ole", and then close out with an extended version of "Of the Earth".

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    AggAgg Posts: 462
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    MickeyMouse said:

    It's usually by popularity. I have no doubt Pearl Jam will be closing it out. They're the obvious choice. 3 original songs and RITFW collective jam with Uncle Neil and everyone else.

    Please have Neil learn Alive instead of doing RITFW. Please please please don't end with that cover.
    I agree, I wouldn't mind if they retired it for good honestly.
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