Terrorist attack in Quebec

mcgruff10

I hope all my friends north of here are safe and sound. Prayers to all of the families who have lost loved ones.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

rustneversleeps

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

after they figure it out he should be hanged.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

PJfanwillneverleave1

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

What a piece of shit. It's his and Trump's bullshit that inspires racist attacks like this. Holy fuck, did anyone expect America to turn into such a shit show so quickly?? Or how much it would send shock waves across the planet? I'm pretty blown away from the last few days. Reeling, really.

vaggar99

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

ban the NRA

dignin

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

What a piece of shit. It's his and Trump's bullshit that inspires racist attacks like this. Holy fuck, did anyone expect America to turn into such a shit show so quickly?? Or how much it would send shock waves across the planet? I'm pretty blown away from the last few days. Reeling, really.

Well, lets be fair. If Trump and Bannon had their way this white guy wouldn't have had any brown people to shoot at....just women, who apparently this guy didn't like very much.

mcgruff10

vaggar99 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

ban the NRA

Sure. As long as you ban the ACLU at the same time. Because who cares about either amendment.

dignin

Inconvenient truth is that white, Christian men are Canada's mass shooters
In that context, the shooter at the Quebec mosque is entirely unremarkable

http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/canadian-mass-murders-1.3958772

Bentleyspop

Soooooo...the shooter was a white male Christian canadian fan of trump.....is he also a "pjfan"?

HughFreakingDillon

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

Using a white canadian racist trump fan muslim murderer as an excuse to ban muslims from coming to the US is about as stupid as it gets.

Your 2017 Administration, folks.

tbergs

Still no correction from team Trump? If this was reversed, Trump would have already blasted the news media for reporting fake news. Oh the irony. Karma is looking to collect you hypocrites.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

I guess. I mean... we've only had 1000s of years to do so.

What's been constant throughout those 1000s of years is our propensity for violence, greed, etc. Let's not deny it. Even the most outspoken advocates for peace enjoy MMA, rubber necking at car accident scenes, and coveting PJ items (among other things). The levels of our poor qualities might vary, but those traits are in us all.

There's no cure and there's no definitive. Try and understand all you want, but if you think we might be able to figure out why shitheads do shitty things... you're out of your mind. Even people born and raised in the most ideal circumstances have become brutal.

vaggar99

mcgruff10 said:

vaggar99 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

ban the NRA

Sure. As long as you ban the ACLU at the same time. Because who cares about either amendment.

let's keep the ACLU. it's the NRA that causes problems.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

I guess. I mean... we've only had 1000s of years to do so.

What's been constant throughout those 1000s of years is our propensity for violence, greed, etc. Let's not deny it. Even the most outspoken advocates for peace enjoy MMA, rubber necking at car accident scenes, and coveting PJ items (among other things). The levels of our poor qualities might vary, but those traits are in us all.

There's no cure and there's no definitive. Try and understand all you want, but if you think we might be able to figure out why shitheads do shitty things... you're out of your mind. Even people born and raised in the most ideal circumstances have become brutal.

It's partly about why people do shitty things, and also about behavior change in people without necessarily knowing the 'why'. Violence isn't random, it stems from something. And people can be influenced and changed along the way, in either direction. If you're announcing there's no way to change violence, then in a way you're saying you already know the answer to why.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

I guess. I mean... we've only had 1000s of years to do so.

What's been constant throughout those 1000s of years is our propensity for violence, greed, etc. Let's not deny it. Even the most outspoken advocates for peace enjoy MMA, rubber necking at car accident scenes, and coveting PJ items (among other things). The levels of our poor qualities might vary, but those traits are in us all.

There's no cure and there's no definitive. Try and understand all you want, but if you think we might be able to figure out why shitheads do shitty things... you're out of your mind. Even people born and raised in the most ideal circumstances have become brutal.

It's partly about why people do shitty things, and also about behavior change in people without necessarily knowing the 'why'. Violence isn't random, it stems from something. And people can be influenced and changed along the way, in either direction. If you're announcing there's no way to change violence, then in a way you're saying you already know the answer to why.

I thought I was clear: violence is inherently within us. You can curb it some degree (as I mentioned before... some defy ideal circumstances to commit violence), but you'll never eliminate it.

We're not the only animals to behave in such a way. Apes- our closest species- fight for resources and status. Sometimes they're cruel: they torture and they mutilate. Likewise, they also love, show affection, and seek to participate in and belong to social structure.

I'm not saying we give up. We need to try and raise everyone to be respectful, but we are going to fail in some situations and on both sides of the equation. Did we fail to provide for this tool or did this tool fail us? Regardless of whatever conclusions we come to... this idiot is a failure- not the first failure of his variety and not the last.

We're not missing anything as much as we're not acknowledging what we do know.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

I guess. I mean... we've only had 1000s of years to do so.

What's been constant throughout those 1000s of years is our propensity for violence, greed, etc. Let's not deny it. Even the most outspoken advocates for peace enjoy MMA, rubber necking at car accident scenes, and coveting PJ items (among other things). The levels of our poor qualities might vary, but those traits are in us all.

There's no cure and there's no definitive. Try and understand all you want, but if you think we might be able to figure out why shitheads do shitty things... you're out of your mind. Even people born and raised in the most ideal circumstances have become brutal.

And in those thousands if years we have made great strides towards no longer being the brutalizers you claim us all to be. Yes, I despise violence in society, but also enjoy MMA. I will be honest, sometim s I actually feel guilty about watching it, but it is a sport with two willing participants who are incredibly gifted at their craft.

Most people who turn to street/domestic violence are people who are simply lacking the tools to escape the inability to resist acting on their impulses. Others who kill for no logical reason are usually mentally ill or brainwashed or have been victims themselves. When we learn how to break that cycle, and truly treat society as they need to be treated, we will move farther and farther away from barbarism.