Terrorist attack in Quebec

jnimhaoileoin

Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

g under p

jnimhaoileoin said:

Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

I've been out of the news of late, so what exactly has happened here?

Peace

jnimhaoileoin

g under p said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

I've been out of the news of late, so what exactly has happened here?

Peace

A terrorist attack last night. 6 were killed and many injured during evening prayers at a mosque

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0130/848625-quebec-shooting-mosque/

vaggar99

sickness.

Enkidu

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

tbergs

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Too bad for Sean Spicer. This is why it's important to wait until you have all the facts before making blind statements.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/

"White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer exploited the attack to justify President Trump’s ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the President is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security,” Spicer said at this afternoon’s briefing when speaking of the Quebec City attack.

But these assertions are utterly false. The suspect is neither Moroccan nor Muslim. The Moroccan individual, Mohamed el Khadir, was actually one of the worshippers at the mosque and called 911 to summon the police, and played no role whatsoever in the shooting.

The actual shooting suspect is 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist. A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right “troll” who has been hostile to the group online. And Bisonnette’s Facebook page – now taken down but still archived – lists among its “likes” the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also “likes” the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral “likes” such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry)."

PJ_Soul

jnimhaoileoin said:

Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

It is a disgusting terror attack fueled by the kind of racism that Trump and other right-wingers around the world are fanning the flames of. The attack doesn't specifically say anything new, but the growing Islamophobia that it highlights is very much something we all have to pay close attention to, especially while certain politicians encourage it and certain voters obviously condone it. If Trump and friends keep going the way they are, such horrible, tragic attacks will continue. Of course the fanatical Muslim attacks will increase too. NOTHING good comes out of fear and xenophobia.

dignin

More accurate titled thread.

HughFreakingDillon

tbergs said:

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Too bad for Sean Spicer. This is why it's important to wait until you have all the facts before making blind statements.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/

"White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer exploited the attack to justify President Trump’s ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the President is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security,” Spicer said at this afternoon’s briefing when speaking of the Quebec City attack.

But these assertions are utterly false. The suspect is neither Moroccan nor Muslim. The Moroccan individual, Mohamed el Khadir, was actually one of the worshippers at the mosque and called 911 to summon the police, and played no role whatsoever in the shooting.

The actual shooting suspect is 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist. A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right “troll” who has been hostile to the group online. And Bisonnette’s Facebook page – now taken down but still archived – lists among its “likes” the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also “likes” the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral “likes” such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry)."

spicer's an idiot.

shocker.

shooter is a trump idolizer.

another shocker.

jnimhaoileoin

dignin said:

More accurate titled thread.

Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?

dignin

jnimhaoileoin said:

dignin said:

More accurate titled thread.

Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?

This is where I will be commenting now going further. Even though a few have made embarrassing comments on the other thread that I would like to challenge.

Thanks for making this thread, because we know the OP of the other thread won't be changing their title to more accurately reflect the truth.

jnimhaoileoin

dignin said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

dignin said:

More accurate titled thread.

Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?

This is where I will be commenting now going further. Even though a few have made embarrassing comments on the other thread that I would like to challenge.

Thanks for making this thread, because we know the OP of the other thread won't be changing their title to more accurately reflect the truth.

I had hoped that this terrible event would be viewed with the same horror as any other terrorist attack and that the victims would be afforded the same sympathy and compassion. However, I had a feeling I would be disappointed

Wma31394

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Is this a fact?

jnimhaoileoin

Wma31394 said:

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Is this a fact?

It is a fact that he is a white French-Canadian in his late 20's. I have not heard anything else

Go Beavers

Wma31394 said:

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Is this a fact?

The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?

jeffbr

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Wma31394

Go Beavers said:

Wma31394 said:

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Is this a fact?

The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?

Where there posters of The Donald on this guys wall?? I'm just wondering how it's known he's a big supporter.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

dignin

Wma31394 said:

Go Beavers said:

Wma31394 said:

Enkidu said:

According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

Is this a fact?

The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?

Where there posters of The Donald on this guys wall?? I'm just wondering how it's known he's a big supporter.

An interview with someone who claimed to be his friend said he was. Plus he liked Trump on facebook. That's all I've heard so far.

dignin

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Thanks for the link, lots of info there.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

mcgruff10

I hope all my friends north of here are safe and sound. Prayers to all of the families who have lost loved ones.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

rustneversleeps

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

after they figure it out he should be hanged.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

Go Beavers

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Go Beavers said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

jeffbr said:

His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.

People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.

And, once figuring out why a pencil necked little worm like this did what he did, we can sit around and talk about how the world could be a better place if only...

We will always have mass murders- it's in our nature. Human beings are angry, volatile, and destructive animals. We'd do better trying to figure out why hippos have it out for us every now and then.

I guess since you've thrown in the towel, so should everyone else.

Let me know when you've figured it all out.

With people, there's always more to figure out and there's never an end point.

PJfanwillneverleave1

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

What a piece of shit. It's his and Trump's bullshit that inspires racist attacks like this. Holy fuck, did anyone expect America to turn into such a shit show so quickly?? Or how much it would send shock waves across the planet? I'm pretty blown away from the last few days. Reeling, really.

vaggar99

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

ban the NRA

dignin

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

“It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the president is taking steps to be proactive and not reactive on issues of national security,” he said at a news conference Monday afternoon.
When asked about the travel ban, Spicer used almost the same wording as when he was talking about the Quebec terror attack.
http://globalnews.ca/news/3214989/sean-spicer-hints-quebec-city-mosque-shooting-justifies-trump-travel-ban/

What a piece of shit. It's his and Trump's bullshit that inspires racist attacks like this. Holy fuck, did anyone expect America to turn into such a shit show so quickly?? Or how much it would send shock waves across the planet? I'm pretty blown away from the last few days. Reeling, really.

Well, lets be fair. If Trump and Bannon had their way this white guy wouldn't have had any brown people to shoot at....just women, who apparently this guy didn't like very much.