Terrorist attack in Quebec

jnimhaoileoin
jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237

    Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

    I've been out of the news of late, so what exactly has happened here?

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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    g under p said:

    Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

    I've been out of the news of late, so what exactly has happened here?

    Peace
    A terrorist attack last night. 6 were killed and many injured during evening prayers at a mosque

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0130/848625-quebec-shooting-mosque/
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    sickness.
  • Enkidu
    Enkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Too bad for Sean Spicer. This is why it's important to wait until you have all the facts before making blind statements.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/

    "White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer exploited the attack to justify President Trump’s ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the President is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security,” Spicer said at this afternoon’s briefing when speaking of the Quebec City attack.

    But these assertions are utterly false. The suspect is neither Moroccan nor Muslim. The Moroccan individual, Mohamed el Khadir, was actually one of the worshippers at the mosque and called 911 to summon the police, and played no role whatsoever in the shooting.

    The actual shooting suspect is 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist. A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right “troll” who has been hostile to the group online. And Bisonnette’s Facebook page – now taken down but still archived – lists among its “likes” the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also “likes” the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral “likes” such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry)."
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760

    Thoughts are with the Muslim community of Quebec and wider Canada. In a country known for its tolerance and pluralism, this truly is a terrible and extremely worrying development. Where are we heading and can we turn back?

    It is a disgusting terror attack fueled by the kind of racism that Trump and other right-wingers around the world are fanning the flames of. The attack doesn't specifically say anything new, but the growing Islamophobia that it highlights is very much something we all have to pay close attention to, especially while certain politicians encourage it and certain voters obviously condone it. If Trump and friends keep going the way they are, such horrible, tragic attacks will continue. Of course the fanatical Muslim attacks will increase too. NOTHING good comes out of fear and xenophobia.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    More accurate titled thread.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,770
    tbergs said:

    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Too bad for Sean Spicer. This is why it's important to wait until you have all the facts before making blind statements.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/suspect-in-quebec-mosque-attack-quickly-depicted-as-a-moroccan-muslim-hes-a-white-nationalist/

    "White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer exploited the attack to justify President Trump’s ban on immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries. “It’s a terrible reminder of why we must remain vigilant and why the President is taking steps to be proactive rather than reactive when it comes to our nation’s safety and security,” Spicer said at this afternoon’s briefing when speaking of the Quebec City attack.

    But these assertions are utterly false. The suspect is neither Moroccan nor Muslim. The Moroccan individual, Mohamed el Khadir, was actually one of the worshippers at the mosque and called 911 to summon the police, and played no role whatsoever in the shooting.

    The actual shooting suspect is 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, a white French Canadian who is, by all appearances, a rabid anti-immigrant nationalist. A leader of a local immigration rights groups, François Deschamps, told a local paper he recognized his photo as an anti-immigrant far-right “troll” who has been hostile to the group online. And Bisonnette’s Facebook page – now taken down but still archived – lists among its “likes” the far right French nationalist Marine Le Pen, Islam critics Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the Israeli Defense Forces, and Donald J. Trump (he also “likes” the liberal Canadian Party NDP along with more neutral “likes” such as Tom Hanks, the Sopranos and Katy Perry)."
    spicer's an idiot.

    shocker.

    shooter is a trump idolizer.

    another shocker.
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    dignin said:

    More accurate titled thread.

    Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    More accurate titled thread.

    Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?
    This is where I will be commenting now going further. Even though a few have made embarrassing comments on the other thread that I would like to challenge.

    Thanks for making this thread, because we know the OP of the other thread won't be changing their title to more accurately reflect the truth.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    More accurate titled thread.

    Yes, yes it is. Of course, fewer people will read and comment on this one. Interesting, isn't it?
    This is where I will be commenting now going further. Even though a few have made embarrassing comments on the other thread that I would like to challenge.

    Thanks for making this thread, because we know the OP of the other thread won't be changing their title to more accurately reflect the truth.
    I had hoped that this terrible event would be viewed with the same horror as any other terrorist attack and that the victims would be afforded the same sympathy and compassion. However, I had a feeling I would be disappointed
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Is this a fact?
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  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Wma31394 said:

    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Is this a fact?
    It is a fact that he is a white French-Canadian in his late 20's. I have not heard anything else
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    Wma31394 said:

    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Is this a fact?
    The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
    Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/
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  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045

    Wma31394 said:

    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Is this a fact?
    The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?
    Where there posters of The Donald on this guys wall?? I'm just wondering how it's known he's a big supporter.
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  • jeffbr said:

    His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
    Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

    Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

    Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

    At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Wma31394 said:

    Wma31394 said:

    Enkidu said:

    According to the latest news, the shooter is a white nationalist and big fan of Trump.

    Is this a fact?
    The question first is what meets your threshold and qualifies someone as a white nationalist and big fan of trump?
    Where there posters of The Donald on this guys wall?? I'm just wondering how it's known he's a big supporter.
    An interview with someone who claimed to be his friend said he was. Plus he liked Trump on facebook. That's all I've heard so far.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    jeffbr said:

    His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
    Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

    Thanks for the link, lots of info there.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618

    jeffbr said:

    His name is Alexandre Bissonnette. He's a 27 year old Quebecois. He looks like he's 14 years old. I'm sure he'll have fun in prison.
    Here's some background on him: http://heavy.com/news/2017/01/alexandre-bissonnette-quebec-city-canada-mosque-shooting-attack-suspect-gunman-shooter-photos-pictures-video-motive/

    Another pencil necked little geek shooting innocent people.

    Thank gawd for him he did this in Canada. People will be tripping over themselves to rush in and help, or at least understand the idiot.

    At some point, most of us will have to try and understand that mommy didn't hug him enough and daddy wasn't around as much as he needed to be... sooo... mass murder.
    People try to understand why someone kills people in order to prevent it from happening in the future. Not sure why that would be criticized.