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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,548
    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    @unsung
    What's the difference between a white nationalist and a white supremacist?
    Try and follow along.
    I love a good non-answer. (Because the actual answer reveals)
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    unsung said:
    rgambs said:
    @unsung
    What's the difference between a white nationalist and a white supremacist?
    Try and follow along.
    I've been following. it's an important distinction that you have not addressed. 
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  • unsung
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    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
  • unsung
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    edited May 2017
    This new format is terrible for quoting.
  • unsung
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    edited May 2017
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
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  • Go Beavers
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    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    And this redefinition is how they've manipulated people and why the media has normalized them. 
  • unsung
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
    I can't speak for them, not really sure what the mission statement is.

    Didn't BLM issue demands for an ethno-state or states?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
    I can't speak for them, not really sure what the mission statement is.

    Didn't BLM issue demands for an ethno-state or states?
    ok, but you seem to be advocating for whatever their mission is. why do that if you don't know what it is?

    I have no idea. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    Both are sad.

    I currently live in a beautiful part of the country. I love the lifestyle I lead here.

    However one important thing is missing. There is almost NO cultural  diversity here. I can go days, weeks, and sometimes months without seeing a single person of color. Or a Hispanic or Asian person. It is very very lilly white here and culturally boring. Yes I know that for some people this is the perfect place.

    I look forward  to trips to culturally diverse places like Chicago, NYC, New Orleans, Miami, etc. I love to see and experience different people,cultures, religions, foods,  and hear different languages. 
    Personally I don't get why anyone would want to live a life devoid of diversity.

    My 2 cents
  • unsung
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
    I can't speak for them, not really sure what the mission statement is.

    Didn't BLM issue demands for an ethno-state or states?
    ok, but you seem to be advocating for whatever their mission is. why do that if you don't know what it is?

    I have no idea. 

    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    And this redefinition is how they've manipulated people and why the media has normalized them. 
    I was trying to tell you what I thought the difference was in the two labels.  I can't comment on either's agenda.  Thanks.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    But you commented on or seemed to point out an aspect of BLM's alleged agenda? Umm okay.
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  • Go Beavers
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    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
    I can't speak for them, not really sure what the mission statement is.

    Didn't BLM issue demands for an ethno-state or states?
    ok, but you seem to be advocating for whatever their mission is. why do that if you don't know what it is?

    I have no idea. 

    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    And this redefinition is how they've manipulated people and why the media has normalized them. 
    I was trying to tell you what I thought the difference was in the two labels.  I can't comment on either's agenda.  Thanks.
    You're interpretation of the labels implies you have an idea about their agendas: one is "filled with hate", the other "wants to associate voluntarily". They're actually both of those things, but the label white nationalists is used to try and gain some sort of acceptance and can draw in the bigot who doesn't consider themselves a bigot.
  • HesCalledDyer
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    unsung said:
    This new format is terrible for quoting.
    One thing we can agree upon.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    unsung said:
    This new format is terrible for quoting.
    One thing we can agree upon.
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  • dignin
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    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    but why would you wish to exclude an entire group, or rather, only include one specific group, in your daily life? what is that based on? it ain't tolerance, I tell you that. 
    I can't speak for them, not really sure what the mission statement is.

    Didn't BLM issue demands for an ethno-state or states?
    ok, but you seem to be advocating for whatever their mission is. why do that if you don't know what it is?

    I have no idea. 

    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    One is filled with hate, the other wants to associate voluntarily.  That is how I see it anyway.
    And this redefinition is how they've manipulated people and why the media has normalized them. 
    I was trying to tell you what I thought the difference was in the two labels.  I can't comment on either's agenda.  Thanks.
    You're interpretation of the labels implies you have an idea about their agendas: one is "filled with hate", the other "wants to associate voluntarily". They're actually both of those things, but the label white nationalists is used to try and gain some sort of acceptance and can draw in the bigot who doesn't consider themselves a bigot.
    White nationalists are also better dressed and haven't shaved their heads completely bald, just shaved on the sides and back. That's about the only differences I can see. Just a cleaned up modern day Nazi.
  • dignin
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    Speaking of the white race. This should bother Spencer, and maybe unsung.

    There's no such thing as a 'pure' European—or anyone else

    one self-described neo-Nazi on the district council told The New York Times that by allowing the influx, the German people faced “the destruction of our genetic heritage” and risked becoming “a gray mishmash.”

    In fact, the German people have no unique genetic heritage to protect. They—and all other Europeans—are already a mishmash, the children of repeated ancient migrations, according to scientists who study ancient human origins. New studies show that almost all indigenous Europeans descend from at least three major migrations in the past 15,000 years, including two from the Middle East. Those migrants swept across Europe, mingled with previous immigrants, and then remixed to create the peoples of today.

    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/05/theres-no-such-thing-pure-european-or-anyone-else

  • HughFreakingDillon
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    the thing of it is........we all descended from a common ancestor. there are no races. it's bullshit. 
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  • unsung
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    Nothing is really 100%.  I'm bothered by that as much as I am of the opinion of a leftist scientist propagandist.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    you are bothered by what? one common ancestor? or that nothing is 100%?
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