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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    edited March 2017

    Manafort's an excellent liar.

    & by excellent, I mean really really really really bad.



    I'm sure this Russia story will go away soon though.
    Are you sure he's not brilliant?
    I can honestly say my definition of brilliant doesn't jive w/ some others here, so I'll decline from answering.




    I DO however think this Russia story will be going away soon.

    It's definitely losing steam.
    How's it loosing steam? Investigations shut down, report issued and no findings?
    I'm just being sarcastic. I personally can't wait for what comes next.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423

    mrussel1 said:

    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
    Don't troll. You know that day in and day out ya'll debate the upcoming wall and how immigrants are being vetted correctly yadda yadda yadda. This horror show story doesn't fit the immigrants are all great narrative so it gets no coverage. This is national news since it directly aligns with the everyday discussion of immigration reform.
    By directly align you mean reinforces your prejudice?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627

    mrussel1 said:

    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
    Don't troll. You know that day in and day out ya'll debate the upcoming wall and how immigrants are being vetted correctly yadda yadda yadda. This horror show story doesn't fit the immigrants are all great narrative so it gets no coverage. This is national news since it directly aligns with the everyday discussion of immigration reform.
    It's not trolling, it's pointing out the absurdity of expecting that the story is national news. Did Italian immigrants commit crimes? Yes.. Irish? Polish? Surprise.. they are people too. There are good ones and bad ones. So to expect a population of millions of immigrants to behave statistically better than the general population is silliness.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    mrussel1 said:

    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
    Don't troll. You know that day in and day out ya'll debate the upcoming wall and how immigrants are being vetted correctly yadda yadda yadda. This horror show story doesn't fit the immigrants are all great narrative so it gets no coverage. This is national news since it directly aligns with the everyday discussion of immigration reform.
    who said all immigrants are great?

    shit, who said all Americans are great?

    double shit, who said all human beings are great?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    ^ Love the taste of a delicious nothingburger.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    mrussel1 said:

    ^ Love the taste of a delicious nothingburger.

    I like mine w/ Russian dressing.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,956

    mrussel1 said:

    ^ Love the taste of a delicious nothingburger.

    I like mine w/ Russian dressing.
    And a heaping side of brilliance.
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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    my2hands said:

    mrussel1 said:

    rssesq said:

    local news only. they aren't that stupid.

    Holy crap.. are you saying that the national news isn't reporting on a local rape story? Why that is SO biased. I mean every other rape and sexual assault is the lead on NBC Nightly News. In fact, Walter Cronkite used to read the names of all rape victims of the previous 24 hours to lead the newscast. Fucking liberal media.
    Don't troll. You know that day in and day out ya'll debate the upcoming wall and how immigrants are being vetted correctly yadda yadda yadda. This horror show story doesn't fit the immigrants are all great narrative so it gets no coverage. This is national news since it directly aligns with the everyday discussion of immigration reform.
    who said all immigrants are great?

    shit, who said all Americans are great?

    double shit, who said all human beings are great?
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-arrested-2-teens-found-dead-colorado-093856734.html
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    BUILD THAT WALL!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,956
    The republicans in congress are now complicit in the cover up.

    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/319438-house-panel-votes-against-requesting-trumps-tax-returns#

    It's still just a matter of time. Follow the money.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423
    Is it weird that people close to Trump keep changing their stories?



    Nothingburger w/ fries, I'm sure.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    thanks eli, lol
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,062
    Fox poll: favorability ratings. Sanders: 61%. trump 44%. Factor in the bias and Sanders is even higher and trumpy lower. Real News!
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435

    Fox poll: favorability ratings. Sanders: 61%. trump 44%. Factor in the bias and Sanders is even higher and trumpy lower. Real News!

    Trump SAD!
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    immigrant or not? I wonder what the odds makers in vegas would put the numbers at
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/two-dead-others-injured-in-uk-parliament-terrorist-incident/ar-BByAV0u?ocid=spartanntp


  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    Why yes, it is. It's a pretty big shoe too...

    https://www.apnews.com/122ae0b5848345faa88108a03de40c5a
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    Incidental collection.. no one argued it. Is it news that Flynn was picked up in surveillance while monitoring the Russian ambassador?

    Nunes described the surveillance as most likely being “incidental collection.” This can occur when a person inside the United States communicates with a foreign target of U.S. surveillance. In such cases, the identities of U.S. citizens are supposed to be kept secret — but can be “unmasked” by intelligence officials under certain circumstances.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,435
    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    "Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community."

    We don't have all the facts yet. I think we can all agree on that.
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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Wonder what kind of singing voice Manafort has, because he is gonna be singing at the top of his lungs
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627

    Wonder what kind of singing voice Manafort has, because he is gonna be singing at the top of his lungs

    I don't know if you rat out the Russians.. that seems to be a risky proposition.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,433
    rssesq said:
    So your answer is a false sense of security as a result of fear-mongering. Got it.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,423

    rssesq said:
    So your answer is a false sense of security as a result of fear-mongering. Got it.
    I wonder what the gun control laws are like in those 65 countries, and if we'll be advocating for those too.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mfc2006 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    "Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community."

    We don't have all the facts yet. I think we can all agree on that.
    Exactly. That is the whole point. Trump might still be proven right on surveillance.
  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055
    edited March 2017
    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    the daily kos called it a "bombshell of vagueness"

    if the campaign and transition team weren't so busy running their mouths to the Russians instead of figuring out how to actually govern and doing things the American public actually wanted (like not torpedoing the EPA and the Department of Education), they wouldn't find themselves being surveilled (incidentally).

    idiots.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627

    Wonder what kind of singing voice Manafort has, because he is gonna be singing at the top of his lungs

    I don't know if you rat out the Russians.. that seems to be a risky proposition.
    BS44325 said:

    mfc2006 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Cards being put on the table

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/devin-nunes-donald-trump-surveillance-obama-236366

    You hear that? That's the sound of the other shoe dropping.

    "Nunes said the surveillance appeared to be legal but that he was concerned because it was not related to the FBI’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the election and was widely disseminated across the intelligence community."

    We don't have all the facts yet. I think we can all agree on that.
    Exactly. That is the whole point. Trump might still be proven right on surveillance.
    Proven right the he was wiretapped by Obama? Seems like we closed that book already.
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