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Your article means nothing when it comes to proving anything wrong about President Trump. It is even stated in the article. What you just posted is a fake news hysteria. The Reuters review of investors from Russia in Trump’s Florida condominium buildings found no suggestion of wrongdoing by President Trump or his real estate organization. And none of the buyers appear to be from Putin’s inner circle.
Your article means nothing when it comes to proving anything wrong about President Trump. It is even stated in the article. What you just posted is a fake news hysteria. The Reuters review of investors from Russia in Trump’s Florida condominium buildings found no suggestion of wrongdoing by President Trump or his real estate organization. And none of the buyers appear to be from Putin’s inner circle.
Yeah....the editor probably should have just buried this one. Nothing to see here citizen, move along.
Don't you get tired of carrying that water? You sound tired.
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Your article means nothing when it comes to proving anything wrong about President Trump. It is even stated in the article. What you just posted is a fake news hysteria. The Reuters review of investors from Russia in Trump’s Florida condominium buildings found no suggestion of wrongdoing by President Trump or his real estate organization. And none of the buyers appear to be from Putin’s inner circle.
Yeah....the editor probably should have just buried this one. Nothing to see here citizen, move along.
Don't you get tired of carrying that water? You sound tired.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
I was trying to be nice with 40, that's likely his absolute ceiling moving forward. SCOTUS was a done deal as soon as the spray tanned dipshit won in November and frankly has nothing to do with the president and how he has done so far. Not to mention Gorsuch already chastised Trump for his ridiculous comments about judges.
History sure is being written, and you're on the wrong side of it
It's funny watching someone as intelligent & rational as you contiued to try and defend or excuse away this disaster. You guys blew the golden opportunity LOL
You keep saying "you guys" as if I live in your country and participated in your election but if "blowing a golden opportunity" is controlling all three branches of government followed by the nomination of a conservative justice to the supreme court then fuck man...sign me up for blowing golden opportunities...sign me up for being on the wrong side of history!
Also...for some reason rasmussen has Trump at 50 today
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
I was trying to be nice with 40, that's likely his absolute ceiling moving forward. SCOTUS was a done deal as soon as the spray tanned dipshit won in November and frankly has nothing to do with the president and how he has done so far. Not to mention Gorsuch already chastised Trump for his ridiculous comments about judges.
History sure is being written, and you're on the wrong side of it
It's funny watching someone as intelligent & rational as you contiued to try and defend or excuse away this disaster. You guys blew the golden opportunity LOL
You keep saying "you guys" as if I live in your country and participated in your election but if "blowing a golden opportunity" is controlling all three branches of government followed by the nomination of a conservative justice to the supreme court then fuck man...sign me up for blowing golden opportunities...sign me up for being on the wrong side of history!
Also...for some reason rasmussen has Trump at 50 today
Interesting, I wonder if her office has a nice view? Ivanka Trump is working out of a West Wing office and will get access to classified information, though she is not technically serving as a government employee, according to an attorney for the first daughter. The first daughter will not have an official title, but will get a West Wing office, government-issued communications devices and security clearance to access classified information. Gorelick said Ivanka Trump would follow the ethics rules that apply to government employees. "Our view is that the conservative approach is for Ivanka to voluntarily comply with the rules that would apply if she were a government employee, even though she is not," A person with knowledge of Ivanka Trump's thinking can offer more independent perspective to her father by not serving as a White House staffer. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/first-daughter-ivanka-trump-gets-west-wing-office/ar-BByuqHl?ocid=spartanntp
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
Haha. That's the same with comments anywhere. Hell half the time the AMT isn't any better!
Interesting, I wonder if her office has a nice view? Ivanka Trump is working out of a West Wing office and will get access to classified information, though she is not technically serving as a government employee, according to an attorney for the first daughter. The first daughter will not have an official title, but will get a West Wing office, government-issued communications devices and security clearance to access classified information. Gorelick said Ivanka Trump would follow the ethics rules that apply to government employees. "Our view is that the conservative approach is for Ivanka to voluntarily comply with the rules that would apply if she were a government employee, even though she is not," A person with knowledge of Ivanka Trump's thinking can offer more independent perspective to her father by not serving as a White House staffer. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/first-daughter-ivanka-trump-gets-west-wing-office/ar-BByuqHl?ocid=spartanntp
Because managing a failed jewelry line gives her particular knowledge and insight into affairs of national importance. Or for personal financial gain. Brilliant.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
Haha. That's the same with comments anywhere. Hell half the time the AMT isn't any better!
Not even close. And that's with every news site, it's a fucking wasteland out there. The mods ( thanks Kat) keep it quite civilized here.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
Haha. That's the same with comments anywhere. Hell half the time the AMT isn't any better!
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Crazy, isn't it. This "freedom caucus" is ruining the GOP like we all knew it would since Tea Party appeared 8 years ago and now magically disappeared. Ted Cruz keeps saying he's going to put out a repeal bill and deal with replacement later. What?! Of everything to "deal with later" it's MILLIONS of citizens access to health insurance. Fuck the freedom caucus and anyone who supports what Cruz is proposing.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Not so crazy. Those people drifted into office riding the soup du jour. When the winds shift the other direction, they know enough to follow the sails. These people are not leaders, visionaries, or anything of the sense. They're little more than a barometer.
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I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
Haha. That's the same with comments anywhere. Hell half the time the AMT isn't any better!
Oh come on now, that's an exaggeration!
Is it? We've had a good string of anti-semitism on here over the last few months. I'm not suggesting that it's the mods job to deal with it but we all know that it exists.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
Haha...if I linked to Breitbart I would never hear the end of it! For real though you could be right...I don't see how Ryan puts it to a vote if he doesn't have the numbers. Tomorrow is the make or break day...we should remember that there was no guarantee that Obamacare would pass up until the last minute... a lot of horse trading was done. I just don't get why the House wouldn't pass and then let the senate pass their version followed by hashing out the differences in conference? I side with the ideological conservatives on this but I just don't get how they think they'll get the perfect bill? The numbers will never be there.
I read Breitbart here and there.. mostly to see what they are NOT reporting these days.. For example they never reported anything about Milo getting shit canned. Never really said much about the hearing yesterday (although Fox said it was 'uneventful..ha!). But what I try not to do is read the comments. You'll lose your faith in humanity if you do that. It's a poison well.
Haha. That's the same with comments anywhere. Hell half the time the AMT isn't any better!
Oh come on now, that's an exaggeration!
Is it? We've had a good string of anti-semitism on here over the last few months. I'm not suggesting that it's the mods job to deal with it but we all know that it exists.
We sure have.. and it was dealt with.. but it's not a fraction as bad as the Breitbart stuff. I'm not aware of any other "liberal" publication that allows comments like the ones over there. You don't see it at HuffPo, Politico or anywhere like that.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Crazy, isn't it. This "freedom caucus" is ruining the GOP like we all knew it would since Tea Party appeared 8 years ago and now magically disappeared. Ted Cruz keeps saying he's going to put out a repeal bill and deal with replacement later. What?! Of everything to "deal with later" it's MILLIONS of citizens access to health insurance. Fuck the freedom caucus and anyone who supports what Cruz is proposing.
I'm not sure that they are "ruining" the GOP just yet but this is why I don't think failure necessarily blows back to hurt Trump. Trump beat Cruz et al before and will look like the moderate who tried to "fix" Obamacare before the collapse. To be accurate though I don't think Cruz is a definite "no" vote at the moment. Rand Paul seems to be leading the charge from the right while Collins is hitting the bill from the left.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Crazy, isn't it. This "freedom caucus" is ruining the GOP like we all knew it would since Tea Party appeared 8 years ago and now magically disappeared. Ted Cruz keeps saying he's going to put out a repeal bill and deal with replacement later. What?! Of everything to "deal with later" it's MILLIONS of citizens access to health insurance. Fuck the freedom caucus and anyone who supports what Cruz is proposing.
I'm not sure that they are "ruining" the GOP just yet but this is why I don't think failure necessarily blows back to hurt Trump. Trump beat Cruz et al before and will look like the moderate who tried to "fix" Obamacare before the collapse. To be accurate though I don't think Cruz is a definite "no" vote at the moment. Rand Paul seems to be leading the charge from the right while Collins is hitting the bill from the left.
Cruz has no moral center. He will vote to his personal political advantage, however badly he misreads the moment. Rand Paul, as much as I disagree with most of his governing philosophy (starting with his first name), has proven to be pretty well principled. I hope he doesn't disappoint me.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Crazy, isn't it. This "freedom caucus" is ruining the GOP like we all knew it would since Tea Party appeared 8 years ago and now magically disappeared. Ted Cruz keeps saying he's going to put out a repeal bill and deal with replacement later. What?! Of everything to "deal with later" it's MILLIONS of citizens access to health insurance. Fuck the freedom caucus and anyone who supports what Cruz is proposing.
I'm not sure that they are "ruining" the GOP just yet but this is why I don't think failure necessarily blows back to hurt Trump. Trump beat Cruz et al before and will look like the moderate who tried to "fix" Obamacare before the collapse. To be accurate though I don't think Cruz is a definite "no" vote at the moment. Rand Paul seems to be leading the charge from the right while Collins is hitting the bill from the left.
Cruz has no moral center. He will vote to his personal political advantage, however badly he misreads the moment. Rand Paul, as much as I disagree with most of his governing philosophy (starting with his first name), has proven to be pretty well principled. I hope he doesn't disappoint me.
I can't imagine Paul becoming a yes vote but he doesn't have to be. The senate can write their own bill and both houses can work out something different in conference. Paul can then be a yes for a bill more to his liking provided reconciliation allows for this. Again I just don't get how Paul thinks he can get a perfect bill...a clean repeal can't happen without 60 votes. He seems to think that letting Obamacare collapse will allow for some future more conservative repeal and replace. That's a massive gamble.
I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore
Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake
The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...
My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018
You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now
Your folks blew it. LOL
Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.
Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
It could easily fail at this stage but I am still not sure where the fallout lands. Trump is definitely expending his personal capital but he ran against both parties anyways so he can continue to do the same come 2020. My personal feeling is that failure hurts GOP house and senate members more (specifically Paul Ryan) but come 2018 Obamacare will still be the law of the land and it will also be on the edge of collapse. Will that collapse make a favourable 2018 landscape for republicans less favourable? Will red state democratic senators be more secure following this collapse? Ryan/McConnel/Trump believe that failure to change the law will be seen as neglectful inaction while Paul/Freedom Caucus believe letting Obamacare collapse under it's own weight will improve their ability to pass a more conservative bill. Personally I'm not so sure...I just don't see how the hardcore conservatives which I empathize with get to 60 votes. I'm loving the fight though...ideological bloodletting is what politics is all about.
NBC is now counting 26 and Breitbart claims many more. Right now Ryan just wants it to get out the House so he can blame the Senate for failure (zero chance over there). But my guess is that after the whip count on Thursday, he pulls the bill to avoid the embarrassment to both he and the POTUS.
It sounds like the bill is going to fail because it doesn't screw over enough people.
Seriously.
In some respects you are not wrong. What is crazier is that it is mainly the Tea Party republicans that are voting to maintain Obamacare!
Not so crazy. Those people drifted into office riding the soup du jour. When the winds shift the other direction, they know enough to follow the sails. These people are not leaders, visionaries, or anything of the sense. They're little more than a barometer.
They don't want to maintain Obamacare. Their beef with this bill is that it is too much like Obamacare. Obamacare Lite. I assume they will torpedo this bill until they get their way -- a health care bill on the table that involves zero government involvement whatsoever. Free market!
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It is even stated in the article. What you just posted is a fake news hysteria.
The Reuters review of investors from Russia in Trump’s Florida condominium buildings found no suggestion of wrongdoing by President Trump or his real estate organization. And none of the buyers appear to be from Putin’s inner circle.
Maybe they're from Putin's inner, inner circle?
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Don't you get tired of carrying that water? You sound tired.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/21/exclusive-rand-paul-easily-35-no-votes-paul-ryans-obamacare-2-0-predict-pull-bill-start/
Also...for some reason rasmussen has Trump at 50 today
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_mar21
Disaster!
Uhmm ok ..
Ivanka Trump is working out of a West Wing office and will get access to classified information, though she is not technically serving as a government employee, according to an attorney for the first daughter. The first daughter will not have an official title, but will get a West Wing office, government-issued communications devices and security clearance to access classified information. Gorelick said Ivanka Trump would follow the ethics rules that apply to government employees. "Our view is that the conservative approach is for Ivanka to voluntarily comply with the rules that would apply if she were a government employee, even though she is not," A person with knowledge of Ivanka Trump's thinking can offer more independent perspective to her father by not serving as a White House staffer.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/first-daughter-ivanka-trump-gets-west-wing-office/ar-BByuqHl?ocid=spartanntp
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