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Yeah, it could definitely get bad for some states. But at least you have a little more power and influence over local and state matters, and should hold your elected state officials accountable to the will of the electorate. Trump can sign EOs all day long requiring or requesting help from local law enforcement, but they won't mean a thing if local law enforcement refuse to comply. Seattle PD isn't interested in anything Trump is doing with the immigration raids (we're a sanctuary city). That will have to be done with federal law enforcement, because local PD doesn't care about immigration status and won't be carrying water for the feds. Same thing with weed. No way local law enforcement will get involved in weed busts at this point. It will have to be federal. And if the feds come into our state with a show of force, it will be a pretty interesting test.Tiki said:As far as US weed is concerned I feel that law enforcement down here may change it's tact...obvious racist and weed opponent Jeffy Sessions as AG, DJT signing EOs giving even more power to already over empowered cops is pretty bad and super difficult to do anything about, without being labeled anti-cop or anti-USA. these are two labels no one needs in a Fascist state.
DJT believes in States rights, except when he doesn't.
It's a shame Obama dropped the ball on this one. With the swipe of a pen he could have rescheduled or delisted weed. But he was too chickenshit (and perhaps too beholden to big pharma). So I'll add his name to my list of people who can fuck off on this issue."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
My fictitious affliction happened to go away shortly (~30 seconds) after my diagnosis. Amazing!mrussel1 said:
Geez.. well I hope you are feeling better. Sorry about your affliction.benjs said:
It's not fully legal, and may as well be. We have one chain of dispensaries which ask for valid government-issued ID to get in (Cannabis Culture), others require a "consultation" with a "physician". The consultation at one of the places I went to was laughable - I was put in a room with a "doctor" over Skype, told him I had trouble sleeping, and he said that he's sent my approval to the front desk and that I could go in. No one gives you a hard time with a pen or a joint on the street, either.mrussel1 said:
It's fully legal in Toronto? I had no idea...benjs said:
Cannabis Culture's new premium products are fantastic, by the way. Try the Mango Dream (it's a sativa) - it's out of this world!BS44325 said:
Back open. Bring on the whacky weed!benjs said:
BS, I reckon I could give you a run for your money on the bolded department! Being in the same city, we'll have to give it a go some timeBS44325 said:
I will take being "tricky" as a compliment but I need to clarify a few things before answering the questions. First...you would absolutely love having a whisky with me...i know from your posts across the forum that you are deep into the band and I think you would find the same about me. Second...about "trying the liberal whacky weed"...I have probably smoked more of that shit then anybody on here but let there be no doubt that my answers don't change when I'm high...they in fact get far more convincing. Now in terms of your questions I am actually in agreement with you...I'm troubled by all of it. Can you believe it? I know...crazy. The difference is I recognize that the type of person you elected came with a whole set of problems that your country has never seen before. Maybe the people who voted for him understood this and maybe they didn't? Maybe people appreciated the secret service ramifications/costs and maybe they didn't? The man has properties, a huge family that travels globally, and this creates tremendous security costs no doubt about it. I also don't like that he profits from these security costs but I am not at the point "yet" where I am outraged by it or whether I think it is necessary to stop going to Mar A Lago altogether. Irrespective of all of this it still doesn't change my opinion or probably the opinion of his voters that he was/is still necessary for the times warts and all.my2hands said:BS... youre a tricky one so I would like to ask some direct questions... we may disagree, but at least your a conservative on here that can actually articulate your positions. I wouldn't mind having a whiskey or two with you and just talking things out. and who knows, maybe I could get you to try the liberal whacky weed while we were at it so I can get the real answers lol
what are your thoughts on the President going to Mar-A-Lago so frequently this early?
what are your thoughts on tax payers funding these trips which in turn Trump profits from? such as hosting the PM of Japan? any issue with the Trump profit piece of this issue?
what are your thoughts on the President visiting his 2 Florida golf courses 6 times and playing 7 rounds so far in his first month?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/02/20/the-real-division-in-american-life-isnt-about-trump/
The status quo is no longer acceptable and people are demanding results. He will be judged on results. If nothing changes then issues like golf and trips deserve to weigh him down. If on the flip side things do improve (which many of you even refuse to admit is possible) then all the golf in the world won't matter.
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haha!benjs said:
My fictitious affliction happened to go away shortly (~30 seconds) after my diagnosis. Amazing!mrussel1 said:
Geez.. well I hope you are feeling better. Sorry about your affliction.benjs said:
It's not fully legal, and may as well be. We have one chain of dispensaries which ask for valid government-issued ID to get in (Cannabis Culture), others require a "consultation" with a "physician". The consultation at one of the places I went to was laughable - I was put in a room with a "doctor" over Skype, told him I had trouble sleeping, and he said that he's sent my approval to the front desk and that I could go in. No one gives you a hard time with a pen or a joint on the street, either.mrussel1 said:
It's fully legal in Toronto? I had no idea...benjs said:
Cannabis Culture's new premium products are fantastic, by the way. Try the Mango Dream (it's a sativa) - it's out of this world!BS44325 said:
Back open. Bring on the whacky weed!benjs said:
BS, I reckon I could give you a run for your money on the bolded department! Being in the same city, we'll have to give it a go some timeBS44325 said:
I will take being "tricky" as a compliment but I need to clarify a few things before answering the questions. First...you would absolutely love having a whisky with me...i know from your posts across the forum that you are deep into the band and I think you would find the same about me. Second...about "trying the liberal whacky weed"...I have probably smoked more of that shit then anybody on here but let there be no doubt that my answers don't change when I'm high...they in fact get far more convincing. Now in terms of your questions I am actually in agreement with you...I'm troubled by all of it. Can you believe it? I know...crazy. The difference is I recognize that the type of person you elected came with a whole set of problems that your country has never seen before. Maybe the people who voted for him understood this and maybe they didn't? Maybe people appreciated the secret service ramifications/costs and maybe they didn't? The man has properties, a huge family that travels globally, and this creates tremendous security costs no doubt about it. I also don't like that he profits from these security costs but I am not at the point "yet" where I am outraged by it or whether I think it is necessary to stop going to Mar A Lago altogether. Irrespective of all of this it still doesn't change my opinion or probably the opinion of his voters that he was/is still necessary for the times warts and all.my2hands said:BS... youre a tricky one so I would like to ask some direct questions... we may disagree, but at least your a conservative on here that can actually articulate your positions. I wouldn't mind having a whiskey or two with you and just talking things out. and who knows, maybe I could get you to try the liberal whacky weed while we were at it so I can get the real answers lol
what are your thoughts on the President going to Mar-A-Lago so frequently this early?
what are your thoughts on tax payers funding these trips which in turn Trump profits from? such as hosting the PM of Japan? any issue with the Trump profit piece of this issue?
what are your thoughts on the President visiting his 2 Florida golf courses 6 times and playing 7 rounds so far in his first month?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/02/20/the-real-division-in-american-life-isnt-about-trump/
The status quo is no longer acceptable and people are demanding results. He will be judged on results. If nothing changes then issues like golf and trips deserve to weigh him down. If on the flip side things do improve (which many of you even refuse to admit is possible) then all the golf in the world won't matter.I LOVE MUSIC.
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Agreed..jeffbr said:
Yeah, it could definitely get bad for some states. But at least you have a little more power and influence over local and state matters, and should hold your elected state officials accountable to the will of the electorate. Trump can sign EOs all day long requiring or requesting help from local law enforcement, but they won't mean a thing if local law enforcement refuse to comply. Seattle PD isn't interested in anything Trump is doing with the immigration raids (we're a sanctuary city). That will have to be done with federal law enforcement, because local PD doesn't care about immigration status and won't be carrying water for the feds. Same thing with weed. No way local law enforcement will get involved in weed busts at this point. It will have to be federal. And if the feds come into our state with a show of force, it will be a pretty interesting test.Tiki said:As far as US weed is concerned I feel that law enforcement down here may change it's tact...obvious racist and weed opponent Jeffy Sessions as AG, DJT signing EOs giving even more power to already over empowered cops is pretty bad and super difficult to do anything about, without being labeled anti-cop or anti-USA. these are two labels no one needs in a Fascist state.
DJT believes in States rights, except when he doesn't.
It's a shame Obama dropped the ball on this one. With the swipe of a pen he could have rescheduled or delisted weed. But he was too chickenshit (and perhaps too beholden to big pharma). So I'll add his name to my list of people who can fuck off on this issue.
Although we learned yesterday that Trump is a big advocate of states rights (ala bathroom issues) so you guys should be fine. If Trump is anything, he is intellectually consistent... (ha!).0 -
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I attribute that to the miraculous curative powers of cannabis! You've been healed! I would prescribe continued regular usage to ensure that your affliction doesn't return.benjs said:
My fictitious affliction happened to go away shortly (~30 seconds) after my diagnosis. Amazing!mrussel1 said:
Geez.. well I hope you are feeling better. Sorry about your affliction.benjs said:
It's not fully legal, and may as well be. We have one chain of dispensaries which ask for valid government-issued ID to get in (Cannabis Culture), others require a "consultation" with a "physician". The consultation at one of the places I went to was laughable - I was put in a room with a "doctor" over Skype, told him I had trouble sleeping, and he said that he's sent my approval to the front desk and that I could go in. No one gives you a hard time with a pen or a joint on the street, either.mrussel1 said:
It's fully legal in Toronto? I had no idea...benjs said:
Cannabis Culture's new premium products are fantastic, by the way. Try the Mango Dream (it's a sativa) - it's out of this world!BS44325 said:
Back open. Bring on the whacky weed!benjs said:
BS, I reckon I could give you a run for your money on the bolded department! Being in the same city, we'll have to give it a go some timeBS44325 said:
I will take being "tricky" as a compliment but I need to clarify a few things before answering the questions. First...you would absolutely love having a whisky with me...i know from your posts across the forum that you are deep into the band and I think you would find the same about me. Second...about "trying the liberal whacky weed"...I have probably smoked more of that shit then anybody on here but let there be no doubt that my answers don't change when I'm high...they in fact get far more convincing. Now in terms of your questions I am actually in agreement with you...I'm troubled by all of it. Can you believe it? I know...crazy. The difference is I recognize that the type of person you elected came with a whole set of problems that your country has never seen before. Maybe the people who voted for him understood this and maybe they didn't? Maybe people appreciated the secret service ramifications/costs and maybe they didn't? The man has properties, a huge family that travels globally, and this creates tremendous security costs no doubt about it. I also don't like that he profits from these security costs but I am not at the point "yet" where I am outraged by it or whether I think it is necessary to stop going to Mar A Lago altogether. Irrespective of all of this it still doesn't change my opinion or probably the opinion of his voters that he was/is still necessary for the times warts and all.my2hands said:BS... youre a tricky one so I would like to ask some direct questions... we may disagree, but at least your a conservative on here that can actually articulate your positions. I wouldn't mind having a whiskey or two with you and just talking things out. and who knows, maybe I could get you to try the liberal whacky weed while we were at it so I can get the real answers lol
what are your thoughts on the President going to Mar-A-Lago so frequently this early?
what are your thoughts on tax payers funding these trips which in turn Trump profits from? such as hosting the PM of Japan? any issue with the Trump profit piece of this issue?
what are your thoughts on the President visiting his 2 Florida golf courses 6 times and playing 7 rounds so far in his first month?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/02/20/the-real-division-in-american-life-isnt-about-trump/
The status quo is no longer acceptable and people are demanding results. He will be judged on results. If nothing changes then issues like golf and trips deserve to weigh him down. If on the flip side things do improve (which many of you even refuse to admit is possible) then all the golf in the world won't matter."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
i'm jealous of you legalized fucks... but at least i'm decriminalized here... baby steps 0
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I've been doing my best as a preventative measurejeffbr said:
I attribute that to the miraculous curative powers of cannabis! You've been healed! I would prescribe continued regular usage to ensure that your affliction doesn't return.benjs said:
My fictitious affliction happened to go away shortly (~30 seconds) after my diagnosis. Amazing!mrussel1 said:
Geez.. well I hope you are feeling better. Sorry about your affliction.benjs said:
It's not fully legal, and may as well be. We have one chain of dispensaries which ask for valid government-issued ID to get in (Cannabis Culture), others require a "consultation" with a "physician". The consultation at one of the places I went to was laughable - I was put in a room with a "doctor" over Skype, told him I had trouble sleeping, and he said that he's sent my approval to the front desk and that I could go in. No one gives you a hard time with a pen or a joint on the street, either.mrussel1 said:
It's fully legal in Toronto? I had no idea...benjs said:
Cannabis Culture's new premium products are fantastic, by the way. Try the Mango Dream (it's a sativa) - it's out of this world!BS44325 said:
Back open. Bring on the whacky weed!benjs said:
BS, I reckon I could give you a run for your money on the bolded department! Being in the same city, we'll have to give it a go some timeBS44325 said:
I will take being "tricky" as a compliment but I need to clarify a few things before answering the questions. First...you would absolutely love having a whisky with me...i know from your posts across the forum that you are deep into the band and I think you would find the same about me. Second...about "trying the liberal whacky weed"...I have probably smoked more of that shit then anybody on here but let there be no doubt that my answers don't change when I'm high...they in fact get far more convincing. Now in terms of your questions I am actually in agreement with you...I'm troubled by all of it. Can you believe it? I know...crazy. The difference is I recognize that the type of person you elected came with a whole set of problems that your country has never seen before. Maybe the people who voted for him understood this and maybe they didn't? Maybe people appreciated the secret service ramifications/costs and maybe they didn't? The man has properties, a huge family that travels globally, and this creates tremendous security costs no doubt about it. I also don't like that he profits from these security costs but I am not at the point "yet" where I am outraged by it or whether I think it is necessary to stop going to Mar A Lago altogether. Irrespective of all of this it still doesn't change my opinion or probably the opinion of his voters that he was/is still necessary for the times warts and all.my2hands said:BS... youre a tricky one so I would like to ask some direct questions... we may disagree, but at least your a conservative on here that can actually articulate your positions. I wouldn't mind having a whiskey or two with you and just talking things out. and who knows, maybe I could get you to try the liberal whacky weed while we were at it so I can get the real answers lol
what are your thoughts on the President going to Mar-A-Lago so frequently this early?
what are your thoughts on tax payers funding these trips which in turn Trump profits from? such as hosting the PM of Japan? any issue with the Trump profit piece of this issue?
what are your thoughts on the President visiting his 2 Florida golf courses 6 times and playing 7 rounds so far in his first month?
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2017/02/20/the-real-division-in-american-life-isnt-about-trump/
The status quo is no longer acceptable and people are demanding results. He will be judged on results. If nothing changes then issues like golf and trips deserve to weigh him down. If on the flip side things do improve (which many of you even refuse to admit is possible) then all the golf in the world won't matter. '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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While MA is dragging its ass on getting dispensaries up & running, recreational is at least legal here in the Commonwealth since November. Like Washington, I think MA will continue to be one of the states at odds w/ this administration, so I hope the local laws hold.jeffbr said:
Bring it on. I'm sure my state, Washington, is already on Trump's radar anyway. Our governor has already told Trump to fuck off in general, and said he'd be working in opposition. Our attorney general was the one who brought the initial lawsuit against the immigration ban, and the ban was initially overturned in a federal court in this state. So if Trump wants to start a states' rights war with us, we're ready to party. Fuck Trump and fuck Sessions.Tiki said:With this administration I hesitate to even bring the legal US weed up...
I wouldn’t think this admin would go after something so innocuous as legalized weed; but at the same time, I agree w/ Tiki, I don’t trust this f’er, not for one second.
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its a beautiful 70 degrees and sunny here... i'm headed home in a few... going to open up all the windows for a nice breeze... put on some tunes... and get so stoned I forget Donald Trump is my president lol0
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my2hands said:
its a beautiful 70 degrees and sunny here... i'm headed home in a few... going to open up all the windows for a nice breeze... put on some tunes... and get so stoned I forget Donald Trump is my president lol
Sounds like a good plan! "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
I don't trust him either. And just as I was tooting my governor's horn, Jay Inslee just issued an executive order of his own "that expressly prohibits state agencies from inquiring about a person's immigration status, participating in federal immigration raids, or aiding in the creation of a religious registry." He said: state agencies would not participate in federal civil immigration raids that President Trump has now characterized as a "military operation."Merkin Baller said:
While MA is dragging its ass on getting dispensaries up & running, recreational is at least legal here in the Commonwealth since November. Like Washington, I think MA will continue to be one of the states at odds w/ this administration, so I hope the local laws hold.jeffbr said:
Bring it on. I'm sure my state, Washington, is already on Trump's radar anyway. Our governor has already told Trump to fuck off in general, and said he'd be working in opposition. Our attorney general was the one who brought the initial lawsuit against the immigration ban, and the ban was initially overturned in a federal court in this state. So if Trump wants to start a states' rights war with us, we're ready to party. Fuck Trump and fuck Sessions.Tiki said:With this administration I hesitate to even bring the legal US weed up...
I wouldn’t think this admin would go after something so innocuous as legalized weed; but at the same time, I agree w/ Tiki, I don’t trust this f’er, not for one second."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
Here in Oregon our Gov issued a similar EO.0
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I'm not sure it's so innocuous when there's an imbalance in the number of white arrests versus black arrests, and effectively parity in black versus white use of marijuana (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/?utm_term=.dd73626b963b). Having recently watched Ava DuVernay's documentary, 13th, which ties together the War on Drugs, racism, and mass incarceration for free or cheap labour, I can't help but think that even the criminalization of marijuana can be quite nefarious and impactful.Merkin Baller said:
While MA is dragging its ass on getting dispensaries up & running, recreational is at least legal here in the Commonwealth since November. Like Washington, I think MA will continue to be one of the states at odds w/ this administration, so I hope the local laws hold.jeffbr said:
Bring it on. I'm sure my state, Washington, is already on Trump's radar anyway. Our governor has already told Trump to fuck off in general, and said he'd be working in opposition. Our attorney general was the one who brought the initial lawsuit against the immigration ban, and the ban was initially overturned in a federal court in this state. So if Trump wants to start a states' rights war with us, we're ready to party. Fuck Trump and fuck Sessions.Tiki said:With this administration I hesitate to even bring the legal US weed up...
I wouldn’t think this admin would go after something so innocuous as legalized weed; but at the same time, I agree w/ Tiki, I don’t trust this f’er, not for one second.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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I'll be doing the same later !my2hands said:its a beautiful 70 degrees and sunny here... i'm headed home in a few... going to open up all the windows for a nice breeze... put on some tunes... and get so stoned I forget Donald Trump is my president lol
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No matter where we live, some rituals transcend bordersjosevolution said:
I'll be doing the same later !my2hands said:its a beautiful 70 degrees and sunny here... i'm headed home in a few... going to open up all the windows for a nice breeze... put on some tunes... and get so stoned I forget Donald Trump is my president lol
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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I meant the 'drug' itself is innocuous (as compared to alcohol, or other forms of medication, self or otherwise) and shouldn't be illegal. The war on drugs as a whole has been a disaster on many levels (your points very much included), I think you & I are very much on the same page there.benjs said:
I'm not sure it's so innocuous when there's an imbalance in the number of white arrests versus black arrests, and effectively parity in black versus white use of marijuana (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/?utm_term=.dd73626b963b). Having recently watched Ava DuVernay's documentary, 13th, which ties together the War on Drugs, racism, and mass incarceration for free or cheap labour, I can't help but think that even the criminalization of marijuana can be quite nefarious and impactful.Merkin Baller said:
While MA is dragging its ass on getting dispensaries up & running, recreational is at least legal here in the Commonwealth since November. Like Washington, I think MA will continue to be one of the states at odds w/ this administration, so I hope the local laws hold.jeffbr said:
Bring it on. I'm sure my state, Washington, is already on Trump's radar anyway. Our governor has already told Trump to fuck off in general, and said he'd be working in opposition. Our attorney general was the one who brought the initial lawsuit against the immigration ban, and the ban was initially overturned in a federal court in this state. So if Trump wants to start a states' rights war with us, we're ready to party. Fuck Trump and fuck Sessions.Tiki said:With this administration I hesitate to even bring the legal US weed up...
I wouldn’t think this admin would go after something so innocuous as legalized weed; but at the same time, I agree w/ Tiki, I don’t trust this f’er, not for one second.
+1, I have a feeling my b-day show from last year (Philly, 4/28) will be the playlist for this afternoon's ride home.josevolution said:
I'll be doing the same later !my2hands said:its a beautiful 70 degrees and sunny here... i'm headed home in a few... going to open up all the windows for a nice breeze... put on some tunes... and get so stoned I forget Donald Trump is my president lol
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Spoke too f'ing soon
F this administration....... they're trying to set this country back decades.
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hahahahahaMerkin Baller said:Spoke too f'ing soon
F this administration....... they're trying to set this country back decades.
Priceless.
Sorry, but from the confines of Canada... this is so damn amusing."My brain's a good brain!"0
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