Preference question?

Noload

Curious, without insulting any band member, do you prefer the pace of the songs, at a show, more consistant with the album version (which is typically slower ) or the live versions which have progressively gotten faster through the years?  I know its tough but an overall either or "faster" or "slower " answer would be much appreciated.   Since i started it, I will poison the well saying i love the live versions closer to the original pace.  Just revisited the version of Animal from MTV awards..awesome!

jeffbr

Slower. Not sure why things got so sped up, but it takes a lot of the groove away.

mcgruff10

I want to hear a slowed down version of evenflow just once!! Having said that I think it depends on the song: given to fly sounds better sped up. Evenflow sounds much better slowed down.

on2legs

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

mcgruff10

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

Zod

I'm neutral. It's not something that's really bothered me or enhanced/detracted from my enjoyment of the song. I guess tempo is something my brain doesn't really care about. I love given to fly from l02l and I love hearing given to fly at recent shows.

on2legs

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys and I can hear a little difference listening side by side to different versions. But I can't pick up any noticeable difference just listening through the course of a concert. It would have never occurred to me things are sped up now if people didn't mention it. I just don't have the ear for it.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Slower

ledvedderman

on2legs said:

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys and I can hear a little difference listening side by side to different versions. But I can't pick up any noticeable difference just listening through the course of a concert. It would have never occurred to me things are sped up now if people didn't mention it. I just don't have the ear for it.

You should check out the version of Lukin from a couple of years ago. They slowed it down a tad and you might pick up on it.

I'm a sarcastic asshole. I'm like you though, I never really picked up on tempo changes but when they were pointed out- it was crystal clear.

Noload

You people are terrible at following directions but i love debate

on2legs

ledvedderman said:

on2legs said:

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys and I can hear a little difference listening side by side to different versions. But I can't pick up any noticeable difference just listening through the course of a concert. It would have never occurred to me things are sped up now if people didn't mention it. I just don't have the ear for it.

You should check out the version of Lukin from a couple of years ago. They slowed it down a tad and you might pick up on it.

I'm a sarcastic asshole. I'm like you though, I never really picked up on tempo changes but when they were pointed out- it was crystal clear.

I was at MSG for the slow Lukin. Definitely picked up on that one

Noload

on2legs said:

ledvedderman said:

on2legs said:

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys and I can hear a little difference listening side by side to different versions. But I can't pick up any noticeable difference just listening through the course of a concert. It would have never occurred to me things are sped up now if people didn't mention it. I just don't have the ear for it.

You should check out the version of Lukin from a couple of years ago. They slowed it down a tad and you might pick up on it.

I'm a sarcastic asshole. I'm like you though, I never really picked up on tempo changes but when they were pointed out- it was crystal clear.

I was at MSG for the slow Lukin. Definitely picked up on that one

That one may not count..that was different version if i remember right.

ledvedderman

He was definitely giving a sarcastic response to my sarcastic comment about slow Lukin.

Jbarker

I love the slower versions (pre-2000), but if we get longer improvs with the sped up versions I'll take it.
eg. Forum 98 Corduroy (slow, 5 min) is majestic but so was FenwayII 2016 Corduroy (fast, 6 min).
I'll rest on the fence for now.

mcgruff10

ledvedderman said:

on2legs said:

mcgruff10 said:

on2legs said:

I would be a terrible musician. I couldn't tell one version from another in terms of the pace.

Yes you could. Listen to given to fly on live on two legs then the same song on any boot post 2010. Same thing with evenflow, anything 1992 then something from 2016.

I'm not disagreeing with you guys and I can hear a little difference listening side by side to different versions. But I can't pick up any noticeable difference just listening through the course of a concert. It would have never occurred to me things are sped up now if people didn't mention it. I just don't have the ear for it.

You should check out the version of Lukin from a couple of years ago. They slowed it down a tad and you might pick up on it.

I'm a sarcastic asshole. I'm like you though, I never really picked up on tempo changes but when they were pointed out- it was crystal clear.

Dude that was funny as hell!! Nice work.

tbergs

Impossible to pick a side. I agree with the above, depends on the song. If I picked solely based on the energy generated, I'd say faster, but I think we've lost some quality on really fast songs because Ed can't transition tones as easily as he once could.

PJfanwillneverleave1

Noload said:

You people are terrible at following directions but i love debate

Well you started a thread asking for responses to be "Faster" or "Slower but went on to explain your choice.

Slower

lotsalemon

Slower.

For some reason, when playing live, it gets really easy to speed songs up. I notice it at band practice, and it drives me insane!

Noload

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Noload said:

You people are terrible at following directions but i love debate

Well you started a thread asking for responses to be "Faster" or "Slower but went on to explain your choice.

Slower

Yes..thats my crazy rules..i get to explain u don' t;)

ledvedderman

Noload said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Noload said:

You people are terrible at following directions but i love debate

Well you started a thread asking for responses to be "Faster" or "Slower but went on to explain your choice.

Slower

Yes..thats my crazy rules..i get to explain u don' t;)

Since he's the biggest Trump supporter on the board, he totally understands your logic there.

Noload

ledvedderman said:

Noload said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Noload said:

You people are terrible at following directions but i love debate

Well you started a thread asking for responses to be "Faster" or "Slower but went on to explain your choice.

Slower

Yes..thats my crazy rules..i get to explain u don' t;)

Since he's the biggest Trump supporter on the board, he totally understands your logic there.

Oh no, Trump got into my post..maybe he is the Wizard! All hail!

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Trump is everywhere.

hedonist

Ribbed?


Personally, I could see some songs taking on a different tempo, but I've always loved Live on Two Legs, how those were done in tune with the album versions.

That was their third album I bought, just a few months after discovering this band.

*edit - one of the best things I ever did

Wma31394

Faster

joseph33

mcgruff10 said:

I want to hear a slowed down version of evenflow just once!! Having said that I think it depends on the song: given to fly sounds better sped up. Evenflow sounds much better slowed down.

Yup,as would I.

buck502000

Drumming is everything

joseph33

My ear is always keen to hearing bass.It just always stands out in no matter what I hear.

fl4tdriven

buck502000 said:

Drumming is everything

This.

From a drummers perspective, it's kind of like a progression type thing. You play the songs so many times, getting more comfortable each time, making it easier to speed things up eventually.

I doubt the band minds. It's keeps the energy high on the faster-paced songs, and the songs that were intended to be slow seem to stay slow.

tschav

Faster, assuming that means we get an extra song or two crammed into the evening's setlist.

PJ_Soul

Slower, for the most part. Sometimes it makes sense to speed it up, at least sometimes for variety, kind of like improvising, but I don't get why they speed up SO MANY songs on a regular basis. I would definitely much prefer fewer songs played right on the setlist than more songs played too fast. Speeding everything up kind of harshes the groove at times.

mcgruff10

What songs are sped up?
evenflow, given to fly, animal, dte I think....what else?