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It's prolly already been said but......has anyone else noticed the soundboard TOTD songs from pj20 they have been playing on SiriusXM channel? I've never heard them till recently. Wish they'd release the whole show
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,533
    PJ20 will be Pearl Jam's 20th Vault release.
    I guarantee it!
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Pj20 sucked
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,180
    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Show or doc?

    The OP talks about the show...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • LukinFanLukinFan Posts: 29,040
    demetrios said:

    PJ20 will be Pearl Jam's 20th Vault release.
    I guarantee it!

    that would be pretty cool
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,535
    vedderfan02 said:

    It's prolly already been said but......has anyone else noticed the soundboard TOTD songs from pj20 they have been playing on SiriusXM channel? I've never heard them till recently. Wish they'd release the whole show

    The ToTD cd boxset contains dvd & bluray. The bluray was advertised as only having the audio but it actually has a bunch of the videos from the dvd in HD. It was pretty cool watching the ToTD songs from pj20. I wasn't there but it would be cool to see the rest of it.
  • smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,563
    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
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  • TroubledSoulTroubledSoul Posts: 1,366
    smithnic said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
    arms aloft.

    Yeh I've seen Pearl Jam, too. But I can't remember the dates.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,180
    TroubledSoul said:

    smithnic said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
    arms aloft.

    Second song on the Jazz fest bootleg. Works great :)

    Be glad you didn't get Public Image.
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,412
    Um.....
    PJ20 was fucking great.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    mfc2006 said:

    Um.....
    PJ20 was fucking great.

    Only problems were the weather on Saturday, the line for the exhibit, and my hangover sunday
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  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric MayhDr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    TroubledSoul said:

    smithnic said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
    arms aloft.

    One of my favorite songs of the weekend.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    TroubledSoul said:

    smithnic said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
    arms aloft.

    Second song on the Jazz fest bootleg. Works great :)

    Be glad you didn't get Public Image.
    We got it Sunday and it was awesome as well.
    looking to hear of the earth
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,825
    TroubledSoul said:

    smithnic said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Yeah two straight days of Pearl Jam with a lot of their friends was terrible? Why did it suck?
    arms aloft.

    That was the only bad part of the whole weekend....that place was ready to explode after Release. Should have played Corduroy 2nd!
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,430
    edited January 2017
    What's the deal with Arms Aloft? Why does everyone seem to hate it? Was just the PJ20 performance of it bad or do people really hate that song?
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,825
    HesCalledDyer said:

    What's the deal with Arms Aloft? Why does everyone seem to hate it? Was just the PJ20 performance of it bad or do people really hate that song?

    It's an OK song I guess...it was just a weird spot for them to play it at PJ20. They opened with one of the best versions of Release ever with the entire crowd signing along and then went into Arms Aloft and it was kinda a bummer. Killed the crowd a bit.
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,853
    Indifference71 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    What's the deal with Arms Aloft? Why does everyone seem to hate it? Was just the PJ20 performance of it bad or do people really hate that song?

    It's an OK song I guess...it was just a weird spot for them to play it at PJ20. They opened with one of the best versions of Release ever with the entire crowd signing along and then went into Arms Aloft and it was kinda a bummer. Killed the crowd a bit.
    Yeah PJ20 was awesome but that was the all-time worst setlist move. That spot needed something like Animal or Last Exit. I don't know what they were thinking.
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  • rbrum7rbrum7 Posts: 981
    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Indifference71 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    What's the deal with Arms Aloft? Why does everyone seem to hate it? Was just the PJ20 performance of it bad or do people really hate that song?

    It's an OK song I guess...it was just a weird spot for them to play it at PJ20. They opened with one of the best versions of Release ever with the entire crowd signing along and then went into Arms Aloft and it was kinda a bummer. Killed the crowd a bit.
    Yeah PJ20 was awesome but that was the all-time worst setlist move. That spot needed something like Animal or Last Exit. I don't know what they were thinking.
    I agree that Arms Aloft sucks, but the reason they played it at PJ20 was because Strummer wrote the song about the festival scene in Europe. PJ20 was their attempt at a festival, so there was a connection.

    They also played it at Bonnaroo this year and talked about how it was written about the festival scene.

    I also agree it was a horrible choice to play it 2nd on the set list at PJ20 though.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,430
    Gotcha, so Release followed by Arms Aloft is the problem, not necessarily the song itself. I can understand that, quite a lofty transition.
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  • danlee1095danlee1095 Posts: 1,194
    I was also pretty shocked to hear Arms Aloft directly after a really, really powerful Release. And I love Joe Strummer. Overall, loved that weekend. Rain on Sat was a bummer but still a legendary weekend. I also happen to love The Strokes and would seem them every time they play.
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  • Chasing FootstepsChasing Footsteps Posts: 315
    But saying that "PJ20 sucked" due to the setlist placement of Arms Aloft is a stretch.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,430
    Chasing Footsteps said:

    But saying that "PJ20 sucked" due to the setlist placement of Arms Aloft is a stretch.

    Haha, yeah I can understand not liking one song's placement in the setlist. But to say the whole weekend sucked because of that? Man, some folks have the bar set wayyyyyy too high.
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,054
    I love Arms Aloft but I have witnessed it sucking the energy out of the room because it's not Corduroy.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,403
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Gotcha, so Release followed by Arms Aloft is the problem, not necessarily the song itself. I can understand that, quite a lofty transition.

    It s like going release directly into sweet lew.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mcgruff10 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Gotcha, so Release followed by Arms Aloft is the problem, not necessarily the song itself. I can understand that, quite a lofty transition.

    It s like going release directly into sweet lew.
    That's a tough one to swallow lol

    And I actually like Sweet Lew
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,403
    my2hands said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    Gotcha, so Release followed by Arms Aloft is the problem, not necessarily the song itself. I can understand that, quite a lofty transition.

    It s like going release directly into sweet lew.
    That's a tough one to swallow lol

    And I actually like Sweet Lew
    oh man that one was pretty bad at msg.
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  • stevedsteved Posts: 657
    I agree Arms Aloft was not a good choice following Release... But judging a show by one bad choice even if it is a major one in someone's opinion, is a little harsh..

    I personally thought both nights sets were not really exceptional compared to other shows.. Especially if you look at the 2016 sets (Columbia, SC, MSG, Toronto 2, Fenway 2 , Wrigley, etc...or the album shows! ) but then they played Temple to celebrate, which up until that point had only been done 1-2 songs at a time in 20 years, not 4-5 songs each night! Depending on your love of that music that made the Setlist skyrocket to a different category.. Either top of the list for some, or stayed the same... For me it was mind blowing!!

    Then you have the whole communal, festival, family of fans that traveled from all over the globe to celebrate and share stories and experiences.. If you took part in that it was different then someone who showed up at 8pm watched a concert and left at midnight. Someone who Spoke to no one other than their ticket buddy and went home.. Two completely different experiences!

    PJ20 was not just a SETLIST... It was different... Saying PJ20 sucked do to a song placement in the setlist, is to me not really fully understanding the scope of the experience that was that weekend..
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  • Mike's SideMike's Side Posts: 954
    steved said:

    I agree Arms Aloft was not a good choice following Release... But judging a show by one bad choice even if it is a major one in someone's opinion, is a little harsh..

    I personally thought both nights sets were not really exceptional compared to other shows.. Especially if you look at the 2016 sets (Columbia, SC, MSG, Toronto 2, Fenway 2 , Wrigley, etc...or the album shows! ) but then they played Temple to celebrate, which up until that point had only been done 1-2 songs at a time in 20 years, not 4-5 songs each night! Depending on your love of that music that made the Setlist skyrocket to a different category.. Either top of the list for some, or stayed the same... For me it was mind blowing!!

    Then you have the whole communal, festival, family of fans that traveled from all over the globe to celebrate and share stories and experiences.. If you took part in that it was different then someone who showed up at 8pm watched a concert and left at midnight. Someone who Spoke to no one other than their ticket buddy and went home.. Two completely different experiences!

    PJ20 was not just a SETLIST... It was different... Saying PJ20 sucked do to a song placement in the setlist, is to me not really fully understanding the scope of the experience that was that weekend..

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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Dr. Delight said:

    Pj20 sucked

    Show or doc?

    The OP talks about the show...
    Doc...my bad.
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    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
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  • PJ-CubsPJ-Cubs Posts: 3,316
    steved said:

    I agree Arms Aloft was not a good choice following Release... But judging a show by one bad choice even if it is a major one in someone's opinion, is a little harsh..

    I personally thought both nights sets were not really exceptional compared to other shows.. Especially if you look at the 2016 sets (Columbia, SC, MSG, Toronto 2, Fenway 2 , Wrigley, etc...or the album shows! ) but then they played Temple to celebrate, which up until that point had only been done 1-2 songs at a time in 20 years, not 4-5 songs each night! Depending on your love of that music that made the Setlist skyrocket to a different category.. Either top of the list for some, or stayed the same... For me it was mind blowing!!

    Then you have the whole communal, festival, family of fans that traveled from all over the globe to celebrate and share stories and experiences.. If you took part in that it was different then someone who showed up at 8pm watched a concert and left at midnight. Someone who Spoke to no one other than their ticket buddy and went home.. Two completely different experiences!

    PJ20 was not just a SETLIST... It was different... Saying PJ20 sucked do to a song placement in the setlist, is to me not really fully understanding the scope of the experience that was that weekend..

    Well said.

    I agree that PJ20 as an experience was great. I met so many great people and had an awesome time.

    To me, the shows were disappointing. Maybe it was all the build-up and hype (and F5ing) but the shows did not live up to expectations. Too many guest appearances, the weird ending to night 1, a little too much TOTD (night 1 was awesome, night 2 was overkill).



  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,845
    Remember the context of pre-2013 setlists. PJ20, Philly 2009, Philly 2005, Boston III, etc... all had insane setlists at the time. In 2013 they started playing 3 hour shows consistently with 35 song setlists with rarities mixed in. What may be a tame setlist now was not in 2011. Night 1 PJ20 was incredible. Loved it.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,549
    mfc2006 said:

    Um.....
    PJ20 was fucking great.

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