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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,588
    edited January 2017
    mickeyrat said:
    https://apnews.com/a349ef57fb6b4b4f82809b3c7b0d4c68
    WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans on Monday voted to eviscerate the Office of Congressional Ethics, the independent body created in 2008 to investigate allegations of misconduct by lawmakers after several bribery and corruption scandals sent members to prison.

    The ethics change, which prompted an outcry from Democrats and government watchdog groups, is part of a rules package that the full House will vote on Tuesday. The package also includes a means for Republican leaders to punish lawmakers if there is a repeat of the Democratic sit-in last summer over gun control.

    Under the ethics change pushed by Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., the non-partisan Office of Congressional Ethics would fall under the control of the House Ethics Committee, which is run by lawmakers. It would be known as the Office of Congressional Complaint Review, and the rule change would require that "any matter that may involve a violation of criminal law must be referred to the Committee on Ethics for potential referral to law enforcement agencies after an affirmative vote by the members," according to Goodlatte's office.

    Lawmakers would have the final say under the change. House Republicans voted 119-74 for the Goodlatte measure despite arguments from Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., against the change. They failed to sway rank-and-file Republicans, some of whom have felt unfairly targeted by the OCE.

    "The amendment builds upon and strengthens the existing Office of Congressional Ethics by maintaining its primary area of focus of accepting and reviewing complaints from the public and referring them, if appropriate, to the Committee on Ethics," Goodlatte said in a statement.

    Democrats, led by Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, reacted angrily.

    "Republicans claim they want to 'drain the swamp,' but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions," the California lawmaker said in a statement. "Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress."

    Chris Carson, president of the League of Women Voters, said Ryan should be ashamed of himself and his leadership team.

    "We all know the so-called House Ethics Committee is worthless for anything other than a whitewash — sweeping corruption under the rug. That's why the independent Office of Congressional Ethics has been so important. The OCE works to stop corruption and that's why Speaker Ryan is cutting its authority. Speaker Ryan is giving a green light to congressional corruption."

    The OCE was created in March 2008 after the cases of former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham, R-Calif., who served more than seven years in prison on bribery and other charges; as well as cases of former Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, who was charged in the Jack Abramoff lobbying scandal and pleaded guilty to corruption charges and former Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., convicted on corruption in a separate case.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    FILL. THE. SWAMP!!!!

    FILL. THE. SWAMP!!!!

    FILL. THE. SWAMP!!!!

    FILL. THE. SWAMP!!!!
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    This is just ridiculous. They get to vote on whether a potential violation of criminal law is actually sent to law enforcement. Yeah, no risk of corruption in that policy. Fill your coffers in case you need to bail yourself out. And people complain about police and military officers handling their own issues in house.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    32 minutes for 2017s first trigger...WOW!
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    Where is this pizza thread you speak of?

    Speaking of "pizza" former OCE chair Porter Goss (CIA DIRECTOR) left the do nothing committee to join Dickstein Shapiro that partners with Denis Haserts lobbying efforts for countries that have a liking for little boys and girls.
    Interesting too, in 2/2016 Mr Goss wrote a nice letter to Judge Durkin on behalf of Hastert.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    Where is this pizza thread you speak of?

    Speaking of "pizza" former OCE chair Porter Goss (CIA DIRECTOR) left the do nothing committee to join Dickstein Shapiro that partners with Denis Haserts lobbying efforts for countries that have a liking for little boys and girls.
    Interesting too, in 2/2016 Mr Goss wrote a nice letter to Judge Durkin on behalf of Hastert.
    You were the one pushing the pizzagate nonsense. You owned it so don't try to walk away from it.

    Aren't there more Podesta emails that you can post about? I'm sure you can tie an email about dry cleaning into a satanic ritual or something.

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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/312430-house-gop-vote-to-rein-in-congressional-ethics-watchdog
    "It should be clear by now that Donald Trump – already the most corrupt and conflicted President-elect in history – is betraying his promise to drain the swamp. Now Republicans in the House are following his example, attempting to cripple the independent entity that deals with ethics in Congress," DNC spokesman Eric Walker said in a statement.
    This article says that Paul Ryan was against the amendment.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    Where is this pizza thread you speak of?

    Speaking of "pizza" former OCE chair Porter Goss (CIA DIRECTOR) left the do nothing committee to join Dickstein Shapiro that partners with Denis Haserts lobbying efforts for countries that have a liking for little boys and girls.
    Interesting too, in 2/2016 Mr Goss wrote a nice letter to Judge Durkin on behalf of Hastert.
    Which countries have a liking for little boys and girls?
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Don't worry, the Empire will continue.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    Where is this pizza thread you speak of?

    Speaking of "pizza" former OCE chair Porter Goss (CIA DIRECTOR) left the do nothing committee to join Dickstein Shapiro that partners with Denis Haserts lobbying efforts for countries that have a liking for little boys and girls.
    Interesting too, in 2/2016 Mr Goss wrote a nice letter to Judge Durkin on behalf of Hastert.
    You were the one pushing the pizzagate nonsense. You owned it so don't try to walk away from it.

    Aren't there more Podesta emails that you can post about? I'm sure you can tie an email about dry cleaning into a satanic ritual or something.

    Where is this pizza thread you refer to?
  • vaggar99vaggar99 Posts: 3,427
    Republicans have never stood for anything but protecting themselves. they embody the definition of cowardice. The fact that so many identify with this party says very little about the quality of humanity.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,168
    This is scary. Yet it's what I expect from a party who didn't vote on a SC nominee.... just because.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Ethics committee chair on child rapist Hastert

    Ahead of Hastert's sentencing scheduled for Wednesday, ex-CIA director Porter Goss, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay and the ex-speaker's wife of 43 years were among those who appealed to Judge Thomas Durkin on behalf of the speaker. Prosecutors have asked that Hastert be sentenced to a maximum of six months in prison, while his defense team is asking for probation.

    Porter Goss, who served as CIA director for part of the George W. Bush administration, said he got to know Hastert when they served together in the House. Goss, who was by Hastert's side during the 9/11 terrorists attacks, recalled in his letter that that the former speaker showed calm and leadership during one of the most difficult moments in American history.

    Goss, in the letter, wrote about Hastert's "steady confidence and quick comprehension" as he ordered the evacuation of the U.S. Capitol.
    "Standing in his office looking down the Mall at the smoke and flame coming from the Pentagon, the Speaker quietly replied to me, 'yes, we'll leave at once, but I am going to open the House Session so the chaplain can say a prayer,'" Goss wrote. "The Record will show that happened even while the hijacked aircraft targeting the Capitol was still in the air."
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The Office of Congressional Ethics (OCE) is an independent, non-partisan entity charged with reviewing allegations of misconduct against Members, officers, and staff of the United States House of Representatives and, when appropriate, referring matters to the House Committee on Ethics. In all but one set of circumstances, the report and findings of the OCE Board must be publicly released. The OCE has a professional staff (hyperlink to staff bios) consisting primarily of attorneys and other professionals with expertise in ethics law and investigations. The mission of the OCE and its Board is to assist the House in upholding high standards of ethical conduct for its Members, officers, and staff and, in so doing, to serve the American people. Governed by an eight-person Board of Directors, Members of the OCE Board are private citizens and cannot serve as members of Congress or work for the federal government.

    Basically a toothless political black male headline grabbing mechanism for guys like Soros and Brock.

    Anyone find any noteworthy ethics investigations recommended by the OCE?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    The author of this article just pointed out that "this story would not have been possible without the Office of Government Ethics."

    The vote to gut this is, among other things, a vote that will enable foreign powers to corrupt American lawmakers.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/10-members-of-congress-took-trip-secretly-funded-by-foreign-government/2015/05/13/76b55332-f720-11e4-9030-b4732caefe81_story.html?postshare=2981483451796828&tid=ss_fb

    10 members of Congress took trip secretly funded by foreign government
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    Where is this pizza thread you speak of?

    Speaking of "pizza" former OCE chair Porter Goss (CIA DIRECTOR) left the do nothing committee to join Dickstein Shapiro that partners with Denis Haserts lobbying efforts for countries that have a liking for little boys and girls.
    Interesting too, in 2/2016 Mr Goss wrote a nice letter to Judge Durkin on behalf of Hastert.
    You were the one pushing the pizzagate nonsense. You owned it so don't try to walk away from it.

    Aren't there more Podesta emails that you can post about? I'm sure you can tie an email about dry cleaning into a satanic ritual or something.

    Where is this pizza thread you refer to?
    Does pizza trigger you?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-knocks-gop-for-gutting-ethics-panel-as-their-number-one-priority/

    So give Trump credit for knocking the GOP....but Conway was just defending them this morning. Total fucking disarray with these idiots.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    Karma can be your best friend
    Or your worst enemy
    For these selfish narcissists it will surely not be their friend.

    Namaste'
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,451

    This is scary. Yet it's what I expect from a party who didn't vote on a SC nominee.... just because.

    +1

  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    32 minutes for 2017s first trigger...WOW!


    If Trump did something like Pizzagate you would scoff it off as fake news propaganda because of your WMA privilege but who cares about facts?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Public shaming by ignorant democrats that never heard of the OCE until yesterday and don't know what it does or who are members, I enter this thread as Exhibit A.

    don't you have a pizza thread to mass post garbage to?
    32 minutes for 2017s first trigger...WOW!


    If Trump did something like Pizzagate you would scoff it off as fake news propaganda because of your WMA privilege but who cares about facts?
    Facts
    1. Trump has nothing to do with this thread and wasn't mentioned
    2. Republicans wanted to end OCE in June
    3. Clintons have nothing to do with this thread and weren't mentioned

    So where were we?
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    Karma can be your best friend
    Or your worst enemy
    For these selfish narcissists it will surely not be their friend.

    Namaste'



    Let us bathe in the irony.

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited January 2017
    Facts
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/79704196/

    WASHINGTON — The Senate Ethics Committee released its annual report this week declaring that for the ninth straight year, it imposed no disciplinary sanctions against anyone in 2015. Since 2007, the committee has received 613 allegations of wrongdoing and has summarily dismissed more than 90% of them. Only 75 have had even a preliminary investigation.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Sounds like a good elimination of government waste.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    edited January 2017
    JC29856 said:

    Facts
    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/79704196/

    WASHINGTON — The Senate Ethics Committee released its annual report this week declaring that for the ninth straight year, it imposed no disciplinary sanctions against anyone in 2015. Since 2007, the committee has received 613 allegations of wrongdoing and has summarily dismissed more than 90% of them. Only 75 have had even a preliminary investigation.

    You are to facts what Uwe Boll is to filmmaking. You sheeple cry about fake news but praise it when it suits your GOP propaganda agenda.
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