Wait wait... you are now arguing that yes, PIzzagate may not have been real (oh wait..."provable idea"). But pedophilia among the rich and powerful is real?! Well that is some breaking news you have exposed there, genius. Did you figure that out yourself or have a team of monkeys working on it all night? (movie quote...)
I simply posted a section from the article written along with the link. Not my words, it's there for discussion.
Anything from the link in particular you would like to discuss?
Not really. One thing I don't do is read and watch links people post if the poster fails to summarize their point or what they want people to glean from the link. It's a waste of my time to try to figure out what that person's point is.
You may try to argue that pizzagate is an "idea"... but the reality is that it was an accusation. An accusation made against HRC and Democrats, totally unfounded, that led to someone wielding a weapon in the pizza place.
As I've stated, I can't speak for how others tried try to frame this topic, I for one have explicitly stated it isn't about Hilliary, it is 100% non partisan and obviously not suited for everybody.
Description: Video recorded during Sasha Lord's birthday party at Comet Ping Pong. Individual with the microphone wearing a wig and ski mask is Amanda Kleinman (aka Majestic ape). Words used are very strange, video was deleted within an hour of it being found on youtube and had to be archived and reuploaded. She uploaded it a second time (as unlisted) and after a day or two switched it to private
https://youtu.be/vlhBn_zSIro?t=84 "anyway, here we are together and you all are very grateful that you are frantically pointing down below a subway sandwich shop cheers and cries of Yes! from the crowd AND Jared is known to hang out down here, he likes the 'world sounds, tamales??'" (not sure about this part) Audience members;" and little boys! and children!" 'MA' "I think that was his manager laughing 'Audience members' "Noaa" 'MA' "we all have preferences laughing menacingly Anyway"
MA refers to Majestic Ape, the person behind the microphone. it's very quick but they do mention it, it's just coded speak.
So there is a little irony.. if I'm not mistaken, you support a powerful institution that was absolutely complicit in pedophilia. How do you defend your support of the Pennsylvania State University?
So there is a little irony.. if I'm not mistaken, you support a powerful institution that was absolutely complicit in pedophilia. How do you defend your support of the Pennsylvania State University?
https://youtu.be/vlhBn_zSIro?t=84 "anyway, here we are together and you all are very grateful that you are frantically pointing down below a subway sandwich shop cheers and cries of Yes! from the crowd AND Jared is known to hang out down here, he likes the 'world sounds, tamales??'" (not sure about this part) Audience members;" and little boys! and children!" 'MA' "I think that was his manager laughing 'Audience members' "Noaa" 'MA' "we all have preferences laughing menacingly Anyway"
MA refers to Majestic Ape, the person behind the microphone. it's very quick but they do mention it, it's just coded speak.
I can't unhear or unsee this video anymore. Thanks a lot JC. I am sick and want to vomit everytime I read this thread title on AMT. The whole scene and voice and everything is wrong - this guy is sick. Don't care about their music don't want to further delve into MA, I am sick. This guy needs to be shot or locked up. Fuck
https://youtu.be/vlhBn_zSIro?t=84 "anyway, here we are together and you all are very grateful that you are frantically pointing down below a subway sandwich shop cheers and cries of Yes! from the crowd AND Jared is known to hang out down here, he likes the 'world sounds, tamales??'" (not sure about this part) Audience members;" and little boys! and children!" 'MA' "I think that was his manager laughing 'Audience members' "Noaa" 'MA' "we all have preferences laughing menacingly Anyway"
MA refers to Majestic Ape, the person behind the microphone. it's very quick but they do mention it, it's just coded speak.
I can't unhear or unsee this video anymore. Thanks a lot JC. I am sick and want to vomit everytime I read this thread title on AMT. The whole scene and voice and everything is wrong - this guy is sick. Don't care about their music don't want to further delve into MA, I am sick. This guy needs to be shot or locked up. Fuck
Maybe you will like another form of art, may I recommend Podestas art pieces.
The Dahmer pose, or kiddies and subway tile, piggie spoon kiddie?
Yes it does. Now. There also needs to be a change in the insistence that links only should be posted. We have no way of knowing what we're clicking on.
I'd rather see the shit itself obliterated. Plus those who perpetuate it.
I haven't been following this thread too closely since its inception, so not sure if some posts are intended to be incendiary...but I do wonder if some people really, truly get the impact this may have on those who have walked some sort of fucked up similar road - that's it's difficult to see, maybe some cavalierness in its presentation...and to re-address the pain and memories and anger it - yet again - makes rise and boil.
Then again, Prison Sex has been a healing go-to, don't know how many times. May need to turn to it for the.....Nth time.
One indicator of pedophilia is CP. The article discusses how pirate bay offered to help the SWEDISH national police catch it's users uploading and downloading CP, but the SWEDISH police were not interested.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told a Senate committee hearing that he wouldn't be surprised if Russian hackers put child pornography on US computers.
What started the citizen investigation into possible child trafficking: 1. Podesta email code speak 2. Laura Silsby now Laura Galyer
Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO.
Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Laura Silsby now goes by the name of Laura Galyer and works for Alert Sense.
From their website:"With the AlertSense IPAWS solution, your entity can issue critical, geographically based, public alerts and warnings through IPAWS OPEN accessible to FEMA authorized COGs (Collaborative Operating Groups). Public safety alerts, such as warning citizens of fire, hazardous materials, need for immediate evacuation or of a child abduction, civil danger or local area emergency, can be dispersed to a targeted geographic area through four IPAWS emergency alerting channels."https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/"
What started the citizen investigation into possible child trafficking: 1. Podesta email code speak 2. Laura Silsby now Laura Galyer
Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO.
Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Laura Silsby now goes by the name of Laura Galyer and works for Alert Sense.
From their website:"With the AlertSense IPAWS solution, your entity can issue critical, geographically based, public alerts and warnings through IPAWS OPEN accessible to FEMA authorized COGs (Collaborative Operating Groups). Public safety alerts, such as warning citizens of fire, hazardous materials, need for immediate evacuation or of a child abduction, civil danger or local area emergency, can be dispersed to a targeted geographic area through four IPAWS emergency alerting channels."https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/"
I will address the content of the dailybeast article as best I can, lets first post the content then I will address its content below.
WikiLeaks posted a screenshot of a Reddit conspiracy theory on Thursday afternoon riddled with incorrect information that attempted to tie a “woman caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
At 1:40 p.m. ET, WikiLeaks’ Twitter account tweeted “Significant, if partisan, find showing how the Clintons supported child stealer Laura Silsby,” then linked to a post titled “BREAKING: I believe I have connected a convicted child abductor who was caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
“If we can connect the Clintons to a child abductor their campaign is DONE!!!” the post reads.
WikiLeaks has posted 28 batches of hacked emails from the personal account of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in the run-up to next week’s election, and the Clinton campaign has not denied the veracity of the leak’s contents.
But WikiLeaks’ account has recently been engaging in speculation about the context of the leaks by linking to conspiracy theorists attempting to tie together characters and plotlines in the leaked emails to prove the Clinton campaign is part of a nefarious global conspiracy.
Thursday’s post comes from the subreddit R/The_Donald, the largest Donald Trump-related community on the web, where any criticism of Trump is grounds for an immediate ban. When the GOP nominee hosted an “Ask Me Anything” section on the subreddit, negative questions were immediately deleted and 2,200 accounts were banned for reasons like “No Dissenters,” which is one of the rules of the subreddit.
Written by user “PleadingtheYiff,” the post attempts to link the Clinton campaign to Laura Silsby, an Idaho missionary who served a six-month prison sentence in Haiti after the organization she founded, New Life Children’s Refuge, attempted to transport 33 Haitian children to the Dominican Republic after the 2010 Haiti earthquake.
The user’s primary proof of links between the Clintons and Silsby: “Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization.” The post provides no email sent from Clinton to Abedin regarding the incident.
The theory then includes a major error.
“One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook,” PleadingtheYiff writes, then links to a website called “AboveTopSecret.com.”
Silsby wasn’t freed and instead remained incarcerated in Haiti, where she faced trial and was found guilty. The nine other missionaries jailed alongside her were freed.
The top comment on PleadingtheYiff’s post links to eight threads on the white supremacist message board 4chan and another subreddit dedicated to “Operation Berenstain.” In its all-caps mission statement, R/Operation_Berenstain states: “OUR ONLY OBJECTIVE IS TO AID THE FBI IN RELEASING INCRIMINATING INFO REGARDING THE CLINTONS AND THEIR ACCOMPLICES.”
“Zero political opinion is permitted,” the subreddit’s rules read. “We have one goal and off topic activity is not allowed. We welcome people of all political affiliations. This is a non-partisan effort to expose crimes committed by the Clintons and their accomplices.”
R/The_Donald immediately claimed a major victory after WikiLeaks tweeted about the post.
“WikiLeaks referencing the_Donald," reads the top post on the subreddit at press time. “WE ARE THE MEDIA.” Get The Beast In Your Inbox! Daily DigestStart and finish your day with the top stories from The Daily Beast. Cheat SheetA speedy, smart summary of all the news you need to know (and nothing you don't). By clicking "Subscribe," you agree to have read the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy
The community has faced criticism on Reddit and elsewhere for its acceptance of racist speech. One comment about Muslims from August, for example, reads: “Fucking subhumans. I can’t wait for Trump to purge the nation of these filthy animals. I can’t even accurately describe the utter hatred and contempt I have for these vile rodents.”
That post received 57 upvotes, while questioning Trump’s policies merits permanent and immediate bans.
Earlier this year, r/The_Donald had potential moderator applicants fill out a questionnaire that included the questions: “Is white supremacy different than white nationalism?” and “Was 9/11 an inside job?”
I will address the content of the dailybeast article as best I can, lets first post the content then I will address its content below.
WikiLeaks posted a screenshot of a Reddit conspiracy theory on Thursday afternoon riddled with incorrect information that attempted to tie a “woman caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
At 1:40 p.m. ET, WikiLeaks’ Twitter account tweeted “Significant, if partisan, find showing how the Clintons supported child stealer Laura Silsby,” then linked to a post titled “BREAKING: I believe I have connected a convicted child abductor who was caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
“If we can connect the Clintons to a child abductor their campaign is DONE!!!” the post reads.
WikiLeaks has posted 28 batches of hacked emails from the personal account of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in the run-up to next week’s election, and the Clinton campaign has not denied the veracity of the leak’s contents.
But WikiLeaks’ account has recently been engaging in speculation about the context of the leaks by linking to conspiracy theorists attempting to tie together characters and plotlines in the leaked emails to prove the Clinton campaign is part of a nefarious global conspiracy.
Thursday’s post comes from the subreddit R/The_Donald, the largest Donald Trump-related community on the web, where any criticism of Trump is grounds for an immediate ban. When the GOP nominee hosted an “Ask Me Anything” section on the subreddit, negative questions were immediately deleted and 2,200 accounts were banned for reasons like “No Dissenters,” which is one of the rules of the subreddit.
Written by user “PleadingtheYiff,” the post attempts to link the Clinton campaign to Laura Silsby, an Idaho missionary who served a six-month prison sentence in Haiti after the organization she founded, New Life Children’s Refuge, attempted to transport 33 Haitian children to the Dominican Republic after the 2010 Haiti earthquake.
The user’s primary proof of links between the Clintons and Silsby: “Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization.” The post provides no email sent from Clinton to Abedin regarding the incident.
The theory then includes a major error.
“One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook,” PleadingtheYiff writes, then links to a website called “AboveTopSecret.com.”
Silsby wasn’t freed and instead remained incarcerated in Haiti, where she faced trial and was found guilty. The nine other missionaries jailed alongside her were freed.
The top comment on PleadingtheYiff’s post links to eight threads on the white supremacist message board 4chan and another subreddit dedicated to “Operation Berenstain.” In its all-caps mission statement, R/Operation_Berenstain states: “OUR ONLY OBJECTIVE IS TO AID THE FBI IN RELEASING INCRIMINATING INFO REGARDING THE CLINTONS AND THEIR ACCOMPLICES.”
“Zero political opinion is permitted,” the subreddit’s rules read. “We have one goal and off topic activity is not allowed. We welcome people of all political affiliations. This is a non-partisan effort to expose crimes committed by the Clintons and their accomplices.”
R/The_Donald immediately claimed a major victory after WikiLeaks tweeted about the post.
“WikiLeaks referencing the_Donald," reads the top post on the subreddit at press time. “WE ARE THE MEDIA.” Get The Beast In Your Inbox! Daily DigestStart and finish your day with the top stories from The Daily Beast. Cheat SheetA speedy, smart summary of all the news you need to know (and nothing you don't). By clicking "Subscribe," you agree to have read the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy
The community has faced criticism on Reddit and elsewhere for its acceptance of racist speech. One comment about Muslims from August, for example, reads: “Fucking subhumans. I can’t wait for Trump to purge the nation of these filthy animals. I can’t even accurately describe the utter hatred and contempt I have for these vile rodents.”
That post received 57 upvotes, while questioning Trump’s policies merits permanent and immediate bans.
Earlier this year, r/The_Donald had potential moderator applicants fill out a questionnaire that included the questions: “Is white supremacy different than white nationalism?” and “Was 9/11 an inside job?”
Trump supporters aren't racist. They're really intelligent and objective people that want a change.
For starters if you think the term pizzagate refers to a pedophile ring operated by Hilliary out of the basement of a DC pizza shop you're probably being mislead, or you are a devout Colbert cult follower.
Now on to the Daily Beast piece, basically its saying that you cannot or should not trust anything that comes from political opposition research, ie. if the facts come from those that are politically motivated (against Hilliary) they should be discredited. Okay lets assume the Silsby connection was researched and reported with the intention of bringing down Hilliary and electing Trump, does this mean that the conviction of Silsby and Haitian kid smuggling is not true? Of course research/information is used politically, no one said it wasn't/isn't. As I said before this topic is bi-partisan, myself and other citizen journalist researchers cannot anyone on here, 4chan, reddit, voat, steemit, facebook, youtube or twiter, from co-opting for political gain. Remember Cindy Sheehan, remember how moveon.org co-opted her fight for truth regarding her sons death and used it to advance their anti-bush campaign. Does it mean that her cause for truth and her sons legacy was tainted? She genuinely and honestly was trying to get to the truth, it is my belief thats what all this pizzagate stuff is really about.
So from truth to the only real rebuttal to the Clinton Silsby connection in this DB article. The user’s primary proof of links between the Clintons and Silsby: “Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization.” The post provides no email sent from Clinton to Abedin regarding the incident.
If I only reference what I posted in my original Silsby post, ignoring all the other cables from 2001 and other emails, this email https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465 shows Mills sending Hilliary an email chain with updates on Silsby. So far, technically, dailybeast (DB) is correct in their claim that Hilliary didnt request Silsby emails from Huma, but still Mills sends Hilliary the update on Silsby and Haiti. So Ill ask this, do people normally send their superiors information and updates on things that were never requested? Maybe? If that doesnt convince you, how about this email, from Huma to Hilliary https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772 " Prosecutors say a U.S. missionary should spend 6 months in prison for trying to take 33 children out of the country following the January 12 earthquake. Prosecutor Sonel Jean-Francois told a court it is clear Laura Silsby knew she had broken Haitian law. The prosecutor spoke after the Idaho woman testified on the first day of her trial." Again, DB is correct, Hilliary does not ask Huma anything about the incident but Huma just decides to send the email to Hilliary anyway. Huma and Mills seem to send Hilliary updates on an "incident" that she never requested information on. Strange, seems like a waste of time and energy and would only fill up Hilliarys inbox, like spam. Still not convinced of no involvement between Hilliary and Silsby, how about this one https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3539 from Koh to Hilliary cc Mills with these words" You have asked about the USG's options regarding the 10 Amcits from Idaho in Haiti, from the New Life Children's Refuge, who are currently being charged with child abduction and criminal association crimes under Haitian law. I know, I know the DB is still factually correct Clinton does not ask Huma for information about the "incident", this email comes from Koh and the email only implies that Hillary asked Koh for information about the Haiti incident. "You have asked for..." (Notice how child trafficking is referred to as an "incident".) Still think Hilliary had no interest in Silsby in Haiti, still think there is no link between Hilliary and Silsby? Not for me to decide or judge what anyone else believes.
I think basically that is all the author offered, anything I miss? He does hold the opinion that 4chan is a white supremacist message board, Im not sure if it is or isnt, I have never heard 4chan referred to as being white supremacist, maybe perverts for hacking celebrity nudes and posting them online, but not white supremacy. Any truth to that? Again even if a fact is discovered by the King of White Supremacy, does it make it any less of a fact-Silsby was caught convicted of haitian kid smuggling.
Is this really your rebuttal to everything I posted? What about the content? The emails? Nope. nothing there? Podesta code speak plus Silsby Haitian trafficking. Im not the brightest bulb in the shed but Im fairly certain that their is something here.
The swift boat reference is rather confusing, Im not sure if you're referencing the co-opting of this subject by others in 4chan or reddit or accusing me of being politically motivated? I never said the citizen research is/wasnt being done for a desired political outcome, Im sure it was, but again it doesn't change the facts. Lets try this, lets assume Russia hacked podestas emails and released them to Wikileak who then released them to the world so that Trump would be elected president, this doesnt change the fact that 34 days before the 2008 election Citigroup Exe Frohman chose (or guessed) 80% of Obamas cabinet. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8190 As for me, Im certain the election is over, Trump won, this isnt going away. Ive posted other info that show republicans and democrats (and hollywood producers) convicted of pedophilia and CP. Maybe I really care about the welfare and well being of children, maybe all I want to see is people being unfairly smeared. It has been my belief for some time now that the Clintons (dont forget Bill and his frequent trips with convicted pedo Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express to Sex Slave Island**) and CF and CGI are corrupt, alot of it I posted on these boards well before Hilliary Bernie or Trump. If my intentions are politically motivated why not start this thread before the election?
Off course: Speaking of reddit, does anyone find it odd that reddit deleted the pizzagate sub with all the early stage info and research related to pedophilia and child trafficking but still allows subs that discuss pedophilia, pedotalk and CP?
Sorry if this is disjointed, now where were we....
Former Netanyahu Chauffeur Jailed for 27 Years for Raping Seven Girls Ilan Shmuel, until five years ago a driver at Prime Minister's Bureau, convicted on dozens of sex crimes against girls aged nine to 16, some in his own family.
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And yes, I do have evidence that this is a fact. Just read this link. Read the post from 10:43 AM. http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/262585/pedophilia-and-child-trafficking#latest
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=93f_1478801482
Description:
Video recorded during Sasha Lord's birthday party at Comet Ping Pong.
Individual with the microphone wearing a wig and ski mask is Amanda
Kleinman (aka Majestic ape). Words used are very strange, video was
deleted within an hour of it being found on youtube and had to be
archived and reuploaded. She uploaded it a second time (as unlisted) and
after a day or two switched it to private
"anyway, here we are together and you all are very grateful that you are frantically pointing down below a subway sandwich shop cheers and cries of Yes! from the crowd AND Jared is known to hang out down here, he likes the 'world sounds, tamales??'" (not sure about this part) Audience members;" and little boys! and children!" 'MA' "I think that was his manager laughing 'Audience members' "Noaa" 'MA' "we all have preferences laughing menacingly Anyway"
MA refers to Majestic Ape, the person behind the microphone. it's very quick but they do mention it, it's just coded speak.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fbi-child-predators-free-hacking/
https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=nit
I am sick and want to vomit everytime I read this thread title on AMT.
The whole scene and voice and everything is wrong - this guy is sick.
Don't care about their music don't want to further delve into MA, I am sick.
This guy needs to be shot or locked up.
Fuck
The Dahmer pose, or kiddies and subway tile, piggie spoon kiddie?
https://www.google.com/search?q=podesta+art&prmd=inmv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjf0raOsrbRAhXELcAKHbEKDIEQ_AUIBygB
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@gizmosia/art-podesta-admires-and-buys-you-may-never-sleep-well-again
Why are you spreading this shit?
There also needs to be a change in the insistence that links only should be posted.
We have no way of knowing what we're clicking on.
I haven't been following this thread too closely since its inception, so not sure if some posts are intended to be incendiary...but I do wonder if some people really, truly get the impact this may have on those who have walked some sort of fucked up similar road - that's it's difficult to see, maybe some cavalierness in its presentation...and to re-address the pain and memories and anger it - yet again - makes rise and boil.
Then again, Prison Sex has been a healing go-to, don't know how many times. May need to turn to it for the.....Nth time.
One indicator of pedophilia is CP. The article discusses how pirate bay offered to help the SWEDISH national police catch it's users uploading and downloading CP, but the SWEDISH police were not interested.
Mentions teaching them to consent to "sexual intercourse with someone older than them".
https://plus.google.com/100135030400421275314 "Love is gender and age blind"
He is moderator of a google group "Heart Progress" https://plus.google.com/communities/110446157956097117720 (the page talks about legalizing pedophilia, incest, etc)
google "Heart Progress"
https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/ , the front page of which has a statement "You can still access Boy Chat"
Russians are good at cybering and hockey.
1. Podesta email code speak
2. Laura Silsby now Laura Galyer
Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3776
Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Are they pricing how much it costs to transport children?
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
The same group that got caught by Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Funding? Above board?
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Mills & co drafting statements following extradition?
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
HRC contacting a lawyer regarding the 10 people who were arrested for their roles in this kidnapping case:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3539
Bonus
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249280/Haiti-earthquake-Missionaries-led-Laura-Silsby-accused-stealing-orphans.html
Laura Silsby now goes by the name of Laura Galyer and works for Alert Sense.
From their website:"With the AlertSense IPAWS solution, your entity can issue critical, geographically based, public alerts and warnings through IPAWS OPEN accessible to FEMA authorized COGs (Collaborative Operating Groups). Public safety alerts, such as warning citizens of fire, hazardous materials, need for immediate evacuation or of a child abduction, civil danger or local area emergency, can be dispersed to a targeted geographic area through four IPAWS emergency alerting channels."https://www.alertsense.com/company/executive-team/"
Invalid? Fake? Rebutted? Not worth questioning?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/wikileaks-latest-find-is-a-conspiracy-theory-from-trump-s-subreddit.html
Not worth discussing a sophisticated politically motivated Swift boating operation.
What can you tell me about Backpage seeing how you're fighting the good fight?
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
Brilliantati©
WikiLeaks posted a screenshot of a Reddit conspiracy theory on Thursday afternoon riddled with incorrect information that attempted to tie a “woman caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
At 1:40 p.m. ET, WikiLeaks’ Twitter account tweeted “Significant, if partisan, find showing how the Clintons supported child stealer Laura Silsby,” then linked to a post titled “BREAKING: I believe I have connected a convicted child abductor who was caught stealing children in Haiti with the Clintons.”
“If we can connect the Clintons to a child abductor their campaign is DONE!!!” the post reads.
WikiLeaks has posted 28 batches of hacked emails from the personal account of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in the run-up to next week’s election, and the Clinton campaign has not denied the veracity of the leak’s contents.
But WikiLeaks’ account has recently been engaging in speculation about the context of the leaks by linking to conspiracy theorists attempting to tie together characters and plotlines in the leaked emails to prove the Clinton campaign is part of a nefarious global conspiracy.
Thursday’s post comes from the subreddit R/The_Donald, the largest Donald Trump-related community on the web, where any criticism of Trump is grounds for an immediate ban. When the GOP nominee hosted an “Ask Me Anything” section on the subreddit, negative questions were immediately deleted and 2,200 accounts were banned for reasons like “No Dissenters,” which is one of the rules of the subreddit.
Written by user “PleadingtheYiff,” the post attempts to link the Clinton campaign to Laura Silsby, an Idaho missionary who served a six-month prison sentence in Haiti after the organization she founded, New Life Children’s Refuge, attempted to transport 33 Haitian children to the Dominican Republic after the 2010 Haiti earthquake.
The user’s primary proof of links between the Clintons and Silsby: “Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization.” The post provides no email sent from Clinton to Abedin regarding the incident.
The theory then includes a major error.
“One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook,” PleadingtheYiff writes, then links to a website called “AboveTopSecret.com.”
Silsby wasn’t freed and instead remained incarcerated in Haiti, where she faced trial and was found guilty. The nine other missionaries jailed alongside her were freed.
The top comment on PleadingtheYiff’s post links to eight threads on the white supremacist message board 4chan and another subreddit dedicated to “Operation Berenstain.” In its all-caps mission statement, R/Operation_Berenstain states: “OUR ONLY OBJECTIVE IS TO AID THE FBI IN RELEASING INCRIMINATING INFO REGARDING THE CLINTONS AND THEIR ACCOMPLICES.”
“Zero political opinion is permitted,” the subreddit’s rules read. “We have one goal and off topic activity is not allowed. We welcome people of all political affiliations. This is a non-partisan effort to expose crimes committed by the Clintons and their accomplices.”
R/The_Donald immediately claimed a major victory after WikiLeaks tweeted about the post.
“WikiLeaks referencing the_Donald," reads the top post on the subreddit at press time. “WE ARE THE MEDIA.”
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Now on to the Daily Beast piece, basically its saying that you cannot or should not trust anything that comes from political opposition research, ie. if the facts come from those that are politically motivated (against Hilliary) they should be discredited. Okay lets assume the Silsby connection was researched and reported with the intention of bringing down Hilliary and electing Trump, does this mean that the conviction of Silsby and Haitian kid smuggling is not true? Of course research/information is used politically, no one said it wasn't/isn't. As I said before this topic is bi-partisan, myself and other citizen journalist researchers cannot anyone on here, 4chan, reddit, voat, steemit, facebook, youtube or twiter, from co-opting for political gain. Remember Cindy Sheehan, remember how moveon.org co-opted her fight for truth regarding her sons death and used it to advance their anti-bush campaign. Does it mean that her cause for truth and her sons legacy was tainted? She genuinely and honestly was trying to get to the truth, it is my belief thats what all this pizzagate stuff is really about.
So from truth to the only real rebuttal to the Clinton Silsby connection in this DB article.
The user’s primary proof of links between the Clintons and Silsby: “Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman’s organization.” The post provides no email sent from Clinton to Abedin regarding the incident.
If I only reference what I posted in my original Silsby post, ignoring all the other cables from 2001 and other emails, this email https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465 shows Mills sending Hilliary an email chain with updates on Silsby. So far, technically, dailybeast (DB) is correct in their claim that Hilliary didnt request Silsby emails from Huma, but still Mills sends Hilliary the update on Silsby and Haiti. So Ill ask this, do people normally send their superiors information and updates on things that were never requested? Maybe?
If that doesnt convince you, how about this email, from Huma to Hilliary https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772 " Prosecutors say a U.S. missionary should spend 6 months in prison for trying to take 33 children out of the country following the January 12 earthquake. Prosecutor Sonel Jean-Francois told a court it is clear Laura Silsby knew she had broken Haitian law. The prosecutor spoke after the Idaho woman testified on the first day of her trial."
Again, DB is correct, Hilliary does not ask Huma anything about the incident but Huma just decides to send the email to Hilliary anyway. Huma and Mills seem to send Hilliary updates on an "incident" that she never requested information on. Strange, seems like a waste of time and energy and would only fill up Hilliarys inbox, like spam.
Still not convinced of no involvement between Hilliary and Silsby, how about this one https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3539 from Koh to Hilliary cc Mills with these words" You have asked about the USG's options regarding the 10 Amcits from Idaho in Haiti, from the New Life Children's Refuge, who are currently being charged with child abduction and criminal association crimes under Haitian law.
I know, I know the DB is still factually correct Clinton does not ask Huma for information about the "incident", this email comes from Koh and the email only implies that Hillary asked Koh for information about the Haiti incident. "You have asked for..." (Notice how child trafficking is referred to as an "incident".)
Still think Hilliary had no interest in Silsby in Haiti, still think there is no link between Hilliary and Silsby? Not for me to decide or judge what anyone else believes.
I think basically that is all the author offered, anything I miss?
He does hold the opinion that 4chan is a white supremacist message board, Im not sure if it is or isnt, I have never heard 4chan referred to as being white supremacist, maybe perverts for hacking celebrity nudes and posting them online, but not white supremacy. Any truth to that?
Again even if a fact is discovered by the King of White Supremacy, does it make it any less of a fact-Silsby was caught convicted of haitian kid smuggling.
Is this really your rebuttal to everything I posted? What about the content? The emails? Nope. nothing there? Podesta code speak plus Silsby Haitian trafficking. Im not the brightest bulb in the shed but Im fairly certain that their is something here.
The swift boat reference is rather confusing, Im not sure if you're referencing the co-opting of this subject by others in 4chan or reddit or accusing me of being politically motivated? I never said the citizen research is/wasnt being done for a desired political outcome, Im sure it was, but again it doesn't change the facts.
Lets try this, lets assume Russia hacked podestas emails and released them to Wikileak who then released them to the world so that Trump would be elected president, this doesnt change the fact that 34 days before the 2008 election Citigroup Exe Frohman chose (or guessed) 80% of Obamas cabinet. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8190
As for me, Im certain the election is over, Trump won, this isnt going away. Ive posted other info that show republicans and democrats (and hollywood producers) convicted of pedophilia and CP. Maybe I really care about the welfare and well being of children, maybe all I want to see is people being unfairly smeared. It has been my belief for some time now that the Clintons (dont forget Bill and his frequent trips with convicted pedo Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express to Sex Slave Island**) and CF and CGI are corrupt, alot of it I posted on these boards well before Hilliary Bernie or Trump. If my intentions are politically motivated why not start this thread before the election?
Off course: Speaking of reddit, does anyone find it odd that reddit deleted the pizzagate sub with all the early stage info and research related to pedophilia and child trafficking but still allows subs that discuss pedophilia, pedotalk and CP?
Sorry if this is disjointed, now where were we....
** http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html
Former Netanyahu Chauffeur Jailed for 27 Years for Raping Seven Girls
Ilan Shmuel, until five years ago a driver at Prime Minister's Bureau, convicted on dozens of sex crimes against girls aged nine to 16, some in his own family.
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