Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited October 2017
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Perhaps you’d prefer this version. Pretty extensive in its detail of transaction amounts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/indictment-manafort-gates/index.html
    your version says Tymoshenko was president.

    your search function isnt working I received no results when I searched Putin, Russia, 2016, election, hacking, influencing, meddling
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Perhaps you’d prefer this version. Pretty extensive in its detail of transaction amounts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/indictment-manafort-gates/index.html
    your version says Tymoshenko was president.

    your search function isnt working I received no results when I searched Putin, Russia, 2016, election, hacking, influencing, meddling
    3D, D’ing hard for the dolla.
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Perhaps you’d prefer this version. Pretty extensive in its detail of transaction amounts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/indictment-manafort-gates/index.html
    your version says Tymoshenko was president.

    your search function isnt working I received no results when I searched Putin, Russia, 2016, election, hacking, influencing, meddling
    3D, D’ing hard for the dolla.
    I'm sorry, don't you realize that there are NFL players out there kneeling during the national anthem???  You are focusing on "conspiring against the US" when really important NFL things are happening?  SMH.  Don't lose focus.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Perhaps you’d prefer this version. Pretty extensive in its detail of transaction amounts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/indictment-manafort-gates/index.html
    your version says Tymoshenko was president.

    your search function isnt working I received no results when I searched Putin, Russia, 2016, election, hacking, influencing, meddling
    3D, D’ing hard for the dolla.
    I'm sorry, don't you realize that there are NFL players out there kneeling during the national anthem???  You are focusing on "conspiring against the US" when really important NFL things are happening?  SMH.  Don't lose focus.  
    Sorry, I was bedazzled by the brilliance and scope of the menu. A whole section devoted to nothing burgers.
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JC29856 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Perhaps you’d prefer this version. Pretty extensive in its detail of transaction amounts.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/indictment-manafort-gates/index.html
    your version says Tymoshenko was president.

    your search function isnt working I received no results when I searched Putin, Russia, 2016, election, hacking, influencing, meddling
    3D, D’ing hard for the dolla.
    I'm sorry, don't you realize that there are NFL players out there kneeling during the national anthem???  You are focusing on "conspiring against the US" when really important NFL things are happening?  SMH.  Don't lose focus.  
    Sorry, I was bedazzled by the brilliance and scope of the menu. A whole section devoted to nothing burgers.
    Good. There are bad, bad people out there on one knee...like it's church or something.  It's a disgrace.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    funny stuff. I just read an article on cnn.com titled "how Fox is covering developments". LOL. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    JC29856 said:
    any guesses as to who Company A and Company B are in the indictments?

    Comet Pizza? Kushner Properties? Two of the 600 businesses registered by the Trump Organization?
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    anyone watch family feud?
     X X X

    .https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    So here's a interesting little question.  Papadopolous learned of the email hack back in March or April, according to the indictment.  This means a Trump campaign official had knowledge of a crime.  Did he email that information to other members of the campaign?  If so, then who?  When did the FBI learn of the hack?  My understanding was July or so.  If Trump's team knew of a crime committed by a foreign gov't and did not report it, I believe that to be a crime too.  Am I off base here?
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited October 2017
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    funny stuff. I just read an article on cnn.com titled "how Fox is covering developments". LOL. 

    It is so creepy flipping over that channel. It's like an alternate universe that exists to calm the president's nerves or something...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    funny stuff. I just read an article on cnn.com titled "how Fox is covering developments". LOL. 

    It is so creepy flipping over that channel. It's like an alternate universe that exists to calm the president's nerves or something...
    alternate universe is exactly the phrase I used when talking with my dad the other day about all of this. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2017
    Wow, and now Podesta is has stepped down from The Podesta Group with speculation of possible charges tied to the Mueller investigation.  I do not think the dems or repubs are going to escape this unscarred.  

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited October 2017
    PJPOWER said:
    Wow, and now Podesta is has stepped down from The Podrsta Group with speculation of possible charges tied to the Mueller investigation.  I do not think the dems or repubs are going to escape this unscarred.  

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


    You understand that Podesta's firm was working for Manafort, right?  Manafort hired them.  As far as I know, Tony Podesta (not John) is a businessman and PR/lobby guy, and agnostic as to which political party or business hires him.  Is that not true?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Wow, and now Podesta is has stepped down from The Podrsta Group with speculation of possible charges tied to the Mueller investigation.  I do not think the dems or repubs are going to escape this unscarred.  

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


    You understand that Podesta's firm was working for Manafort, right?  Manafort hired them.  As far as I know, Tony Podesta (not John) is a businessman and PR/lobby guy, and agnostic as to which political party or business hires him.  Is that not true?
    He is sure being described as a “democrat power lobbyist” by all of the media outlets.  http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/who-is-tony-podesta/index.html

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Wow, and now Podesta is has stepped down from The Podrsta Group with speculation of possible charges tied to the Mueller investigation.  I do not think the dems or repubs are going to escape this unscarred.  

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314


    You understand that Podesta's firm was working for Manafort, right?  Manafort hired them.  As far as I know, Tony Podesta (not John) is a businessman and PR/lobby guy, and agnostic as to which political party or business hires him.  Is that not true?
    He is sure being described as a “democrat power lobbyist” by all of the media outlets.  http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/who-is-tony-podesta/index.html

    Why did he take a job working for a Republican then?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    But can't you see, this means that the democrats are just as bad as the republicans.....just like antifa is just as bad as the nazis.

    Welcome to Trumps world.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    Looks like all of the investigation is concentrated on pro-Russia work that these “collutants” well before the 2016 elections. These people chase the money regardless of their political affiliations.  This doesn’t specifically seem to be about HC or DT.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    PJPOWER said:
    mrussel1 said:
    To be clear, I'm not saying he isn't a Democrat, or that the majority of his US work isn't for Democrats, but he's in trouble based on work he did for Manafort.  These aren't separate issues.  And Podesta didn't work for HRC campaign to my knowledge.  
    Looks like all of the investigation is concentrated on pro-Russia work that these “collutants” well before the 2016 elections. These people chase the money regardless of their political affiliations.  This doesn’t specifically seem to be about HC or DT.
    You're right.  Except for the case of Papadopolous.  His conviction is directly tied into the election and I think he is the person most dangerous to Trump right now, directly. 

    Manafort and Flynn are dangerous not about these charges, but the seriousness of them and what it would take to make them talk.  Mueller will likely target Flynn's son to make Flynn talk.  I have to believe Flynn is next...

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