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merkinball: more vitalogy or more no code?

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    mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I would say No Code for sure. Vitalogy is angry AF. No Code is more introspective, which I feel these two songs to be, both lyrically and melodically.

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    PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,596
    I Got Shit would be perfect Track 3 on No Code(moving Who You Are to cleanup) Long Road as album closer on Vitalogy instead of HeyFoxyMopHandle..spaced far enough away from Nothingman would be my tracking.
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    PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,304
    Definitely No Code.
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    Caught-A-Bolt-Of-LightningCaught-A-Bolt-Of-Lightning Posts: 1,332
    They feel like Vitalogy songs to me.

    OP - Should have made this a poll.....
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    jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,853
    Pap said:

    Definitely No Code.

    ^^ this ^^
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,912
    I guess to me they sound very vitalogish because they were both played live on the 95 tour.
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,077
    Im guessing for me its the change of Jack on drums and the influence of Neil that partially sparked a change of direction and gives Merkinball a No Code feel.
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    KV4053KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,470
    Abe Froman said:

    Im guessing for me its the change of Jack on drums and the influence of Neil that partially sparked a change of direction and gives Merkinball a No Code feel.

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    jxchamb1jxchamb1 Posts: 82
    Whenever I hear Smile I think of Uncle Neil which makes me associate No Code with him hence they belong in the No Code family.

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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    PJammer4life said:

    I Got Shit would be perfect Track 3 on No Code(moving Who You Are to cleanup) Long Road as album closer on Vitalogy instead of HeyFoxyMopHandle..spaced far enough away from Nothingman would be my tracking.

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    KP278376KP278376 Posts: 42
    No Code for sure - Jack Irons drums on Long Road remind me of a way slowed version of In My Tree
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    ED477ED477 Posts: 134
    Both are in the vein of No Code hands down. Agree that they could be related to Dead Man. This was/is such a creative time period for them, definitely my favorite aside from the pre-TEN era. Still dream of what was going to be in that rumored "Hot Rocket" album slated between No Code and Yield. I'm sure most of it became Yield, yet one can still dream...
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    I side with No Code on this one.

    PS- I've been here a long, long time and I've never heard of "Hot Rocket"
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,912
    ledvedderman said:

    I side with No Code on this one.

    PS- I've been here a long, long time and I've never heard of "Hot Rocket"

    me too...what is this "hot rocket" you speak of?
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    ED477ED477 Posts: 134
    I'm sure if you google "Pearl Jam hot rocket" some old postings may come out. It was a "rumored" title for the "new album" at some time between No Code and Yield, mentioned on some radio stations in larger markets. One old fanzine "release" or "footsteps" had some copies of the articles back in that era, stating the album was suppose to come out 6 months after No Code harkening back to the 60's when major bands like the beatle, stone and The Who would release albums in short amount of time periods. Some say the album never existed, other say it evolved to become Yield, I've made my own "version" of bsides from both Jack albums for myself just to imagine what if.
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    Thierry HenryThierry Henry Posts: 2,654
    No Code for me.
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    Thierry HenryThierry Henry Posts: 2,654
    mcgruff10 said:

    I guess to me they sound very vitalogish because they were both played live on the 95 tour.

    mcgruff10 said:

    I m also leaning I got id toward no code but long road to vitalogy.

    You sound confused.
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    goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,302
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I would say No Code for sure. Vitalogy is angry AF. No Code is more introspective, which I feel these two songs to be, both lyrically and melodically.

    This. No Code all day for me, especially I Got Shit.

    I love threads like this, and seeing where people would fit songs into existing track lists throws up some great playlist ideas.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,912
    Thierry Henry said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I guess to me they sound very vitalogish because they were both played live on the 95 tour.

    mcgruff10 said:

    I m also leaning I got id toward no code but long road to vitalogy.

    You sound confused.
    Damn I didn't even realize I did that!!! Lol. I guess I am confused.
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,077
    ED477 said:

    I'm sure if you google "Pearl Jam hot rocket" some old postings may come out. It was a "rumored" title for the "new album" at some time between No Code and Yield, mentioned on some radio stations in larger markets. One old fanzine "release" or "footsteps" had some copies of the articles back in that era, stating the album was suppose to come out 6 months after No Code harkening back to the 60's when major bands like the beatle, stone and The Who would release albums in short amount of time periods. Some say the album never existed, other say it evolved to become Yield, I've made my own "version" of bsides from both Jack albums for myself just to imagine what if.

    I have never once heard of this
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    cropdustdaircropdustdair Lakewood, CO / Earth Posts: 2,006
    When I think Merkinball, I think Vitalogy era.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 17,986
    I got shit is the brother of corduroy....
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    H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,596
    I'd say No Code. Speaking of which. What is the rarity of vinyl ep of this? I'd really like to get it. Seen it a record store in seattle a few years back and didn't grab it. Should of...
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,912
    cropdustdair said:

    When I think Merkinball, I think Vitalogy era.

    because it sounds like it or because they performed both songs during the 95 tour?
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,191
    H.Chinaski said:

    I'd say No Code. Speaking of which. What is the rarity of vinyl ep of this? I'd really like to get it. Seen it a record store in seattle a few years back and didn't grab it. Should of...

    don't think it is too rare. I picked it up off of MusicStack back around 2008. but then again vinyl has gotten crazy since then.

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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,912
    H.Chinaski said:

    I'd say No Code. Speaking of which. What is the rarity of vinyl ep of this? I'd really like to get it. Seen it a record store in seattle a few years back and didn't grab it. Should of...

    This past september i picked one up off flea bay for $9.
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    cropdustdaircropdustdair Lakewood, CO / Earth Posts: 2,006
    mcgruff10 said:

    cropdustdair said:

    When I think Merkinball, I think Vitalogy era.

    because it sounds like it or because they performed both songs during the 95 tour?
    Both.
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    shetellsherselfshetellsherself New Jersey Posts: 8,783
    jxchamb1 said:

    Whenever I hear Smile I think of Uncle Neil which makes me associate No Code with him hence they belong in the No Code family.

    This
    Gern Blansten said:

    I got shit is the brother of corduroy....

    And this

    I'm confused too
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,354
    Heeeeeeyyy...you "stole" my question. ;-)
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/237885/with-which-album-do-associate-the-two-merkin-ball-songs-with-more-vitalogy-or-no-code#latest
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,248
    Funny, it seems this review sums up what many have said about the split between the 2 songs and what album they are associated with.

    http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/33746/Pearl-Jam-Merkinball/
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