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I'm not sure what "in the spirit of Thanksgiving" means, given your other thread.
I'm sort of in JimmyV's camp - not that I necessarily love talking politics but I do enjoy it, when constructive and open-minded.
(which is why I typically don't discuss it
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Oh the drama. Maybe we need a reality tv show? To dramatize the drama? Perfect for Trump TV.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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No shit, oh the drama.0 -
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I thought Obama canceled Christmas?HughFreakingDillon said:
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.
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huh?Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought Obama canceled Christmas?HughFreakingDillon said:
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I thought that since Obama has held office you weren't allowed to say "Christmas" and that in fact you couldn't celebrate Christmas at all. Only kwanza and Ramadan. Don't you remember the conservative outrage on Fox and Friends? Short attention spans indeed.HughFreakingDillon said:
huh?Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought Obama canceled Christmas?HughFreakingDillon said:
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.PJ_Soul said:
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.
Newsflash: Hillary lost.0 -
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought that since Obama has held office you weren't allowed to say "Christmas" and that in fact you couldn't celebrate Christmas at all. Only kwanza and Ramadan. Don't you remember the conservative outrage on Fox and Friends? Short attention spans indeed.HughFreakingDillon said:
huh?Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought Obama canceled Christmas?HughFreakingDillon said:
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.Free said:
Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.PJ_Soul said:
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.
Newsflash: Hillary lost.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Of course you think you're right.PJ_Soul said:
No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.Free said:
Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.PJ_Soul said:
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.
Newsflash: Hillary lost.0 -
well, in the spirit of context, did you frame it that way to your family? "hillary/you lost, get over it"?Free said:
Of course you think you're right.PJ_Soul said:
No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.Free said:
Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.PJ_Soul said:
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.
Newsflash: Hillary lost.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Oh dear, was that a personal insult? I thought you were against those. Especially the hypocritical ones.Free said:
Of course you think you're right.PJ_Soul said:
No, I didn't want to start a fight at all. I was just making a statement. Maybe take something from what I said, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.Free said:
Sounds like you just want to start a fight. Yay, you. Not biting.PJ_Soul said:
The very fact that you say "some people will never admit defeat" tells me that you are part of the cause of your little family problem.Free said:Anyone from or know of families falling apart from divisiveness of the election?
I certainly do. My family, Mostly Independents, are using their Clinton bias for refusing to not only come to terms that she lost, but, yes, not all the family voted for her. Their insistence that they are "right" and others are "wrong" creates quite the riff.
Some people will never admit defeat, even in the name of Thanksgiving and unity of family.
And that's a shame.
Newsflash: Hillary lost.
Are you suggesting you aren't a part of the problem?? Seems pretty damn unlikely.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Knowing what you wrote pre-edit, I refuse to engage you.0
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Talk about division.
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This thread is the best ever.0
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And a merry Christmas to you!HughFreakingDillon said:
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought that since Obama has held office you weren't allowed to say "Christmas" and that in fact you couldn't celebrate Christmas at all. Only kwanza and Ramadan. Don't you remember the conservative outrage on Fox and Friends? Short attention spans indeed.HughFreakingDillon said:
huh?Halifax2TheMax said:
I thought Obama canceled Christmas?HughFreakingDillon said:
crazy. we have pretty open discussions about politics if it comes up; my father in law is a staunch NDP guy (union), I think being partisan is stupid. he basically believes in one aspect of the party (for the worker) and will vote down party lines no matter what. i don't get it. my parents usually vote depending on platform, not party. my bigot brother most likely votes conservative every time, but i can't say for sure. he's outspoken on religion, but doesn't talk politics much. probably because he knows he'd be the only one at the table with his beliefs. well, besides his wife and brainwashed son.Free said:
Neither is to blame, but my fam seems to think anyone who didn't vote Hillary is WRONG. It's the wrong way to deal w/ things, esp. with loved ones, for god's sake.rgambs said:
I'm confused about who is to blame? The father who voted for Trump? The kid for being a lobbyist? Did one of them disown the other?Free said:
When your kid (nephew) worked for the state Dems, and is now working as a lobbyist (Nat'l Restaurant Assoc), and you vote for Trump?HughFreakingDillon said:breaking families apart? the presidency? what the hell?
Yeah, I guess so. Some people can't keep perspective of what's truly important in life. Their politics get in the way.
that reminds me. i'd better check facebook to see if he's posted any memes about how christmas is for heterosexuals.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.0
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To whom is that addressed?Free said:If you're not gonna discuss without trying to start a fight, I will not engage you.
Much of what I've read in this thread doesn't seem like anyone has been looking for a rumble.
(but if so, I'm curious who are the Sharks and who are the Jets)0
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