Thoughts on TOTD tour ?

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,024
    edited November 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    I thought it was a great show and it s obvious that the members of pj were very much challenged musically. Cornell has a great voice and is a wonderful front man.
    Unlike Pearl Jam I was good with one show. I m not a fan of mother love bone but do admit the songs sounded great live.
    Having ed show up would have been awesome.

    Couldn't agree more. :smiley:
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  • Loved the Seattle shows, no set list complaints (they did one album), Cornell sounded better than he has in years.

  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045

    Ed didn't know Andy, TOTD wasn't his band, he respectfully stepped aside.

    Would I have enjoyed an encore appearance from him? Yes. Would it have changed the dynamic and possibly overshadowed portions of the main set? Yes, which is why it makes sense he stayed a spectator.

    I don't think he respectfully stepped aside..i would bet he was never even approached by anyone to contribute...
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    mcgruff10 said:

    I love that people had no problem with Chris Cornell taking up stage time at pj20 but ed singing two songs with his own band on the totd tour would have been a tragedy lol. Wear your Cubs hat sheep.

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,146

    mcgruff10 said:

    I love that people had no problem with Chris Cornell taking up stage time at pj20 but ed singing two songs with his own band on the totd tour would have been a tragedy lol. Wear your Cubs hat sheep.

    I smell burnt toast
    I m not following professor.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Show exceeded expectations. Very cool to hear those songs live and to see PJ on a small stage (Philly). Of course it would have been awesome if Ed showed up but because he didn't, didn't make the show any less enjoyable.
  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 623
    Cornell sounded better than I expected. I think the same set list every night sucked some juice out of the later shows on the tour. People were practically trying to give tickets away for some of the west Coast shows it seemed. No problem with playing mostly the same songs every night, they only have one album....but at least mix up the order so there is some surprise and originality in each show! But it was a great night overall, band and Chris sounded great. Would see them again if they came around for sure.
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  • seanwon said:

    Cornell sounded better than I expected. I think the same set list every night sucked some juice out of the later shows on the tour. People were practically trying to give tickets away for some of the west Coast shows it seemed. No problem with playing mostly the same songs every night, they only have one album....but at least mix up the order so there is some surprise and originality in each show! But it was a great night overall, band and Chris sounded great. Would see them again if they came around for sure.

    I wonder if the juice you talk about is that people wanted EV to appear to sing in Hunger Strike.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I love that people had no problem with Chris Cornell taking up stage time at pj20 but ed singing two songs with his own band on the totd tour would have been a tragedy lol. Wear your Cubs hat sheep.

    I smell burnt toast
    I m not following professor.
    Its a burn! Like, you got burned!
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,146

    mcgruff10 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    I love that people had no problem with Chris Cornell taking up stage time at pj20 but ed singing two songs with his own band on the totd tour would have been a tragedy lol. Wear your Cubs hat sheep.

    I smell burnt toast
    I m not following professor.
    Its a burn! Like, you got burned!
    lol. got ya.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Vikkivale
    Vikkivale Los Angeles, CA Posts: 236
    I went to all five West Coast shows and I thought each show got better and better. I didn't mind nearly the same set list each night, though I did miss the element of surprise a little. I had the most fun at night 2 in Seattle and I thought that show had the best crowd. My only disappointment was no Chloe/Crown.
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Was at all the shows except LA and loved every minute of if. Philly 1 had some kinks which got worked out by Philly 2. Best shows for me were San Francisco, I remember being in awe of Chris' vocals at SF1, then things just got taken to the next level at SF2. Stone seemed to be having a blast at all the shows, he was bouncing all around the stage and was doing a fancy sliding side to side move on some of the songs which I've never seen Stone do before. I really liked seeing Chris go up to each member from time to time and putting his arm around them or in Mike's case, jumping in unison or adding an extra set of hands to his guitar. MVP was definitely Matt, the drumming was more intense than on PJ songs, he was unbelievable and I enjoyed seeing him in his element. It was just in general nice to see the band get into some songs which would never have worked with Eddie on vocals, and also seeing the different onstage interaction.

    Seasons with a full band was a real treat, and I'm so pleased to have gotten to hear Hey Baby live. My favourite TOTD songs were Your Saviour, Reach Down and Call Me A Dog. Could have done without Quicksand, I don't think it suited Chris' voice but I appreciate the attempt.

    I think it was appropriate for Ed not to be part of the tour, but do think he should have showed up at one of the Seattle shows to do Hunger Strike. I understand why he didn't though, he was really just a bystander for this, he didn't know Andrew Wood and wasn't part of the grieving process, plus his being there would have made it Pearl Jam + Chris Cornell and may have taken something away from the shows.

    I feel truly blessed to have been able to make all the shows I did and experiencing the entire album live. I've always enjoyed the songs when Cornell did them solo, but seeing them live with the full band was such a treat.
  • seanwon
    seanwon Posts: 623

    seanwon said:

    Cornell sounded better than I expected. I think the same set list every night sucked some juice out of the later shows on the tour. People were practically trying to give tickets away for some of the west Coast shows it seemed. No problem with playing mostly the same songs every night, they only have one album....but at least mix up the order so there is some surprise and originality in each show! But it was a great night overall, band and Chris sounded great. Would see them again if they came around for sure.

    I wonder if the juice you talk about is that people wanted EV to appear to sing in Hunger Strike.
    Definitely part of it. People were chanting for Eddie at MSG half an hour after Hunger Strike had been played, which baffled me.
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  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,548
    edited November 2016
    During the past qtr century, TOTD could've popped their tour cherry any other time. Real grateful they chose to do so while I live near two of the venues, and had help from selfless friends who were able to put me in amazing seats. Just very happy to witness history... at times through the phone of the lady sitting about 4 rows in front of me. Glad your experience was validated by hearts and thumbs flying accross your live stream
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  • I really enjoyed Philly night 2. Cornell sounded better I thought than when I saw Soundgarden two years ago. Mike McCready is just unbelievable. The MLB songs were great to hear live especially Stardog Champion, Holy Roller and Stargazer. I won't lie though I really wanted to hear Cornell do Crown Of Throns, but I feel like that's almost a Pearl Jam song in a way now so I get why they didn't play it. I'm kinda glad Ed didn't show up to any of the shows. Where they filming at any of the west coast shows? I know they were filming at both Philly shows. Also on a little side note. After Philly 2. Mike and Stone came out a couple hours after the show and signed some stuff and took pictures with fans. I missed this unfortunately but my friend met them, and said they were two of the nicest people she's ever met especially Mike.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,599
    edited November 2016

    Ed didn't know Andy, TOTD wasn't his band, he respectfully stepped aside.

    I think this says more about your pre-convieved views on Pearl Jam than about what happened. Because you don't know how or if he had to step aside aside.

    Or if you do:

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    (And for someone who didn't know Andy, Eddie sure talks, cries and sings on tribute albums about and for him a lot)
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177

    Ed didn't know Andy, TOTD wasn't his band, he respectfully stepped aside.

    I think this says more about your pre-convieved views on Pearl Jam than about what happened. Because you don't know how or if he had to step aside aside.

    Or if you do:

    image

    (And for someone who didn't know Andy, Eddie sure talks, cries and sings on tribute albums about and for him a lot)
    WTF? Do you think Ed and Andy hung out? When? Where? And nobody said he "had" to step aside. People are acknowledging that Ed likely excused himself from participating, since this tour really wasn't about him, and he would have created huge distractions. Anyone chanting for Ed at a show simply didn't understand what the show was about. The Vedder sycophants should just relax. He's still the guy fronting PJ. He just had no place in a TOTD tour.

    I loved the show I saw. It was an amazing event. More than just a show. It was an experience I'd hoped to witness, but never expected to. It was emotional and beautiful. After seeing Pearl Jam so many times, it was magical to see the band with Chris center stage performing these tributes. Big thanks to Chris and PJ for making this happen.
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  • ShanKathy
    ShanKathy Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 314
    Suziemay said:

    Stone seemed to be having a blast at all the shows, he was bouncing all around the stage and was doing a fancy sliding side to side move on some of the songs which I've never seen Stone do before. I really liked seeing Chris go up to each member from time to time and putting his arm around them or in Mike's case, jumping in unison or adding an extra set of hands to his guitar. MVP was definitely Matt, the drumming was more intense than on PJ songs, he was unbelievable and I enjoyed seeing him in his element.

    I did not see any shows live but from the videos I saw, Suziemay's observations stood out to me too. Clearly there is a great deal of affection and appreciation for each other. When you see them outside of the Pearl Jam environment, like their partnership with Neil Young, you really get to see them shine in a different way. Stone really stood out to me too, he seemed energized in the shows. What a great band!

  • steved
    steved Posts: 657
    Tour was a lifetime in the making for me.. A holy grail type deal for me! It was the album my wife and I went to sleep to for our first 10 years together.. It just stayed in the CD player.. I hit 5 of the 8 shows and they continued to get stronger throughout the tour..

    If I look back at all of the speculation before the tour of what the set would be it wasn't far off.. The covers were a little more obscure and they didn't do the demos but pretty close..

    The performances were strong, emotionally connected and tight.

    Would I have preferred to have a more varied set of covers or Ed popping in? Sure but neither were missed too much by me.. The momentum continued to build by them getting stronger with the same set.. The A/B pattern of switching the two Bowie tunes out and swapping Missing for Baby Lemonade at least had minimal variation..

    As for Ed's absense, I do believe that these are all guys that have nothing but love and admiration for eachother. So if he was in town which he was at multiple shows and didn't perform it is about not distracting from the message of the night.. Even Mike has his section of fans in front of him that only watch him all night and I watched him point at them and gesture to watch Chris at the appropriate times... He would never do that at a PJ show.. This was a poignant time for music..
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  • JMoney
    JMoney Denver Posts: 44
    Suziemay said it all in my opinion. Front row at SF 1 and we wanted for nothing. Love Ed like a brother but he would likely have been a distraction that was not critical to these performances. The ability to revisit those songs and not having to follow the PJ paradigm, you could see the difference in the style and energy level from the band - made my heart and mind swell. If they don't ever do it again I feel very fortunate to have seen that band and performance in person.
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