Electoral Coupe de Etat, Yes/No?

PJ_Soul

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjalive21 said:

josevolution said:

At this point I wanna see how much he will screw the country up I'd rather see him fail then to be stopped at this juncture...

man but when people said they wanted Obama to fail they were racist...weird

some of them were. not all of them. but you have to acknowledge that a very sizable portion hated obama simply for the colour of his skin. not unlike donald.

Let's not forget how this got started: The Birther Movement. Perhaps some of the most racist shit I've seen in my entire life. Actually, it is the most racist shit I've lived through.

And Trump was one of that movement's most vocal supporters. That was when I really started thinking that Trump was losing his mind. Obviously I was right. (but FWIW, I don't at all think it's the most racist shit you've lived through. If you think so, you are blissfully unaware of a lot of stuff going on in America).

vaggar99

Yes

the start of coupe de etat is here:
https://change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19?recruiter=641346620&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=des-lg-share_petition-reason_msg

vaggar99

Yes

it's starting:
https://yahoo.com/news/6-electoral-college-members-sign-120825282.html

ledvedderman

No. It's not starting.

HesCalledDyer

No

josevolution said:

At this point I wanna see how much he will screw the country up I'd rather see him fail then to be stopped at this juncture...

I want to see him succeed. I don't like the guy and I didn't vote for him. But to wish failure upon him means that the country ends up worse off than it is. I don't want to see that. He was elected fair and square. My only hope now is that, instead of creating more divide, WE THE PEOPLE work together to make sure he succeeds and does indeed (and I hate to sound cliche) make our country great again. The great thing about this nation is we have the freedom and the power to unfuck fucked up things. We need to stop bickering at each other and work together to make sure we don't get fucked up more than we are.

PJ_Soul

HesCalledDyer said:

josevolution said:

At this point I wanna see how much he will screw the country up I'd rather see him fail then to be stopped at this juncture...

I want to see him succeed. I don't like the guy and I didn't vote for him. But to wish failure upon him means that the country ends up worse off than it is. I don't want to see that. He was elected fair and square. My only hope now is that, instead of creating more divide, WE THE PEOPLE work together to make sure he succeeds and does indeed (and I hate to sound cliche) make our country great again. The great thing about this nation is we have the freedom and the power to unfuck fucked up things. We need to stop bickering at each other and work together to make sure we don't get fucked up more than we are.

I don't WANT to see him fail any more that I want him to be the horrible, awful, disgusting person that he is. Buuuut....... I really don't see how Trump can actually succeed, given all the information available. Succeed by my own definition, that is. Some other people might think he does succeed, depending on what they expect from the POTUS and government in general.
That said, when people are as divided as they are, I don`t actually see how working together is possible. Who the fuck is supposed to bend or compromise in this particular situation? Normally I would agree with you completely, but this isn't a normal situation at all. I think a lot of the issues that people are divided on are based in basic morality. I definitely don't think that people should be comprising their basic morals in order to stop arguing, nor to make things "nice" for a horrible new president who people honestly view as a threat to their freedoms and rights. I personally think that people should fight against Trump's bullshit tooth and nail, not try to make things easy for him. I wouldn't normally say this about a POTUS - no way - but again, this is not a normal situation. People should never forget that. And as long as people are fighting Trump's disgusting shit and that of his cabiner's, while others are fans of that pig and his pals, there is no way for people to come together (of course, I think it's pretty obvious which side of those two groups are on the right side of history). When the issues are racism, homophobia, bigotry, xenophobia, misogyny, and sexual abuse.... there isn't much room for compromise, is there? Nor should there be. I see it as good vs evil when those are the issues on the table.

CH156378

yes/no

i think everyone's time would be better spent focusing on mid term elections and getting out the vote. which, i may be wrong but traditionally democrats dont usually do very well in.we are going to have to just wait and see and make our voices heard. and people that do have a voice are going to have to speak up for those who dont, which the op eluded to in a different thread.

rgambs

No

HesCalledDyer said:

josevolution said:

At this point I wanna see how much he will screw the country up I'd rather see him fail then to be stopped at this juncture...

I want to see him succeed. I don't like the guy and I didn't vote for him. But to wish failure upon him means that the country ends up worse off than it is. I don't want to see that. He was elected fair and square. My only hope now is that, instead of creating more divide, WE THE PEOPLE work together to make sure he succeeds and does indeed (and I hate to sound cliche) make our country great again. The great thing about this nation is we have the freedom and the power to unfuck fucked up things. We need to stop bickering at each other and work together to make sure we don't get fucked up more than we are.

I think you are wrong. He is trying to change everything, if he fails things they stay the same and we live decent lives.
If he is successful, that's the danger facing America.

vaggar99

Yes

I don't want him to ever step foot into the White House. That's what this thread is about

ledvedderman

Too late.

vaggar99

Yes

Just gave $500 to this one

ledvedderman

So you've only wasted $2,500 tonight on shit that won't come to be. You could have donated that to a worthwhile charity and really impacted someone's life.

vaggar99

Yes

^^^i've been donating to a worthwhile charity for the last 25+ years. It's called PJ.

vaggar99

Yes

ledvedderman said:

So you've only wasted $2,500 tonight on shit that won't come to be. You could have donated that to a worthwhile charity and really impacted someone's life.

also prepared to spend more. much more if i start seeing potential and ROI. Let's just say that orange faced pervert isn't the only one with a little cash.

PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Are you trying to buy votes?

vaggar99

Yes

^^yes

vaggar99

Yes

Yes
https://youtu.be/zUlY6rh5BBQ

Shawshank

vaggar99 said:

it's starting:
https://yahoo.com/news/6-electoral-college-members-sign-120825282.html

Nothing is "starting", and stories like this only highlight people's utter lack of understanding when it comes to the electoral college. When a candidate wins a state, he gets his parties electoral votes for that state. To put it simply...if a Republican wins a state, then Republican electorates vote. Democrat wins, Democrat electorates vote. It's not some random group of people that are being forced to vote based on populous desires...they are in fact, strongly tied to their respective parties.

So in this story they are highlighting electorates from Washington state and Colorado, who are vowing to not vote for Trump. Well no shit...Clinton won those two states, who else are they going to vote for?? It's not like she won't get electoral votes from the states she won, she just won't have enough to win the Presidency. If people on either side think the electorates are going to vote against their party, they are out of their fucking minds.

The fact is, he won, and when it comes down to electoral votes...which is how our elections are determined...he won handily. Consider no Republican has won Pennsylvania and Michigan since 1988. Nor have they won Wisconsin since 1984. This is why the polls and the pundits gave Clinton a near 100% chance of winning. I'm not on the Trump train like some, but I am hoping beyond hope that he does a good job for the country.

HughFreakingDillon

No

Shawshank said:

vaggar99 said:

it's starting:
https://yahoo.com/news/6-electoral-college-members-sign-120825282.html

Nothing is "starting", and stories like this only highlight people's utter lack of understanding when it comes to the electoral college. When a a candidate wins a state, he gets his parties electoral votes for that state. To put it simply...if a Republican wins a state, then Republican electorates vote. Democrat wins, Democrat electorates vote. It's not some random group of people that are being forced to vote based on populous desires...they are in fact, strongly tied to their respective parties.

So in this story they are highlighting electorates from Washington state and Colorado, who are vowing to not vote for Trump. Well no shit...Clinton won those two states, who else are they going to vote for?? It's not like she won't get electoral votes from the states she won, she just won't have enough to win the Presidency. If people on either side think the electorates are going to vote against their party, they are out of their fucking minds.

The fact is, he won, and when it comes down to electoral votes...which is how are elections are determined...he won handily. Consider no Republican has won Pennsylvania and Michigan since 1988. Nor have they won Wisconsin since 1984. This is why the polls and the pundits gave Clinton a near 100% chance of winning. I'm not on the Trump train like some, but I am hoping beyond hope that he does a good job for the country.

I believe there are a few republican electorates that have said they won't be voting trump. But it was such a small number it won't make a difference, and who knows when it comes down to it, if they will actually vote that way.

vaggar99

Yes

This website allows you to email every elector in one shot
asktheelectors.org/