Here's to the State of Donald Trump

pjalive21

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

pjalive21

g under p said:

The only thing I've been surprised by is people's reaction to PE Trump. The protests even though they have a right to do so and the leave the country nonsense. I say give him a chance to see what he can do to help the whoke country. Things couldn't be better for him, the economy is rather strong, unemployment is lower than in 2008 they will cintrol ALL three branches of government......and soon control of the Supreme Court. I dont think this guy could possibly screw this up we shall see.

Peace

if he does then he definitely has no one to blame but himself, his policies, and cabinet choices

you have a great point here

rgambs

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

He looked like a damn fool...to racists!

There is clearly bias in policing, the stats are clear. The entire reason people like Obama get involved is to try to make the "process" play out in a fair way.
Only a fool believes in self-regulation in any industry, policing is obviously included.

Degeneratefk

Degeneratefk

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

So because he didn't speak out against a white man getting shot means his opinions are wrong? What you're saying is he isn't allowed to talk about a subject unless he talks about every specific example?

pjalive21

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

So because he didn't speak out against a white man getting shot means his opinions are wrong? What you're saying is he isn't allowed to talk about a subject unless he talks about every specific example?

I'm not saying that at all....he spoke out before any facts even came out...on every single case...he can have an opinion no one said he couldn't

pjalive21

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

He looked like a damn fool...to racists!

There is clearly bias in policing, the stats are clear. The entire reason people like Obama get involved is to try to make the "process" play out in a fair way.
Only a fool believes in self-regulation in any industry, policing is obviously included.

wow...so now im a racist

this goes along with be called a jihadist...this place is awesome

rgambs

pjalive21 said:

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

He looked like a damn fool...to racists!

There is clearly bias in policing, the stats are clear. The entire reason people like Obama get involved is to try to make the "process" play out in a fair way.
Only a fool believes in self-regulation in any industry, policing is obviously included.

wow...so now im a racist

this goes along with be called a jihadist...this place is awesome

Not what I said.
The other person you are debating right now is a staunch defender of police use of force, he also does not think Obama made himself look like a fool.
There is plenty of room between "cop hater" and "racist". I am sure you are somewhere between the two, just like the rest of us.

Go Beavers

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

Every time a trump voter speaks it failed logic. People were pissed off when Obama was president because minorities were getting closer to equal status, therefore you saw greater racial tension. Sorry Obama didn't affirm the bigoted whites world view. Now they have their racist authoritarian in power, so of course they want the left to shut up and bend over, just likethey're doing.

2-feign-reluctance

on2legs said:

Jammalambo said:

You know what?
If I was an american, I would be much more angry towards my fellow US citizens, because in case you haven't realized YOU (not yourself, but you as a whole country) voted for that disgusting human being. I really don't want to be polemic, it's just that I was seeing all these protests in the USA on tv the last few days.. What are they for? Completely useless. He's there and will remain there for at least another 4 years.
I was shocked that an individual like him could even ran for president, let alone actually WIN. I would personally ran away from a country capable to elect for president such a moron.. I would actually find myself another contry to be part of.
At least, he's been elected by your country, and he can always be voted out in 4 years (assuming he doesn't cause the world to explode before that time period)
Here in Italy people "elect themselves", how funny is that?
..I just want want to understand.. Trump he's ridicolously stupid beyond any imagination, and I can understand the frustration.. but, like I said, I would actually be more upset towards my own country.

You don't bail on something as worthwhile as your country when the ride gets rough. You roll up your sleeves, get to work, and try to fix it.

Best come back I've seen on these boards, period.

Go Beavers

pjalive21 said:

rgambs said:

pjalive21 said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjalive21 said:

Where were any of you to roll up your sleeves the last 8 years????

When you had a president chiming in on police shootings where he was shown to be a buffoon with his wrong opinion and jury that also showed him to be wrong

this countries division started with the POTUS and has now blown up with Trump in office...the past 8 years really pissed off alot of people and Trump (right or wrong) was a middle finger to both establishments

First, there is only 1 establishment. And second, trump is part of that establishment. He is a media savvy guy that tapped into the fear people had about their precious daughters and sons being raped and killed by the Mexicans or the Arabs.

How can a person have a wrong opinion? Obamas opinion of police shootings were wrong? So you didn't agree with the way he spoke out makes him wrong?

oh come on...did he ever speak out on a white man getting wrongfully shot by police?? did he ever defend the police when they were proven right buy a jury of said peers? Nope...he butted his nose in places it didn't belong and he was made to look like a damn fool in doing so

of course he can have an opinion but he didn't just stop at an opinion he was judge and jury before the actual process played out in numerous cases

He looked like a damn fool...to racists!

There is clearly bias in policing, the stats are clear. The entire reason people like Obama get involved is to try to make the "process" play out in a fair way.
Only a fool believes in self-regulation in any industry, policing is obviously included.

wow...so now im a racist

this goes along with be called a jihadist...this place is awesome

I haven't seen a trump voter explain how they aren't racist, but somehow made it okay to vote for one. They tend to agree with trump's plans that have prejudice imbedded in them. Maybe you can pull it off in your explanation. Take a whack at it.