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HughFreakingDillon

Choccoloccotide said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mookieblalock said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mookieblalock said:

I heard the liberals were the ones who discovered the invisible weapons of mass destruction!!!! Radicals!!!

How many times do I have to say it.  You guys keep bringing up Bush and the old Republican Party like it’s the same as MAGA.  It’s not even remotely the same.  MAGA is the new Republican Party now, and that’s why neocons like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley no longer have a seat at the table.  The Bush’s support the current administration, and one would think it would make you wonder why.  Bush is a war criminal and hates MAGA b/c we don’t believe in policing the world and forever wars.  Fuck the old GOP and the democrats.  They are one and the same.  

 Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley no longer have a seat at the table because the Republican Party is a cult who follow what the supreme leader tells them to do. As soon as someone dares cross the supreme leader, he instructs the cult to ostracize them forever from the cult. 

PJ fans simping for warmongers?  Who would’ve thought?

Trump invited the fucking taliban to fucking camp David. You know, the guys who murdered thousands of americans ON AMERICAN SOIL. 

Your boy is a traitorous cuck. 

Why do you care?  Go join antifa or something if you want to do something about it so bad. I’m sure they’re looking for new members to go riot, loot, burn and steal.   I think you should go for it.  You have the zeal of an anarchist that would be perfect for that!  MAGA

So in other words, you have no intelligent response to that. MAGA

Bentleyspop

josevolution said:

Choccoloccotide said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mookieblalock said:

Choccoloccotide said:

mookieblalock said:

I heard the liberals were the ones who discovered the invisible weapons of mass destruction!!!! Radicals!!!

How many times do I have to say it.  You guys keep bringing up Bush and the old Republican Party like it’s the same as MAGA.  It’s not even remotely the same.  MAGA is the new Republican Party now, and that’s why neocons like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley no longer have a seat at the table.  The Bush’s support the current administration, and one would think it would make you wonder why.  Bush is a war criminal and hates MAGA b/c we don’t believe in policing the world and forever wars.  Fuck the old GOP and the democrats.  They are one and the same.  

 Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley no longer have a seat at the table because the Republican Party is a cult who follow what the supreme leader tells them to do. As soon as someone dares cross the supreme leader, he instructs the cult to ostracize them forever from the cult. 

PJ fans simping for warmongers?  Who would’ve thought?

Trump invited the fucking taliban to fucking camp David. You know, the guys who murdered thousands of americans ON AMERICAN SOIL. 

Your boy is a traitorous cuck. 

Why do you care?  Go join antifa or something if you want to do something about it so bad. I’m sure they’re looking for new members to go riot, loot, burn and steal.   I think you should go for it.  You have the zeal of an anarchist that would be perfect for that!  MAGA

Again Hugh confronts you with known information and you resort to garbage no talking points just garbage in other words you have NOTHING! 

The QtRUmplican sycophants only know how to parrot the conspiracy theories, dogwhistles, and lies created by the writers at murdoch inc.

shecky

Gavin Newsom grilled over hefty price tag to help 'Trump-proof' California: 'Total waste'

California lawmakers held emergency session amid push to use millions to 'Trump-proof' state

 By Taylor Penley Fox News

Published December 4, 2024 7:00am EST | Updated December 3, 2024 2:00pm EST

California Gov. Gavin Newsom's latest efforts to "Trump-proof" his state are being slammed as a "total waste" by some Republicans, particularly as he eyes the chance to sign a bill including $25 million in additional funding for potential legal fights with the incoming administration.

"I wish my elected leaders would spend their time solving problems rather than creating more problems," former California Rep. Doug Ose, a Republican, said Tuesday on "Fox & Friends First." 

"Newsom's effort to basically fund his campaign for president in 2028 is just going to be a total waste of money that could be better spent on homelessness or schools or public safety and the like. This is just a charade."

Lawmakers wrapped up an emergency session to "Trump-proof" the Golden State this week, where the proposal to feed the state's Justice Department against the incoming administration took shape.

The majority Democratic state legislature is expected to introduce such proposed legislation in the coming weeks. If approved, California's Justice Department and state agencies would receive extra funding for court battles regarding areas like reproductive rights, environmental protection and immigration, according to Reuters.

Officials anticipate the legislation will be signed into law before Inauguration Day on Jan. 20.

Newsom, who is believed to be among the slew of Democrats who could take center stage for the party in the 2028 presidential race, commented on the alleged threat Trump poses to California, insisting the president-elect is trying to "unwind our progress." 

"His rhetoric is only heightened and his call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear," Newsom said in Sacramento on Monday. 

"We responded to his assault on California, where he tried to unwind our progress. And so what we're doing now with a special session is not waiting to react to that. We're preparing for that in a much more sober way."

Newsom has additionally defended the "Trump-proofing" push in a statement in which he branded the Golden State "a tent pole of the country … protecting and investing in rights and freedoms for all people" and that officials "will work with the incoming administration, and we want President Trump to succeed in serving all Americans." 

"But when there is overreach, when lives are threatened, when rights and freedoms are targeted, we will take action," Newsom continued. "And that is exactly what this special session is about – setting this state up for success, regardless of who is in the White House."

Ose doubled down on his criticisms, insisting the alleged "charade" ignores the struggles of California's citizens.

"Most people in California are struggling so hard and so desperately just to keep their heads above water. They don't have time to confront the governor on this kind of foolishness. This is just talk. This is just more of the same from Newsom," he critiqued. 

"He said he'd enforce the death penalty. He immediately said no. He said he'd finish high speed rail. Now we're 100 billion in and we're nowhere near completion. He said he'd fix K-12. It's a total failure. Look, Newsom, I mean, you just have to understand who Newsome is, and this is an extremely poor manager."

shecky

Halifax2TheMax

shecky said:

Fauxrage of the day, eh? Anyone get Hillary’s opinion on this topic?

mrussel1

shecky said:

Just curious, did you listen to the whole speech before deciding to post this and therefore implicitly agreeing with it, or was 48 seconds enough effort for you?

josevolution

shecky said:

Go ahead dispute it tell us how it’s not true! The day Obama won was the day white republicans lost their collective minds! 

shecky

Dem strategist gives stark warning about party's future after election loss: 'Our brand sucks'

'We no longer have anything remotely close to a long-term winning coalition,' Steve Schale says

By Kristine Parks Fox News

Published December 4, 2024 2:14pm EST | Updated December 7, 2024 9:30am EST

A Democratic strategist who helped President Obama win Florida in 2008 says his party needs a major overhaul if it wants to win future elections.

"IT IS TIME TO STOP talking about 2024," Steve Schale, CEO of the super PAC Unite the Country, told his party in a post for The Bulwark on Wednesday. 

"The real conversation is how my party went from the broadest electoral mandate of the previous twenty-five years, with the biggest majority in the Senate in the previous thirty years, to a shell of itself—a political organization that can hardly be classified as a national entity anymore," he continued.

The Democratic Party suffered major setbacks up and down the ballot in the 2024 elections, as President-elect Donald Trump recaptured the White House, and the GOP flipped the Senate and held on to their fragile majority in the House. 

Schale warned that Democrats were on a losing streak in Florida, Ohio and Iowa, and it was only going to get worse if they didn't make "real structural changes" to the party.

His suggestions included spending more money earlier on ads addressing crime and the economy and dealing with the right's "advantage" in the podcast and social media sphere by "building" their own "ecosystem" to deliver information to their base and persuadable voters.

But Schale said these strategies wouldn't work if the party didn't also change its messaging to broaden its coalition.

"The truth is we got here because our brand sucks. We tend to put voters in different buckets—black, Hispanic, young, gay, etc.—and treat these groups like they are more progressive than they really are, and somehow unique from each other. At the same time, we’ve made decisions to stop talking to large chunks of the electorate," he wrote.

The party needed to return to investing in all 50 states, he argued.

"But we have a bigger problem," Schale continued. "Sure, we can win elections under the right circumstances, but we no longer have anything remotely close to a long-term winning coalition."

He pointed out how the Democratic Party had been losing blue-collar White voters for several election cycles and that Hispanic voters had been turned off by the party's "socialism talk" in 2020.

"Still, despite plenty of people screaming from the rafters, the Biden campaign largely ignored the growing problems associated with the rhetoric of the extreme left. In doing so, it let the narrative settle in," he claimed.

Ultimately, the Democratic Party needed to reach out to the "median" voter who is not a partisan in future elections, he argued.

"We’ve seen what happens when we don’t listen to voters—when we focus on reinforcing our tent instead of expanding it, and when we move our message outside of the mainstream," he said.

"This is an opportunity for my side to redefine our values for voters who have stopped listening. Get this right, and we set ourselves up nicely for the next decade. Get this wrong, and we could be in the wilderness for a very long time," Schale concluded.

Choccoloccotide

shecky said:

Dem strategist gives stark warning about party's future after election loss: 'Our brand sucks'

'We no longer have anything remotely close to a long-term winning coalition,' Steve Schale says

By Kristine Parks Fox News

Published December 4, 2024 2:14pm EST | Updated December 7, 2024 9:30am EST

A Democratic strategist who helped President Obama win Florida in 2008 says his party needs a major overhaul if it wants to win future elections.

"IT IS TIME TO STOP talking about 2024," Steve Schale, CEO of the super PAC Unite the Country, told his party in a post for The Bulwark on Wednesday. 

"The real conversation is how my party went from the broadest electoral mandate of the previous twenty-five years, with the biggest majority in the Senate in the previous thirty years, to a shell of itself—a political organization that can hardly be classified as a national entity anymore," he continued.

The Democratic Party suffered major setbacks up and down the ballot in the 2024 elections, as President-elect Donald Trump recaptured the White House, and the GOP flipped the Senate and held on to their fragile majority in the House. 

Schale warned that Democrats were on a losing streak in Florida, Ohio and Iowa, and it was only going to get worse if they didn't make "real structural changes" to the party.

His suggestions included spending more money earlier on ads addressing crime and the economy and dealing with the right's "advantage" in the podcast and social media sphere by "building" their own "ecosystem" to deliver information to their base and persuadable voters.

But Schale said these strategies wouldn't work if the party didn't also change its messaging to broaden its coalition.

"The truth is we got here because our brand sucks. We tend to put voters in different buckets—black, Hispanic, young, gay, etc.—and treat these groups like they are more progressive than they really are, and somehow unique from each other. At the same time, we’ve made decisions to stop talking to large chunks of the electorate," he wrote.

The party needed to return to investing in all 50 states, he argued.

"But we have a bigger problem," Schale continued. "Sure, we can win elections under the right circumstances, but we no longer have anything remotely close to a long-term winning coalition."

He pointed out how the Democratic Party had been losing blue-collar White voters for several election cycles and that Hispanic voters had been turned off by the party's "socialism talk" in 2020.

"Still, despite plenty of people screaming from the rafters, the Biden campaign largely ignored the growing problems associated with the rhetoric of the extreme left. In doing so, it let the narrative settle in," he claimed.

Ultimately, the Democratic Party needed to reach out to the "median" voter who is not a partisan in future elections, he argued.

"We’ve seen what happens when we don’t listen to voters—when we focus on reinforcing our tent instead of expanding it, and when we move our message outside of the mainstream," he said.

"This is an opportunity for my side to redefine our values for voters who have stopped listening. Get this right, and we set ourselves up nicely for the next decade. Get this wrong, and we could be in the wilderness for a very long time," Schale concluded.

They won’t learn.  They’ll keep doubling down on stupid.

Choccoloccotide

Civil war brewing in the Dem Party.

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/danc-chair-jaime-harrison-cmc/?utm_source=ElWiz&utm_medium=twitter

brianlux

Haha, like the Republican are all at peace with each other.

Dude, the whole system is a clusterfuck these days.  The main difference is the Democrats and some true Republicans want to make constructive changes, but the MAGA simply want to fuck the whole thing up.

That's it in a nutshell.

Choccoloccotide

You’re right about the system being a clusterfuck, but who’s been in charge of that system for the last few several decades?  Answer:  Democrats AND “true Republicans” i.e. the uniparty has.  They corrupted the system and MAGA will fix it.

Lerxst1992

Choccoloccotide said:

You’re right about the system being a clusterfuck, but who’s been in charge of that system for the last few several decades?  Answer:  Democrats AND “true Republicans” i.e. the uniparty has.  They corrupted the system and MAGA will fix it.

Fix what? The wealthiest country in the world? Democrats control the final say on the law - the USSC? That's hysterical

The problem is how the wealth  spreads thru the economy and sure for shit the gop ain't helping you unless your income is over $400k

brianlux

"MAGA will fix it."

Sorry but...           

Choccoloccotide

Dems want power and they want it now!

https://nypost.com/2024/10/06/us-news/hillary-clinton-warns-that-allowing-free-speech-on-social-media-means-we-lose-control/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

shecky

shecky

mrussel1

shecky said:

Maybe DOGE can make some recommendations to import Indian civil engineers through the H-1B program to solve homelessness.  Remember, Vivek said this is a cultural issue.  Too many Saturday morning cartoons and soccer games, not enough Mathletes competing.  That's why our new DOGE leaders value foreign culture over ours.  

shecky

Laughter.

Halifax2TheMax

shecky said:

Laughter.

Lex get that breaking news from Andy No?