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mrussel1 said:

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TX Democrat Senator found guilty of multiple felonies...high ground...
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/22/carlos-uresti-guilty-felony-fraud-trial/

ba ha!  delicious irony, eh @PJPOWER Can't even troll for a few hours without a Republican fucking it up for you.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/missouri-governor-eric-greitens-indicted-on-invasion-privacy-charge.html

I don’t remember ever saying that Republicans weren’t corrupt as hell...but thanks for showing your lack of acceptance that Democrats are as well. Pretty much all politicians are probably guilty of shit like this...they just haven’t been outed.  It’s similar to the situations with all of the sexual assault pleague in Hollywood.

Oh yeah, where did I say that or imply that Democrats don't commit crimes.  I've always said people are people, regardless of political affiliation.  Do you just invent shit in your head and apply it to other people, or do you take what Rosie O'Donnell says and apply it to all people on the left?  I'm not the one that came in here talking about high ground.  That was you.  

Rosie O’Donnell?  Lol.  Na, plenty of examples within the AMT...I don’t have to use my imagination all that much...

You are literally just making shit up.  

??? Literally huh?  Do tell.  Actually, don’t, this is petty and I think we should probably both move on.  Not worth being angry over on a Friday, right?

There are literally a billion reasons why your statement is inaccurate.  

“Literally a billion”, lol.  I love statements like that .  I literally cannot stop laughing!

mrussel1

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

mrussel1 said:

PJPOWER said:

TX Democrat Senator found guilty of multiple felonies...high ground...
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/22/carlos-uresti-guilty-felony-fraud-trial/

ba ha!  delicious irony, eh @PJPOWER Can't even troll for a few hours without a Republican fucking it up for you.  http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/22/missouri-governor-eric-greitens-indicted-on-invasion-privacy-charge.html

I don’t remember ever saying that Republicans weren’t corrupt as hell...but thanks for showing your lack of acceptance that Democrats are as well. Pretty much all politicians are probably guilty of shit like this...they just haven’t been outed.  It’s similar to the situations with all of the sexual assault pleague in Hollywood.

Oh yeah, where did I say that or imply that Democrats don't commit crimes.  I've always said people are people, regardless of political affiliation.  Do you just invent shit in your head and apply it to other people, or do you take what Rosie O'Donnell says and apply it to all people on the left?  I'm not the one that came in here talking about high ground.  That was you.  

Rosie O’Donnell?  Lol.  Na, plenty of examples within the AMT...I don’t have to use my imagination all that much...

You are literally just making shit up.  

??? Literally huh?  Do tell.  Actually, don’t, this is petty and I think we should probably both move on.  Not worth being angry over on a Friday, right?

There are literally a billion reasons why your statement is inaccurate.  

“Literally a billion”, lol.  I love statements like that .  I literally cannot stop laughing!

Yes, obviously being ironic.  But seriously, I do not, nor ever said that Republicans are any more likely to do x, y, or z than a Democrat.  People are people and are responsible for their own behavior.  I take issue with right wing politics, ideology, etc., but I don't make broad statements about one 'tribe' being any more criminal than the other.  Every time someone tries to celebrate a Democrat going down for sexual misconduct, a Republican immediately follows; and vice versa. 

Halifax2TheMax

All is not bleak. Except maybe at Team Trump Treason’s White House or Mar-A-Lieo.

https://www.vox.com/2018/2/6/16973928/house-democrats-republicans-2018-midterms-fundraising

Halifax2TheMax

Picked up another special election seat. Not major but a win is a win.

Dems flip GOP-held Connecticut seat - The Hill https://apple.news/A0uLh4-1jTxeW-tagH2yUVA

JimmyV

I've been listening to these guys for a few years now and like them quite a bit in medium-sized doses. As an independent who has been greatly concerned by and highly critical of the Democratic party in recent years, hearing that something like this is in the works is a bit of a relief. I'm curious where it will go, and I'm skeptical those who most need to listen will, but I do think it could be one small step in the right direction.

https://crooked.com/article/a-party-in-the-wilderness/

What’s wrong with the Democratic Party, and how do we fix it?

Two fun questions that nobody ever argues about! And who knows, maybe you don’t think we need to. Maybe you feel pretty good about the 43 seats Democrats have flipped in the elections that have been held since 2016. Maybe you’re confident in the seven-point lead Democrats hold in the generic House ballot. Maybe you’re buoyed by the surge in grassroots activism and first-time candidates, and believe the energy we’ve seen from the Women’s March to the March for Our lives will translate into the votes we need to take back Congress, and ultimately the White House.

Are you sure?

I was sure once, right before Democrats lost history’s most winnable election to history’s most unpopular candidate. Republicans now control the presidency, both Houses of Congress, and a record 66 state-legislative chambers and 33 governorships. This wasn’t just a 2016 problem, either: Democrats lost nearly 1,000 of those seats during the Obama years. Even today, the favorable rating of the Democratic Party stands at an all-time low of just 31 percent. One poll found that two-thirds of Americans believe Democrats are out of touch—including nearly half of Democrats themselves. Not great!

In 2012, the Republican National Committee responded to Mitt Romney’s defeat by conducting what became known as an “autopsy”—a 97-page report that was shockingly honest and at times even harsh in its descriptions of the party’s failings, and its hostility to immigrants and people of color. (Funny thing about that: Republicans ignored just about every conclusion and elected a racist clown as president.)

Democrats didn’t even attempt to do an autopsy in the wake of 2016, relegating debates about the party’s future to places like Twitter and cable news, where they have gone perfectly. On , we don’t talk about the party as much as we’d like because the President just keeps obstructing so much justice. But we need to. We need have an honest conversation about how Democrats got lost in the political wilderness, and how we find our way out. The party shouldn’t just hang its hopes on the current wave of anti-Trump sentiment. We have to understand our weaknesses and correct them so that we can build a lasting majority that helps us withstand future Donald Trumps.Pod Save America

One contribution from me will be a new podcast we’re launching this summer—a special series about the history and future of the Democratic Party. Over the last six months, I’ve interviewed dozens of the party’s critics and defenders, organizers and strategists, historians, data nerds, policy wonks, and politicians. I also conducted a couple of focus groups with Democratic voters in Michigan and Texas, because I’m Frank Luntz now. I’ll use all of these interviews to tell a story, documentary-style, about where the party has been and how it might grapple with a number of different challenges: the economy, foreign policy, race, immigration, sexism, the media, the campaigns we build, the candidates we choose, and the message we deliver.

I’ve tried my best to get a diverse array of views that span the left side of the political spectrum—Hillary folks, Bernie fans, Obama alums, and none of the above. I don’t want everyone to re-litigate the past, but to learn from it. And that includes me. I have obvious biases that stem from the politicians and policies I’ve supported. But after 2016, I’m pretty open to having most of my assumptions about politics challenged. I’m not trying to make this series some kind of a roadmap or strategy memo; I’m just hoping it can generate a conversation among Democrats that’s a bit more nuanced and productive than the kind you get in 280 characters or less.

JC29856

josevolution said:

JC29856 said:

Got me blue wave, got me a blue wave, blue blue wave! scoreboard watchers!
2017
 1 U.S. Senate seat (AL)
 1 governorship (NJ)
 1 chamber (WA Senate)
 full control in 2 states (NJ, WA)
 sweep VA statewide
no change in U.S. House
 pick up 32 leg seats, (GOP pick up 4)
Maine expands Medicaid

check my accuracy, did I miss anything? Im feeling the effects of GMO poisoning this morning. Waiting for the "cleansers" to kick in!

Don’t fret 2018 is just around the corner , so when do you think Muller gets fired & HRC gets indicted any time frame will help me plan my 5 weeks vacation for this upcoming yr ..

#nowayhose

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

the curious case of imran awan
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/25/debbie-wasserman-schultz-aide-arrest-240960

An IT staffer getting arrested on bank fraud vindicates your vote for Trump.  Good to see a liberal like you make the right call. 

it staffer laptop WWS/DWS was very concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHGsyt2kZA

1. Imran worked for Debbie Wasserman Schultz since 2004 and had the passwords to her devices

A search of his name on WikiLeaks shows the DNC summoned Imran when they needed her device unlocked.

2. During the 2016 election, the House’s Office of Inspector General warned that Imran and his family were making “unauthorized access” to data

3. The Awan group was left on the House computer network until February 2, 2017 — days after Donald Trump’s inauguration

4. Shortly after the IG report came out in September 2016, the Caucus server — identified as prime evidence in the cybersecurity case —physically disappeared

5. Wasserman Schultz declined to fire Imran despite knowing he was suspected of cyber-security violations, even though she had just lost her job as DNC chair after its anemic handling of its data breach

6. After Imran was banned from the network, he left a laptop with the username RepDWS in a phone booth

7. The FBI began surveiling the family but let Imran’s wife, Hina Alvi, leave the country 

8. Prosecutors arrested Imran at the airport after he began liquidating assets

9. A former business partner of Imran’s father says the father handed over USBs of data to a Pakistani official and that Imran claimed he power to ‘change the US president’

10. Nearly Imran’s entire family was on the House payroll at high salaries, despite most of them having no training in IT — Democrats failed to vet them
11. House Dems Hired A Fired McDonald’s Worker As E-mail Administrator

12. Money from an Iraqi political figure

13. The cybersecurity investigation started after allegedly falsified invoices caught administrators’ attention, and the Awans’ lawyers blamed members. 

No one has been charged for “unauthorized access” or falsified invoices, and Imran’s court date has been postponed five times. It is now scheduled for May 4, 2018.

14. The Awans’ relatives, colleagues and tenants say they would ‘do anything for money’

15. Imran’s own wife, Hina Alvi, filed a lawsuit in Pakistan in September 2017 alleging he controlled Hina with violent threats
zerohedge

The Juggler

"The Daily Caller's" got it all figured out.

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

the curious case of imran awan
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/25/debbie-wasserman-schultz-aide-arrest-240960

An IT staffer getting arrested on bank fraud vindicates your vote for Trump.  Good to see a liberal like you make the right call. 

it staffer laptop WWS/DWS was very concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHGsyt2kZA

1. Imran worked for Debbie Wasserman Schultz since 2004 and had the passwords to her devices

A search of his name on WikiLeaks shows the DNC summoned Imran when they needed her device unlocked.

2. During the 2016 election, the House’s Office of Inspector General warned that Imran and his family were making “unauthorized access” to data

3. The Awan group was left on the House computer network until February 2, 2017 — days after Donald Trump’s inauguration

4. Shortly after the IG report came out in September 2016, the Caucus server — identified as prime evidence in the cybersecurity case —physically disappeared

5. Wasserman Schultz declined to fire Imran despite knowing he was suspected of cyber-security violations, even though she had just lost her job as DNC chair after its anemic handling of its data breach

6. After Imran was banned from the network, he left a laptop with the username RepDWS in a phone booth

7. The FBI began surveiling the family but let Imran’s wife, Hina Alvi, leave the country 

8. Prosecutors arrested Imran at the airport after he began liquidating assets

9. A former business partner of Imran’s father says the father handed over USBs of data to a Pakistani official and that Imran claimed he power to ‘change the US president’

10. Nearly Imran’s entire family was on the House payroll at high salaries, despite most of them having no training in IT — Democrats failed to vet them
11. House Dems Hired A Fired McDonald’s Worker As E-mail Administrator

12. Money from an Iraqi political figure

13. The cybersecurity investigation started after allegedly falsified invoices caught administrators’ attention, and the Awans’ lawyers blamed members. 

No one has been charged for “unauthorized access” or falsified invoices, and Imran’s court date has been postponed five times. It is now scheduled for May 4, 2018.

14. The Awans’ relatives, colleagues and tenants say they would ‘do anything for money’

15. Imran’s own wife, Hina Alvi, filed a lawsuit in Pakistan in September 2017 alleging he controlled Hina with violent threats
zerohedge

Mr. Welcher, you’re spinning hard for the rubles. Please give me my $1,000 worth. Fair is fair.

mrussel1

JC29856 said:

mrussel1 said:

JC29856 said:

the curious case of imran awan
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/25/debbie-wasserman-schultz-aide-arrest-240960

An IT staffer getting arrested on bank fraud vindicates your vote for Trump.  Good to see a liberal like you make the right call. 

it staffer laptop WWS/DWS was very concerned about!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAHGsyt2kZA

1. Imran worked for Debbie Wasserman Schultz since 2004 and had the passwords to her devices

A search of his name on WikiLeaks shows the DNC summoned Imran when they needed her device unlocked.

2. During the 2016 election, the House’s Office of Inspector General warned that Imran and his family were making “unauthorized access” to data

3. The Awan group was left on the House computer network until February 2, 2017 — days after Donald Trump’s inauguration

4. Shortly after the IG report came out in September 2016, the Caucus server — identified as prime evidence in the cybersecurity case —physically disappeared

5. Wasserman Schultz declined to fire Imran despite knowing he was suspected of cyber-security violations, even though she had just lost her job as DNC chair after its anemic handling of its data breach

6. After Imran was banned from the network, he left a laptop with the username RepDWS in a phone booth

7. The FBI began surveiling the family but let Imran’s wife, Hina Alvi, leave the country 

8. Prosecutors arrested Imran at the airport after he began liquidating assets

9. A former business partner of Imran’s father says the father handed over USBs of data to a Pakistani official and that Imran claimed he power to ‘change the US president’

10. Nearly Imran’s entire family was on the House payroll at high salaries, despite most of them having no training in IT — Democrats failed to vet them
11. House Dems Hired A Fired McDonald’s Worker As E-mail Administrator

12. Money from an Iraqi political figure

13. The cybersecurity investigation started after allegedly falsified invoices caught administrators’ attention, and the Awans’ lawyers blamed members. 

No one has been charged for “unauthorized access” or falsified invoices, and Imran’s court date has been postponed five times. It is now scheduled for May 4, 2018.

14. The Awans’ relatives, colleagues and tenants say they would ‘do anything for money’

15. Imran’s own wife, Hina Alvi, filed a lawsuit in Pakistan in September 2017 alleging he controlled Hina with violent threats
zerohedge

Who gives a crap? It doesn't change any rational person's politics beliefs. For a person to claim this somehow led said person to vote for Trump is either the sign of someone without an actual set of beliefs or an out and out lie. 

JimmyV

It's too bad "zerohedge" is the last word in the post because it pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Former Zero Hedge writer Colin Lokey said that he was pressured to frame issues in a way he felt was "disingenuous," summarizing its political stances as "Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft." Zero Hedge founder Daniel Ivandjiiski, in response, said that Lokey could write "anything and everything he wanted directly without anyone writing over it."[20] On leaving, Lokey said: "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run. This isn't a revolution. It's a joke."[2]

Halifax2TheMax

JimmyV said:

It's too bad "zerohedge" is the last word in the post because it pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Former Zero Hedge writer Colin Lokey said that he was pressured to frame issues in a way he felt was "disingenuous," summarizing its political stances as "Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft." Zero Hedge founder Daniel Ivandjiiski, in response, said that Lokey could write "anything and everything he wanted directly without anyone writing over it."[20] On leaving, Lokey said: "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run. This isn't a revolution. It's a joke."[2]

The last three words could apply to some poster’s posts. It’s not difficult to discern them.

JC29856

JimmyV said:

It's too bad "zerohedge" is the last word in the post because it pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Former Zero Hedge writer Colin Lokey said that he was pressured to frame issues in a way he felt was "disingenuous," summarizing its political stances as "Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft." Zero Hedge founder Daniel Ivandjiiski, in response, said that Lokey could write "anything and everything he wanted directly without anyone writing over it."[20] On leaving, Lokey said: "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run. This isn't a revolution. It's a joke."[2]

which of the 15  from Tyler Durden are false?

false also? Senate Panel Passes Bill To Protect Robert Mueller From Firing
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-26/senate-panel-passes-bill-protect-robert-mueller

The Juggler

That zero hedge site will give your computer a virus. I strongly discourage folks from clicking on the link. It's garbage.

Halifax2TheMax

JC29856 said:

JimmyV said:

It's too bad "zerohedge" is the last word in the post because it pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Former Zero Hedge writer Colin Lokey said that he was pressured to frame issues in a way he felt was "disingenuous," summarizing its political stances as "Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladimir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft." Zero Hedge founder Daniel Ivandjiiski, in response, said that Lokey could write "anything and everything he wanted directly without anyone writing over it."[20] On leaving, Lokey said: "I can't be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It's wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run. This isn't a revolution. It's a joke."[2]

which of the 15  from Tyler Durden are false?

false also? Senate Panel Passes Bill To Protect Robert Mueller From Firing
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-26/senate-panel-passes-bill-protect-robert-mueller

Obama is not an idiot. That you even had to ask. Jeesh, anything to 3D.

Go Beavers

The Juggler said:

That zero hedge site will give your computer a virus. I strongly discourage folks from clicking on the link. It's garbage.

I remember unsung posting doomsday predictions from zerohedge way back in the recession like they were gospel. 

Bentleyspop

Go Beavers said:

The Juggler said:

That zero hedge site will give your computer a virus. I strongly discourage folks from clicking on the link. It's garbage.

I remember unsung posting doomsday predictions from zerohedge way back in the recession like they were gospel. 

zerohedge is essentially one guy posting conspiracy theories. 

PJ_Soul

It is true, however, that the Senate Judiciary Committee approved legislation to protect Meuller from being fired.

Go Beavers

Bentleyspop said:

Go Beavers said:

The Juggler said:

That zero hedge site will give your computer a virus. I strongly discourage folks from clicking on the link. It's garbage.

I remember unsung posting doomsday predictions from zerohedge way back in the recession like they were gospel. 

zerohedge is essentially one guy posting conspiracy theories. 

That’s what corporate mainstream media wants you to believe! 

JC29856

who was it that said the "democratic" party shuts out progressive voices and choices??
DCCC to democrat voters: you dont vote for who you want, you vote for who we want!
(i wish someone would appoint a pj amt media czar to list only approved accepted media in these forums. I will agree to only link those that are approved by the appointed czar)
https://theintercept.com/2018/04/26/steny-hoyer-audio-levi-tillemann/
https://www.vox.com/2018/4/26/17285576/steny-hoyer-levi-tillemann-the-intercept-colorado-jason-crow

Here is a transcript of a section of Hoyer’s conversation with Tillemann. The recording published by the Intercept can be listened to here:

HOYER: Levi, obviously I wanted to talk to you about this congressional race.

TILLEMANN: You would like me to get out of the race.

HOYER: You keep saying I would like you to get out, and of course that’s correct.

TILLEMANN: I know you’re fundraising for Crow.

HOYER: Yeah. I’m for Crow. I am for Crow because a judgment was made very early on. I didn’t participate in the decision.

TILLEMANN: So your position is a decision was made very early on because voters had a say. That’s fine because the DCCC knows better than the voters of the Sixth Congressional District, and we should line up behind that candidate.

HOYER: That’s certainly a consequence of our decision. There are two things I would like you to consider. One may be easier than the other. First would be, if you stay in the race — and frankly, I hope that you would not — but I’ll get to that in a second. But if you stay in the race, it is not useful to the objective to tear down Crow. Crow’s clearly the favorite; doesn’t mean he’ll win, just means he’s the favorite.

TILLEMANN: I hear you.

HOYER: That doesn’t mean it’s right, just means —

TILLEMANN: No, I hear you.

HOYER: I don’t know Crow well, but I think he’s a decent human being.

TILLEMANN: So before we go any further on that, Crow is the favorite in no small part, Congressman Hoyer, because the DCCC not only put its finger on the scale, but started jumping on the scale very early on. I’m born and raised a Democrat, I mean, it’s undemocratic to have a small elite select someone and then try to rig the primary against the other people running, and that’s basically what’s been happening.

HOYER: I hear you, and I disagree.

TILLEMANN: But you were part of that process.

HOYER: Absolutely.

TILLEMANN: You said, “Abso —”?

Hoyer: Absolutely.

TILLEMANN: Yes.

HOYER: I’ve been at this a long time. When I said we need to get in strong, hard, and early, you disagree with me. You know, obviously, that’s your choice.

TILLEMANN: You guys are shoveling money at him.

HOYER: We’re going to continue.

TILLEMANN: You’re going to continue to do it?

HOYER: We are going to continue to do it, and the reason, Levi, we’re going to do it is because a decision was made to focus. It was clear that was our policy and our hope that we could, early on, try to come to an agreement on a candidate that we thought could win the general, and to give that candidate all the help we could give them so that we would have a unified effort going into a general election.

TILLEMANN: Which means effectively, Congressman Hoyer, I’m running a campaign against Crow, and against you, and against the DCCC, because you guys are on Crow’s side.

HOYER: Yeah. You know, frankly, that happens in life all the time.