True progressive democrats killing any chance of single payer nationally...instead its RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! Bought and paid for by health ins companies and big pharma! If it cant pass Cali it cant pass anywhere!!! Remind me again which state Hillary garnered the most votes?
Nothing better illustrates the political bankruptcy of the Democratic
Party—for all progressive intents and purposes—than California State
Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon’s announcement on Friday afternoon that
he was going to put a “hold” on the single-payer health care bill (SB
562) for the state, effectively killing its passage for at least the
year.
The Democratic Party finds itself in a bind in California. They hold
the governorship and a supermajority in both houses of the legislature,
so they can pass any bill they want. SB 562 had passed the Senate 23-14.
There was enormous enthusiasm among California progressive activists,
who, with organizations like Campaign for a Healthy California (CHC,)
and the National Nurses United (NNU,) and the California Nurses
Association (CNA) were working tirelessly, and hopeful of success.
.............Thus unfolds the typical Democratic strategy: Make all kinds of
progressive noises and cast all kinds of progressive votes, while
carefully managing the process so that the legislation the putatively
progressives putatively support never gets enacted. Usually, they blame
Republican obstructionism, and there certainly is enough of that, and
where there is, it provides a convenient way for Democrat legislator to
“support” legislation they know will be blocked and wouldn’t really
enact themselves if they could.
In the California case, the dissembling is obvious. The Republicans
can’t be blamed.The only thing standing in the way of single-payer in
California is the Democratic Party. As it was on the national level in
2009, when Obama and the Democrats could have passed any healthcare bill
they wanted, just as they passed the Republican-inspired, gift to the
for-profit health insurance industry, the ACA—without a single
Republican vote. It was true-believing capitalist Democrats like Max
Baucus, led by Obama and his sidekick Rahm Emanuel (who called leftists “fucking retarded”) who arrested
single-payer activists (including doctors) in order to prevent
single-payer from even being considered. It was they who strong-armed
reluctant Democratic legislators, who had signed an oath not to do so,
into passing a bill that leaves 28 million Americans without health insurance, and forces the rest into plans whose premiums rise and networks of coverage shrink every year.
Climbing on a mountain
Floating out on the sea
Far from lights of a city
The elements, they speak to me
Whispering that life
Existed long before greed
Balancing the world
On its knee
Don't see some men as 1/2 empty See them 1/2 full of shit
Thinking that we're all but slaves
There ain't gonna be
No middle anymore It's been said before
The haves be having more
Yet still bored
Won't someone save?
Won't someone save...
The world? As it was on the national level in
2009, when Obama and the Democrats could have passed any healthcare bill
they wanted, just as they passed the Republican-inspired, gift to the
for-profit health insurance industry, the ACA—without a single
Republican vote.
That was actually a great article! I've said it time and time again, the democrat's that ignore or give the finger to rural America are bound for failure. The "fuck those rednecks" mentality that I have seen from a lot of liberals (including a few here) is not going to help you win their vote...but will instead just create rallied opposition.
I live deep in the ruralz, and I say fuck those rednecks all the time lol
So do I, but I generally direct it towards specific individuals, not entire demographics of voters.
True progressive democrats killing any chance of single payer nationally...instead its RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! Bought and paid for by health ins companies and big pharma! If it cant pass Cali it cant pass anywhere!!! Remind me again which state Hillary garnered the most votes?
Nothing better illustrates the political bankruptcy of the Democratic
Party—for all progressive intents and purposes—than California State
Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon’s announcement on Friday afternoon that
he was going to put a “hold” on the single-payer health care bill (SB
562) for the state, effectively killing its passage for at least the
year.
The Democratic Party finds itself in a bind in California. They hold
the governorship and a supermajority in both houses of the legislature,
so they can pass any bill they want. SB 562 had passed the Senate 23-14.
There was enormous enthusiasm among California progressive activists,
who, with organizations like Campaign for a Healthy California (CHC,)
and the National Nurses United (NNU,) and the California Nurses
Association (CNA) were working tirelessly, and hopeful of success.
Meanwhile, right leaning states continue to lead the way in health care cost reduction, access, and quality with their innovative policies. 2016 data, couldn't get the pictures to embed so nicely, but not much has changed
True progressive democrats killing any chance of single payer nationally...instead its RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! Bought and paid for by health ins companies and big pharma! If it cant pass Cali it cant pass anywhere!!! Remind me again which state Hillary garnered the most votes?
Nothing better illustrates the political bankruptcy of the Democratic
Party—for all progressive intents and purposes—than California State
Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon’s announcement on Friday afternoon that
he was going to put a “hold” on the single-payer health care bill (SB
562) for the state, effectively killing its passage for at least the
year.
The Democratic Party finds itself in a bind in California. They hold
the governorship and a supermajority in both houses of the legislature,
so they can pass any bill they want. SB 562 had passed the Senate 23-14.
There was enormous enthusiasm among California progressive activists,
who, with organizations like Campaign for a Healthy California (CHC,)
and the National Nurses United (NNU,) and the California Nurses
Association (CNA) were working tirelessly, and hopeful of success.
Meanwhile, right leaning states continue to lead the way in health care cost reduction, access, and quality with their innovative policies. 2016 data, couldn't get the pictures to embed so nicely, but not much has changed
California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to massprotests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
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What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
You think you know something about my positions, but yet you know nothing. Second, evidently you have your own little litmus test on what makes a Democrat. This is quite interesting because your pre and post election posts seem to be more Trumpist in nature. Although I suspect you are truly a Leninist...You are against anything/anyone in power. Perhaps you are just "against" in perpetuity.
So tell me the litmus test... how many boxes do I have to check before I'm a Democrat?
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
You think you know something about my positions, but yet you know nothing. Second, evidently you have your own little litmus test on what makes a Democrat. This is quite interesting because your pre and post election posts seem to be more Trumpist in nature. Although I suspect you are truly a Leninist...You are against anything/anyone in power. Perhaps you are just "against" in perpetuity.
So tell me the litmus test... how many boxes do I have to check before I'm a Democrat?
my bad, must have you confused with someone else. not sure where your getting litmus tests from but it's obvious from Cal democrats that they only put forth single payer so it would be vetoed by republicans. now that they have full control they squash single payer as directed by their corporate paymasters. disingenuous to their constituents loyal to $. btw...I didn't accuse of you being a Democrat.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
It's worth listening to, or watching Cornell West on Democracy Now talking about the state of the party. His statement was along the lines of, preaching about moral superiority while privatizing based on who puts money in Democrats' pockets, using the military to resolve crises as a first choice, and suppressing political dissidents shows hypocrisy and portrays a morally bankrupt party. There was much more meaningful detail that I think everyone on here would find interesting and valid.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal. Since you support single payer, do you think we're closer to that today than we were in Oct '16? Do you think Trump is more likely to support and push for that or Trump?
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
No one argued that she was the best possibole candidate. The question is who is the better choice in the general. Not voting for Clinton is the same as voting for Trump if done by a Democrat. Since you are in PA, you hold some level of responsibility for the chaos, drama and regressive policies in place today. Like I posted above.. if you like single payer, well then you're further away today than you were 8 months ago. Cut off your nose to spite your face perhaps?
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
No one argued that she was the best possibole candidate. The question is who is the better choice in the general. Not voting for Clinton is the same as voting for Trump if done by a Democrat. Since you are in PA, you hold some level of responsibility for the chaos, drama and regressive policies in place today. Like I posted above.. if you like single payer, well then you're further away today than you were 8 months ago. Cut off your nose to spite your face perhaps?
I actually voted trump in a vote swap. As dumb as I am, I'm smart enough to know that money in politics will never let single payer happen. If California democrats won't allow for a public option, no way, never we will see single payer nationally.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
No one argued that she was the best possibole candidate. The question is who is the better choice in the general. Not voting for Clinton is the same as voting for Trump if done by a Democrat. Since you are in PA, you hold some level of responsibility for the chaos, drama and regressive policies in place today. Like I posted above.. if you like single payer, well then you're further away today than you were 8 months ago. Cut off your nose to spite your face perhaps?
I actually voted trump in a vote swap. As dumb as I am, I'm smart enough to know that money in politics will never let single payer happen. If California democrats won't allow for a public option, no way, never we will see single payer nationally.
Okay so I guess you are anti-choice, anti-EPA, anti-LBGT among other things too. You must be to do a "vote swap" with someone which makes no fucking sense in the world.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
Why do you care? You'll probably just vote for a conservative trainwreck because the Den candidate doesn't meet your radical standards anyways.
What about democrats that don't want single payer? Am I a sellout?
not at all. likely a sell out due to your position on political contributions, dark money, and corporations = humans.
So, were you with Bernie, or that person popular with many PJ fans that sat at the same table as Flynn and Putin? I can't really tell, and I'm not reading more than one page of your comments.
was never a huge Bernie fan, pegged him as a sellout long before his presidential run. speaking of litmus tests, a good litmus test for any politician is their position or better yet, changing position on Israel Palestine. I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
Good for you for being anyone but Clinton. Now we have Trump and a complete crony administration. Good thinking there Mr. Liberal.
For months I posted just how flawed your candidate was, long before most knew the name podesta, or obsessed over leaks and hacks. Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?
Why do you care? You'll probably just vote for a conservative trainwreck because the Den candidate doesn't meet your radical standards anyways.
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Bought and paid for by health ins companies and big pharma! If it cant pass Cali it cant pass anywhere!!!
Remind me again which state Hillary garnered the most votes?
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/27/california-scheming-democrats-betray-single-payer-again/
Nothing better illustrates the political bankruptcy of the Democratic Party—for all progressive intents and purposes—than California State Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon’s announcement on Friday afternoon that he was going to put a “hold” on the single-payer health care bill (SB 562) for the state, effectively killing its passage for at least the year.
The Democratic Party finds itself in a bind in California. They hold the governorship and a supermajority in both houses of the legislature, so they can pass any bill they want. SB 562 had passed the Senate 23-14.
There was enormous enthusiasm among California progressive activists, who, with organizations like Campaign for a Healthy California (CHC,) and the National Nurses United (NNU,) and the California Nurses Association (CNA) were working tirelessly, and hopeful of success..............Thus unfolds the typical Democratic strategy: Make all kinds of progressive noises and cast all kinds of progressive votes, while carefully managing the process so that the legislation the putatively progressives putatively support never gets enacted. Usually, they blame Republican obstructionism, and there certainly is enough of that, and where there is, it provides a convenient way for Democrat legislator to “support” legislation they know will be blocked and wouldn’t really enact themselves if they could.
In the California case, the dissembling is obvious. The Republicans can’t be blamed. The only thing standing in the way of single-payer in California is the Democratic Party. As it was on the national level in 2009, when Obama and the Democrats could have passed any healthcare bill they wanted, just as they passed the Republican-inspired, gift to the for-profit health insurance industry, the ACA—without a single Republican vote. It was true-believing capitalist Democrats like Max Baucus, led by Obama and his sidekick Rahm Emanuel (who called leftists “fucking retarded”) who arrested single-payer activists (including doctors) in order to prevent single-payer from even being considered. It was they who strong-armed reluctant Democratic legislators, who had signed an oath not to do so, into passing a bill that leaves 28 million Americans without health insurance, and forces the rest into plans whose premiums rise and networks of coverage shrink every year.
Floating out on the sea
Far from lights of a city
The elements, they speak to me
Whispering that life
Existed long before greed
Balancing the world
On its knee
Don't see some men as 1/2 empty
See them 1/2 full of shit
Thinking that we're all but slaves
There ain't gonna be
No middle anymore
It's been said before
The haves be having more
Yet still bored
Won't someone save?
Won't someone save...
The world?
As it was on the national level in 2009, when Obama and the Democrats could have passed any healthcare bill they wanted, just as they passed the Republican-inspired, gift to the for-profit health insurance industry, the ACA—without a single Republican vote.
2016 data, couldn't get the pictures to embed so nicely, but not much has changed
California Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon shelved for the year SB562, which intends to establish a state single payer health care system, he’s been subject to mass protests and even death threats. The bill’s chief backers, including the California Nurses Association and the Bernie Sanders-affiliated Our Revolution, angrily point to Rendon as the main roadblock to truly universal health care.
They’re completely wrong. What’s more, they know they’re wrong. They’re perfectly aware that SB562 is a shell bill that cannot become law without a ballot measure approved by voters. Rather than committing to raising the millions of dollars that would be needed to overcome special interests and pass that initiative, they would, apparently, rather deceive their supporters, hiding the realities of California’s woeful political structure in favor of a morality play designed to advance careers and aggrandize power.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/30/california-single-payer-organizers-are-deceiving-their-supporters-its-time-to-stop/https://newrepublic.com/article/143650/killed-single-payer-california
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/340732-dems-try-new-slogan-have-you-seen-the-other-guys?
Democrats 2018
"Rigging the primary is so 2016"
or
Democrats 2018
"but...but the debate questions"
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So tell me the litmus test... how many boxes do I have to check before I'm a Democrat?
not sure where your getting litmus tests from but it's obvious from Cal democrats that they only put forth single payer so it would be vetoed by republicans. now that they have full control they squash single payer as directed by their corporate paymasters. disingenuous to their constituents loyal to $.
btw...I didn't accuse of you being a Democrat.
I was hard core ABC from day 1. I would have voted a dead carcass before Hillary. I supported Jill Stein up until a few weeks before the election.
https://theintercept.com/2017/07/06/mark-penn-centrist-neoliberal-democrats-profits-donald-trump-republicans/
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/opinion/center-democrats-identity-politics.html
Mark Penn oldy/goody
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1973/10/26/impeachbut-with-care-pbtbhe-call-for/
Who are the next leaders in the party now? Booker, Harris, Cuomo?