FBI Working For Trump?

dignin

How Much Did Comey Hurt Clinton’s Chances?
And is it too late for his second letter to help her?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-did-comey-hurt-clintons-chances/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

dignin

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

We have no evidence of what happened to piss off those FBI agents, we can only speculate. They may just really disliked Hillary and like Trump. It really is too bad that Bill boarded that plane, was a completely stupid thing to do that got this whole ball rolling.

When the news broke that they were re-opening this investigation I assumed they must have had something pretty substantial. Doing that with 11 days left in the election was a huge bombshell that played right into Trumps campaign narrative.

The fact that there was nothing new to see in the emails makes me more sure that politics were being played. That's going to do some damage to the FBI's integrity. It should be costing some agents their jobs.

He probably did it to prevent a full on revolt. Politics for sure, but perhaps more internal FBI politics and indirectly presidential politics.

I agree. I'm guessing he knew it was going to be leaked if he didn't get it out first.

bootlegger10

It is a little shocking though that the maid was not questioned by the FBI.

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

JC29856

bootlegger10 said:

It is a little shocking though that the maid was not questioned by the FBI.

Or the IT manger at State Dept!

dignin

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

So more lies. Throwing as much mud as possible in the final days of the election.

The sources acknowledged that the FBI began looking into the Clinton Foundation after the controversial book “Clinton Cash” was published last year. In particular, agents were trying to determine whether donations to the foundation may have been traded for access to Clinton while she was secretary of state.

In February, FBI agents presented their findings to senior FBI officials and prosecutors in the Justice Department’s public integrity section, sources said. But the prosecutors and senior FBI officials agreed that there was no clear evidence of wrongdoing and that a criminal case tied to the Clinton Foundation could not be made, according to the sources.

“It was not impressive,” one source said of the February presentation. “It was not something that [prosecutors] felt they could authorize additional steps for. They were not impressed with the presentation or the evidence — if you could even call it evidence to that point.”

Investigators and higher-ups have continued to discuss the matter, but there has been no change in posture, sources said. Authorities still believe there is no evidence of wrongdoing, and they do not believe there is a sufficient reason to pursue charges, according to the sources.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

So more lies. Throwing as much mud as possible in the final days of the election.

The sources acknowledged that the FBI began looking into the Clinton Foundation after the controversial book “Clinton Cash” was published last year. In particular, agents were trying to determine whether donations to the foundation may have been traded for access to Clinton while she was secretary of state.

In February, FBI agents presented their findings to senior FBI officials and prosecutors in the Justice Department’s public integrity section, sources said. But the prosecutors and senior FBI officials agreed that there was no clear evidence of wrongdoing and that a criminal case tied to the Clinton Foundation could not be made, according to the sources.

“It was not impressive,” one source said of the February presentation. “It was not something that [prosecutors] felt they could authorize additional steps for. They were not impressed with the presentation or the evidence — if you could even call it evidence to that point.”

Investigators and higher-ups have continued to discuss the matter, but there has been no change in posture, sources said. Authorities still believe there is no evidence of wrongdoing, and they do not believe there is a sufficient reason to pursue charges, according to the sources.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736

This article is just quoting leaks downplaying an ongoing investigation. Whether charges will be filed isn't clear but the investigation with respect to Pay to Play is happening.

ledvedderman

per "sources" to WSJ and Fox?

BS44325

ledvedderman said:

per "sources" to WSJ and Fox?

No....per the article dignin just linked to. It confirms there is an investigation. Read the last paragraph: "Investigators and higher ups have continued to discuss the matter..." That is an investigation with a yet to be determined result.

HesCalledDyer

InHiding80 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

How about a tinfoil cat gif?

A cat would be better than Trump or Hillary. Garfield/Odie 2016! Free lasagna and no work on Mondays for all!

https://youtu.be/M20qEVP9aNc

unsung

12 months to research 30000 emails
8 days to research 650000 emails from a pedophile's computer.

FBI must read a lot faster.

InHiding80

HesCalledDyer said:

InHiding80 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

How about a tinfoil cat gif?

A cat would be better than Trump or Hillary. Garfield/Odie 2016! Free lasagna and no work on Mondays for all!

https://youtu.be/M20qEVP9aNc

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ps1oYsvlEzI

ledvedderman

unsung said:

12 months to research 30000 emails
8 days to research 650000 emails from a pedophile's computer.

FBI must read a lot faster.

You're a smart man. You know very well that with some basic computing, it's easy to narrow that 650k down to what they were looking for. All 650k was not how many they had to look at in regards to the investigation, but the total number of e-mails found on the laptop. When you factor in that the vast majority were duplicates that were already observed, 8 days of round the clock observation at the FBI is well within reason. Even the much loved "patriot" of folks on here, Edward Snowden, says that it's very easy to do even on an old laptop.

pjalive21

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

PJ_Soul

pjalive21 said:

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

I don't think we can say that, exactly. It really does seem like some people within the FBI were indeed colluding on some level with the Trump camp, or trying to. It simply didn't work, lol. Nevertheless, It is troubling.

dignin

PJ_Soul said:

pjalive21 said:

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

I don't think we can say that, exactly. It really does seem like some people within the FBI were indeed colluding on some level with the Trump camp, or trying to. It simply didn't work, lol. Nevertheless, It is troubling.

It remains to be seen whether the collusion worked or not. We should know tomorrow night I guess. I don't think any reasonable person would doubt that re-opening the investigation hurt Hillary in the polls.

Troubling indeed.

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjalive21 said:

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

I don't think we can say that, exactly. It really does seem like some people within the FBI were indeed colluding on some level with the Trump camp, or trying to. It simply didn't work, lol. Nevertheless, It is troubling.

It remains to be seen whether the collusion worked or not. We should know tomorrow night I guess. I don't think any reasonable person would doubt that re-opening the investigation hurt Hillary in the polls.

Troubling indeed.

Oh, well that's true. I meant it didn't work as in Hillary isn't going to jail because of it. But yeah, if you mean simply the fucked up announcement by the FBI and the involvement of the Trump campaign in an effort to sabotage the election, it definitely had an effect. And Trump is STILL running around saying this election is rigged, for fuck's sake. Um, yeah Donald, it actually was rigged. By YOU. The irony is painful.

rgambs

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

We have no evidence of what happened to piss off those FBI agents, we can only speculate. They may just really disliked Hillary and like Trump. It really is too bad that Bill boarded that plane, was a completely stupid thing to do that got this whole ball rolling.

When the news broke that they were re-opening this investigation I assumed they must have had something pretty substantial. Doing that with 11 days left in the election was a huge bombshell that played right into Trumps campaign narrative.

The fact that there was nothing new to see in the emails makes me more sure that politics were being played. That's going to do some damage to the FBI's integrity. It should be costing some agents their jobs.

He probably did it to prevent a full on revolt. Politics for sure, but perhaps more internal FBI politics and indirectly presidential politics.

Agree that it was internal politics that motivated the whole scenario.

PJfanwillneverleave1

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjalive21 said:

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

I don't think we can say that, exactly. It really does seem like some people within the FBI were indeed colluding on some level with the Trump camp, or trying to. It simply didn't work, lol. Nevertheless, It is troubling.

It remains to be seen whether the collusion worked or not. We should know tomorrow night I guess. I don't think any reasonable person would doubt that re-opening the investigation hurt Hillary in the polls.

Troubling indeed.

Oh, well that's true. I meant it didn't work as in Hillary isn't going to jail because of it. But yeah, if you mean simply the fucked up announcement by the FBI and the involvement of the Trump campaign in an effort to sabotage the election, it definitely had an effect. And Trump is STILL running around saying this election is rigged, for fuck's sake. Um, yeah Donald, it actually was rigged. By YOU. The irony is painful.

Now we have dems calling repubs riggers?

PJ_Soul

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjalive21 said:

i think the FBI being on Trump's side can be debunked now

Free Martha Stewart and Gen. Patreaus

I don't think we can say that, exactly. It really does seem like some people within the FBI were indeed colluding on some level with the Trump camp, or trying to. It simply didn't work, lol. Nevertheless, It is troubling.

It remains to be seen whether the collusion worked or not. We should know tomorrow night I guess. I don't think any reasonable person would doubt that re-opening the investigation hurt Hillary in the polls.

Troubling indeed.

Oh, well that's true. I meant it didn't work as in Hillary isn't going to jail because of it. But yeah, if you mean simply the fucked up announcement by the FBI and the involvement of the Trump campaign in an effort to sabotage the election, it definitely had an effect. And Trump is STILL running around saying this election is rigged, for fuck's sake. Um, yeah Donald, it actually was rigged. By YOU. The irony is painful.

Now we have dems calling repubs riggers?

I called Trump one, and I'm not a Dem. So no.