FBI Working For Trump?

dignin

Now that Giuliani has come out and admitted it, how does everyone feel about a "non-partisan" government agency apparently picking sides?

Rudy Giuliani is now openly boasting that the Trump campaign got advance notice of James Comey’s letter
The Trump campaign isn't even bothering to hide its ties to the FBI at this point

http://www.salon.com/2016/11/04/rudy-giuliani-is-now-openly-boasting-that-the-trump-campaign-got-advance-notice-of-james-comeys-letter/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

'The FBI is Trumpland': anti-Clinton atmosphere spurred leaking, sources say
Highly unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton intensified after James Comey’s decision not to recommend an indictment over her use of a private email server

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/03/fbi-leaks-hillary-clinton-james-comey-donald-trump

unsung

I will support all agencies that work to remove tyranny and treason, and remove domestic enemies.

josevolution

Well if that was their plan I say it worked to perfection I'm totally convinced that Trump will be the next president !

dignin

unsung said:

I will support all agencies that work to remove tyranny and treason, and remove domestic enemies.

Haha, sure.

dignin

Giuliani changes story on FBI
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/rudy-giuliani-hillary-clinton-email-fbi/index.html

josevolution

dignin said:

Giuliani changes story on FBI
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/rudy-giuliani-hillary-clinton-email-fbi/index.html

What an old coot ! lol

muskydan

josevolution said:

Well if that was their plan I say it worked to perfection I'm totally convinced that Trump will be the next president !

I like the way you think, this country needs a leader with Balls for the first time in awhile....

bootlegger10

When Hillary and the DOJ render the FBI meaningless I can understand the FBI's frustration.

unsung

dignin said:

unsung said:

I will support all agencies that work to remove tyranny and treason, and remove domestic enemies.

Haha, sure.

Hmm, well you don't know me. I'd have impeached every President since and including Reagan.

BS44325

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

dignin

Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy
Trump supporters with strong ties to the agency kept talking about surprises and leaks to come—and come they did.

Last October, after President Obama told 60 Minutes that the Clinton emails weren’t a national security issue, Megyn Kelly interviewed Kallstrom on Fox. “You know a lot of the agents involved in this investigation,” she said. “How angry must they be tonight?”

“I know some of the agents,” said Kallstrom. “I know some of the supervisors and I know the senior staff. And they’re P.O.’d, I mean no question. This is like someone driving another nail in the coffin of the criminal justice system.”

Kallstrom declared that “if it’s pushed under the rug,” the agents “won’t take that sitting down.” Kelly confirmed: “That’s going to get leaked.”

When Comey cleared Clinton this July, Kallstrom was on Fox again, declaring: “I’ve talked to about 15 different agents today—both on the job and off the job—who are basically worried about the reputation of the agency they love.” The number grew dramatically by Labor Day weekend when Comey released Clinton’s FBI interview and other documents, and Kallstrom told Kelly he was talking to “50 different people in and out of the agency, retired agents,” all of whom he said were “basically disgusted” by Comey’s latest release.

By Sept. 28, Kallstrom said he’d been contacted by hundreds of people, including “a lot of retired agents and a few on the job,” declaring the agents “involved in this thing feel like they’ve been stabbed in the back.” So, he said, “I think we’re going to see a lot more of the facts come out in the course of the next few months. That’s my prediction.”

Kallstrom, whose exchanges with active agents about particular cases are as contrary to FBI policy as Giuliani’s, formally and passionately endorsed Trump this week on Stuart Varney’s Fox Business show, adding that Clinton is a “pathological liar.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-fanboy.html

dignin

BS44325 said:

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

How about a tinfoil cat gif?

InHiding80

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

How about a tinfoil cat gif?

A cat would be better than Trump or Hillary. Garfield/Odie 2016! Free lasagna and no work on Mondays for all!

gimmesometruth27

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

BS44325

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

This comment shows that your country might be fucked either way because regardless of who wins you will have people such as yourself who see any result as rigged. The only two options on Wednesday morning are 1) The Justice Department blocked the FBI from truly investigating Hillary when obvious laws were broken or 2) Hillary was completely innocent but had the election stolen from her by a partisan FBI who was working with Russia on behalf of Trump. So much for the "will you support the results of the election" line of attack that's been laid on Trump for the last two weeks....that's out the window. Either victor will purge the FBI/Justice Department of the people it doesn't like and cynicism will only grow. No good result will come of this.

BS44325

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

dignin

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

bootlegger10

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

dignin

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

We have no evidence of what happened to piss off those FBI agents, we can only speculate. They may just really disliked Hillary and like Trump. It really is too bad that Bill boarded that plane, was a completely stupid thing to do that got this whole ball rolling.

When the news broke that they were re-opening this investigation I assumed they must have had something pretty substantial. Doing that with 11 days left in the election was a huge bombshell that played right into Trumps campaign narrative.

The fact that there was nothing new to see in the emails makes me more sure that politics were being played. That's going to do some damage to the FBI's integrity. It should be costing some agents their jobs.

dignin

Politicizing of FBI becomes hallmark of 2016
Rachel Maddow makes the case that one of the things historians will note about the 2016 election is the effort by elements of the FBI exceeded its boundaries to intervene in the election.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/politicizing-of-fbi-becomes-hallmark-of-2016-801655363718

bootlegger10

dignin said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

We have no evidence of what happened to piss off those FBI agents, we can only speculate. They may just really disliked Hillary and like Trump. It really is too bad that Bill boarded that plane, was a completely stupid thing to do that got this whole ball rolling.

When the news broke that they were re-opening this investigation I assumed they must have had something pretty substantial. Doing that with 11 days left in the election was a huge bombshell that played right into Trumps campaign narrative.

The fact that there was nothing new to see in the emails makes me more sure that politics were being played. That's going to do some damage to the FBI's integrity. It should be costing some agents their jobs.

He probably did it to prevent a full on revolt. Politics for sure, but perhaps more internal FBI politics and indirectly presidential politics.

dignin

How Much Did Comey Hurt Clinton’s Chances?
And is it too late for his second letter to help her?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-did-comey-hurt-clintons-chances/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

dignin

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

bootlegger10 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Probably anti-Hillary people versus pro-Trump if anything. But what I believe is that Comey was convinced by the DOJ to ditch the FBI's role as the investigator and become prosecutor. THat is probably what pissed off some in the FBI. Anyone listening to Comey's speech back in August (Dem or Rep) was shocked at Comey's conclusion based on the build-up in the speech. Of course there would be a revolt.

We have no evidence of what happened to piss off those FBI agents, we can only speculate. They may just really disliked Hillary and like Trump. It really is too bad that Bill boarded that plane, was a completely stupid thing to do that got this whole ball rolling.

When the news broke that they were re-opening this investigation I assumed they must have had something pretty substantial. Doing that with 11 days left in the election was a huge bombshell that played right into Trumps campaign narrative.

The fact that there was nothing new to see in the emails makes me more sure that politics were being played. That's going to do some damage to the FBI's integrity. It should be costing some agents their jobs.

He probably did it to prevent a full on revolt. Politics for sure, but perhaps more internal FBI politics and indirectly presidential politics.

I agree. I'm guessing he knew it was going to be leaked if he didn't get it out first.

bootlegger10

It is a little shocking though that the maid was not questioned by the FBI.

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

JC29856

bootlegger10 said:

It is a little shocking though that the maid was not questioned by the FBI.

Or the IT manger at State Dept!

dignin

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

So more lies. Throwing as much mud as possible in the final days of the election.

The sources acknowledged that the FBI began looking into the Clinton Foundation after the controversial book “Clinton Cash” was published last year. In particular, agents were trying to determine whether donations to the foundation may have been traded for access to Clinton while she was secretary of state.

In February, FBI agents presented their findings to senior FBI officials and prosecutors in the Justice Department’s public integrity section, sources said. But the prosecutors and senior FBI officials agreed that there was no clear evidence of wrongdoing and that a criminal case tied to the Clinton Foundation could not be made, according to the sources.

“It was not impressive,” one source said of the February presentation. “It was not something that [prosecutors] felt they could authorize additional steps for. They were not impressed with the presentation or the evidence — if you could even call it evidence to that point.”

Investigators and higher-ups have continued to discuss the matter, but there has been no change in posture, sources said. Authorities still believe there is no evidence of wrongdoing, and they do not believe there is a sufficient reason to pursue charges, according to the sources.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736

BS44325

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if people believe that it is okay for a federal agency, as well as russia, to become partisan and try to sway our election, then this country is well and truly fucked.

people who are okay with this claim to be patriots any other time and in any other situation. people who are okay with this disgust me. they are all political hacks.

there would be a lot of outrage on here if the fbi was working against trump.

Who is the FBI working for now Gimme?

Comey is just doing the right thing now after being pressured by Trump supporting agents to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately politics were played by the FBI and the damage has already been done.

Guess all those leaks to Fox News about emanate charges coming were full of shit, no surprise.

Charges with respect to email yes but charges with respect to foundation no. Those investigations are still ongoing.

So more lies. Throwing as much mud as possible in the final days of the election.

The sources acknowledged that the FBI began looking into the Clinton Foundation after the controversial book “Clinton Cash” was published last year. In particular, agents were trying to determine whether donations to the foundation may have been traded for access to Clinton while she was secretary of state.

In February, FBI agents presented their findings to senior FBI officials and prosecutors in the Justice Department’s public integrity section, sources said. But the prosecutors and senior FBI officials agreed that there was no clear evidence of wrongdoing and that a criminal case tied to the Clinton Foundation could not be made, according to the sources.

“It was not impressive,” one source said of the February presentation. “It was not something that [prosecutors] felt they could authorize additional steps for. They were not impressed with the presentation or the evidence — if you could even call it evidence to that point.”

Investigators and higher-ups have continued to discuss the matter, but there has been no change in posture, sources said. Authorities still believe there is no evidence of wrongdoing, and they do not believe there is a sufficient reason to pursue charges, according to the sources.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-claims-evidence-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-impressive/story?id=43282736

This article is just quoting leaks downplaying an ongoing investigation. Whether charges will be filed isn't clear but the investigation with respect to Pay to Play is happening.

ledvedderman

per "sources" to WSJ and Fox?

BS44325

ledvedderman said:

per "sources" to WSJ and Fox?

No....per the article dignin just linked to. It confirms there is an investigation. Read the last paragraph: "Investigators and higher ups have continued to discuss the matter..." That is an investigation with a yet to be determined result.

HesCalledDyer

InHiding80 said:

dignin said:

BS44325 said:

Where is the guy who inserts the "tinfoil hat" gif when you need him?

How about a tinfoil cat gif?

A cat would be better than Trump or Hillary. Garfield/Odie 2016! Free lasagna and no work on Mondays for all!

https://youtu.be/M20qEVP9aNc