Ticket Prices

Eddieredder

I feel PJ keeps tickets affordable. Who are we kidding? If they sold tickets at GNR or U2/Coldplay prices they would still sell out and we would still be buying them.

I've read that most tickets are already sold/gone by the time they go on sale. Between fan club seats, seats the venue takes, seats the promoter takes, sponsor tickets, radio stations etc etc etc.............most of the time only around 25-30% of the tickets are really available to the public. The really good seats will never be available to the public.

I'm not a Coldplay fan, but I'm not blind to their popularity. They will be close to capacity. No question.

riley540

Eddieredder said:

I feel PJ keeps tickets affordable. Who are we kidding? If they sold tickets at GNR or U2/Coldplay prices they would still sell out and we would still be buying them.

I've read that most tickets are already sold/gone by the time they go on sale. Between fan club seats, seats the venue takes, seats the promoter takes, sponsor tickets, radio stations etc etc etc.............most of the time only around 25-30% of the tickets are really available to the public. The really good seats will never be available to the public.

I'm not a Coldplay fan, but I'm not blind to their popularity. They will be close to capacity. No question.

I'm sure I would still go see PJ if tickets cost more, but I respect the low prices a lot. I lived in Alaska up until this year, so it was always an expensive trip to go see them. I saw them in 2013 when I was a senior in high school, and have seen them every year since. I just keep saving my pennies

tweedyfanjen

Earlier this summer I saw that Culture Club was playing in Charleston. Being a huge fan of 80's music I thought I'd go since I never got to see them at the peak of their popularity. Tickets were over $200/seat and slightly less than that for nosebleed. No thanks. I didn't even pay that much to see Paul McCartney last year.

Eddieredder

riley540 said:

kasedoug said:

They're basically just trying to cut out the secondary market by pricing their tickets at what they perceive the market value to be. At $100 per ticket, lots more people would want tickets than there would be tickets available so when those tickets are sold out, fans that still want them would have to find tickets on the secondary market priced at those higher amounts.

Louis CK the Comedian has a good solution for his live shows. I buought tickets to see him $50 each for great seats. I have to show up at the venue with ID to get my tickets the day of. No stub hub or anything like that can sell tickets for his shows.
Even temple of the dog tickets for Seattle are insanely high. They should just make it so you have to show ID to enter. All the tickets would have been sold to true fans for a fair price of that were the case

Louis proves that it can be done. He also is extremely limited to the venues he can perform. Its still a good ole boys club in the music industry and very few venues and promoters would agree to this. PJ is way too big to be playing the Paramount.

TOD in Seattle is a combination of the industry and huge huge supply and demand. Do the math for the Paramount. 2000 seats. Everyone goes for a pair. Even if all the tickets in the venue were available, they are not, about 1000 people are getting seats if lucky. How many people are going for them? Conservatively I'd say a million people. 0.1% chance of getting tickets. In reality there were only around 500-600 tickets available for the public sale. Same math........0.025% chance of getting a ticket.

riley540

Eddieredder said:

riley540 said:

kasedoug said:

They're basically just trying to cut out the secondary market by pricing their tickets at what they perceive the market value to be. At $100 per ticket, lots more people would want tickets than there would be tickets available so when those tickets are sold out, fans that still want them would have to find tickets on the secondary market priced at those higher amounts.

Louis CK the Comedian has a good solution for his live shows. I buought tickets to see him $50 each for great seats. I have to show up at the venue with ID to get my tickets the day of. No stub hub or anything like that can sell tickets for his shows.
Even temple of the dog tickets for Seattle are insanely high. They should just make it so you have to show ID to enter. All the tickets would have been sold to true fans for a fair price of that were the case

Louis proves that it can be done. He also is extremely limited to the venues he can perform. Its still a good ole boys club in the music industry and very few venues and promoters would agree to this. PJ is way too big to be playing the Paramount.

TOD in Seattle is a combination of the industry and huge huge supply and demand. Do the math for the Paramount. 2000 seats. Everyone goes for a pair. Even if all the tickets in the venue were available, they are not, about 1000 people are getting seats if lucky. How many people are going for them? Conservatively I'd say a million people. 0.1% chance of getting tickets. In reality there were only around 500-600 tickets available for the public sale. Same math........0.025% chance of getting a ticket.

Somehow I scored a single ticket to the Sunday Seattle temple show. I'm pumped The be in the building. I didn't even try for a pair

Indifference71

Omaha_Jammer said:

riley540 said:

SR91748 said:

Bummer. I'd like to see Coldplay in Seattle, but I won't pay "lifetime experience" type prices. Appreciate the tip that they're in town. I like what Chris Martin is doing with Global Citizen.

They are playing Century Link which is a massive venue. I'm curious to see if it sells out or not. $90 will get me a seat that makes the band look like ants

ZERO chance this sells out. They may hold back tickets to create the illusion of a sellout....and then release a crap-ton of tickets in the few weeks leading up to the show...but there will be a cornucopia of empty seats.

They will absolutely sell out. Think what you will about Coldplay, but they are one of the biggest bands in the world....check out the attendance figures from this tour. Sold out everywhere around the world....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Head_Full_of_Dreams_Tour

Eddieredder

riley540 said:

Eddieredder said:

riley540 said:

kasedoug said:

They're basically just trying to cut out the secondary market by pricing their tickets at what they perceive the market value to be. At $100 per ticket, lots more people would want tickets than there would be tickets available so when those tickets are sold out, fans that still want them would have to find tickets on the secondary market priced at those higher amounts.

Louis CK the Comedian has a good solution for his live shows. I buought tickets to see him $50 each for great seats. I have to show up at the venue with ID to get my tickets the day of. No stub hub or anything like that can sell tickets for his shows.
Even temple of the dog tickets for Seattle are insanely high. They should just make it so you have to show ID to enter. All the tickets would have been sold to true fans for a fair price of that were the case

Louis proves that it can be done. He also is extremely limited to the venues he can perform. Its still a good ole boys club in the music industry and very few venues and promoters would agree to this. PJ is way too big to be playing the Paramount.

TOD in Seattle is a combination of the industry and huge huge supply and demand. Do the math for the Paramount. 2000 seats. Everyone goes for a pair. Even if all the tickets in the venue were available, they are not, about 1000 people are getting seats if lucky. How many people are going for them? Conservatively I'd say a million people. 0.1% chance of getting tickets. In reality there were only around 500-600 tickets available for the public sale. Same math........0.025% chance of getting a ticket.

Somehow I scored a single ticket to the Sunday Seattle temple show. I'm pumped The be in the building. I didn't even try for a pair

Congrats. You won the lotto!

riley540

Eddieredder said:

riley540 said:

Eddieredder said:

riley540 said:

kasedoug said:

They're basically just trying to cut out the secondary market by pricing their tickets at what they perceive the market value to be. At $100 per ticket, lots more people would want tickets than there would be tickets available so when those tickets are sold out, fans that still want them would have to find tickets on the secondary market priced at those higher amounts.

Louis CK the Comedian has a good solution for his live shows. I buought tickets to see him $50 each for great seats. I have to show up at the venue with ID to get my tickets the day of. No stub hub or anything like that can sell tickets for his shows.
Even temple of the dog tickets for Seattle are insanely high. They should just make it so you have to show ID to enter. All the tickets would have been sold to true fans for a fair price of that were the case

Louis proves that it can be done. He also is extremely limited to the venues he can perform. Its still a good ole boys club in the music industry and very few venues and promoters would agree to this. PJ is way too big to be playing the Paramount.

TOD in Seattle is a combination of the industry and huge huge supply and demand. Do the math for the Paramount. 2000 seats. Everyone goes for a pair. Even if all the tickets in the venue were available, they are not, about 1000 people are getting seats if lucky. How many people are going for them? Conservatively I'd say a million people. 0.1% chance of getting tickets. In reality there were only around 500-600 tickets available for the public sale. Same math........0.025% chance of getting a ticket.

Somehow I scored a single ticket to the Sunday Seattle temple show. I'm pumped The be in the building. I didn't even try for a pair

Congrats. You won the lotto!

Thanks! It's crazy seeing what scalpers are charging. Might as well just sell my seat and retire. Ha ha. I wouldn't miss the show for anything

Zod

riley540 said:

Thanks! It's crazy seeing what scalpers are charging. Might as well just sell my seat and retire. Ha ha. I wouldn't miss the show for anything

I don't think I could of justified spending close to $1000 USD for a pair of tickets. Thankfully a few other 10c'ers helped me out with the CC/Soundgarden presale code (of which I'm a member of both mailing lists, but didn't get my official email with the code until almost a day after the presale happened). Managed to get a pair for night 1 in Seattle and feel very lucky.

edit: I still think GNR's summer tour was a bit clever on the combatting of scalping. Obviously they sold out in the big cities no problem, but many of the other dates didn't sell out. Had they played Arena's they most definitely would of, and would of been a scalpers paradise. Even if some of the stadiums were only 3/4 full, they still made more money than playing an arena (because 30 or 40000 tickets is better than 20000), and there were so many tickets, that scalpers were stuff eating them.

It's a wierd thing. Most bands don't play stadiums because they're hard to sell out. Arena's often don't have enough tickets to address demand. For some reason many bands are adverse to playing a 3/4 sold out stadium. Why not. If the supply of tickets outstrips demand, scalping will be much less of an issue.