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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Anyone notice the similarities nationally and in this thread?

    3 DDDs distort distract delay

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109662932.html

    But her strategy – refuse to confirm the authenticity of the emails, blame Russia for the hack and say little else – has so far successfully defused the impact by avoiding any talk that would keep voters looking at the content of the messages.

    When moderator Chris Wallace asked her about a particular email, for example, she shifted to Russia and Republican opponent Donald Trump’s praise of its leader, Vladimir Putin.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    450 posts since I last visited and in this thread I am SURE that I missed nothing worth my time lol

    The term "blindly following" here makes sense, or the term "willed ignorance". This queen of yours is rigging the election to win, yet her supporters would rather not know the facts. So, when she does win (because the media already presumpted her win), will you and the queen's devoted followers keep your eyes closed when she's reigning as well?
    St Bernie bent the knee already, not us.
    Deflecting (& denying) is all you've got.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    450 posts since I last visited and in this thread I am SURE that I missed nothing worth my time lol

    The term "blindly following" here makes sense, or the term "willed ignorance". This queen of yours is rigging the election to win, yet her supporters would rather not know the facts. So, when she does win (because the media already presumpted her win), will you and the queen's devoted followers keep your eyes closed when she's reigning as well?
    St Bernie bent the knee already, not us.
    Deflecting (& denying) is all you've got.
    Over stated victimization is your specialty.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    my god. with the election all but being over and done, these threads have turned into nothing but a mudslinging clusterfuck.

    see y'all Nov 9th.
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    JC29856 said:

    Anyone notice the similarities nationally and in this thread?

    3 DDDs distort distract delay

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109662932.html

    But her strategy – refuse to confirm the authenticity of the emails, blame Russia for the hack and say little else – has so far successfully defused the impact by avoiding any talk that would keep voters looking at the content of the messages.

    When moderator Chris Wallace asked her about a particular email, for example, she shifted to Russia and Republican opponent Donald Trump’s praise of its leader, Vladimir Putin.

    Deflecting is her specialty. Everything is supposedly Russia's fault.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    JC29856 said:

    Anyone notice the similarities nationally and in this thread?

    3 DDDs distort distract delay

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109662932.html

    But her strategy – refuse to confirm the authenticity of the emails, blame Russia for the hack and say little else – has so far successfully defused the impact by avoiding any talk that would keep voters looking at the content of the messages.

    When moderator Chris Wallace asked her about a particular email, for example, she shifted to Russia and Republican opponent Donald Trump’s praise of its leader, Vladimir Putin.

    Wait, there was more content in your post? I saw DDD and my mind went somewhere else... :/

    We've been saying it for months and months that she dodges the questions and the media. As a matter of fact a few members on this board actually said it was a brilliant move by her to not answer questions and to avoid the media. They actually defended a politician hiding from the press. She went 9 months straight without talking to the press and these clintonites loved it!! Imagine if GWB would have done that?!?! Imagine when she does that while serving as President?!?! WTF is wrong with the clintonites?!?!
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    tonifig8 said:

    JC29856 said:

    Anyone notice the similarities nationally and in this thread?

    3 DDDs distort distract delay

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109662932.html

    But her strategy – refuse to confirm the authenticity of the emails, blame Russia for the hack and say little else – has so far successfully defused the impact by avoiding any talk that would keep voters looking at the content of the messages.

    When moderator Chris Wallace asked her about a particular email, for example, she shifted to Russia and Republican opponent Donald Trump’s praise of its leader, Vladimir Putin.

    Wait, there was more content in your post? I saw DDD and my mind went somewhere else... :/

    We've been saying it for months and months that she dodges the questions and the media. As a matter of fact a few members on this board actually said it was a brilliant move by her to not answer questions and to avoid the media. They actually defended a politician hiding from the press. She went 9 months straight without talking to the press and these clintonites loved it!! Imagine if GWB would have done that?!?! Imagine when she does that while serving as President?!?! WTF is wrong with the clintonites?!?!
    ... and she will do that as president.

    We will know nothing because she won't talk and answer questions, without deflecting and denying. We have to look forward to this for the next four years. It is the people of this country that lose. In a big way.
    Post edited by Free on
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    450 posts since I last visited and in this thread I am SURE that I missed nothing worth my time lol

    The term "blindly following" here makes sense, or the term "willed ignorance". This queen of yours is rigging the election to win, yet her supporters would rather not know the facts. So, when she does win (because the media already presumpted her win), will you and the queen's devoted followers keep your eyes closed when she's reigning as well?
    Oh lordy lol
    The "facts" lol

    You are more dramatic and overdone that an off-Broadway performance of Cats.
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    ....any....day....now.....
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    JC29856 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/24/bernie-sanders-if-my-emails-leaked-there-d-be-mean-things-about-hillary.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

    More of what some of us have been saying all along...

    While expressing his lack of surprise for any of the content revealed by leaked Hillary Clinton campaign emails, Bernie Sanders admitted that if his own campaign staff’s emails were to be hacked, they’d contain substantially unflattering messages about his former Democratic primary rival. “Trust me, if they went into our emails—I suppose which may happen, who knows—I’m sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering about, you know, the Clinton staff,” Sanders said Wednesday, dismissing the current leaks as unsurprising. “That’s what happens in campaigns.” Additionally, Sanders confessed he found it “amusing” that the emails proved what his camp had long claimed: “We said that the Clinton campaign was heavily influencing what the DNC was doing regarding debates, and that’s exactly what had been happening. None of that is a shock to me.”
    Out of all that...thats what you should have highlighted (what i put in italics)

    the system has always been a little tilted, but i think this year the word rigged may actually fit the narrative and it started with HRC having Sanders as a serious threat to the nomination unexpectedly...she will do whatever it takes to become president

    Fair point, offering Bloomberg and Warren a cabinet position to be named later is politics, planting moles in Biden's cabinet is another story. You can even stretch politics to the Sanders mole, but it was obvious the DNC did not play it fair when they are obligated to. If either committee want to lean toward or totally favor a candidate of their choosing, just be honest and up front and say so.

    I agree that the DNC didn't play it fair, but an honest question here - who imposes the obligation to play it fair? Clearly what the DNC did was immoral, but was it illegal? Just like Trump or any fiscally responsible businessperson (or even accountant) will exploit every legal loophole to reduce taxes, every politician exploits legal loopholes to gain power. I don't hold Trump responsible for doing what is best for himself because I do not expect morality from him. I also do not expect morality from a politician, but that then goes back to my question: if a system is corrupt because of what loopholes are open, how do these loopholes get closed, and by who?
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  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    CM189191 said:

    ....any....day....now.....

    I;m sure you're one of those liberals who would be losing your mind right now if these actions were committed by a republican. I've read many of your post regarding Trump..... Such a hypocrite
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    benjs said:

    JC29856 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/24/bernie-sanders-if-my-emails-leaked-there-d-be-mean-things-about-hillary.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

    More of what some of us have been saying all along...

    While expressing his lack of surprise for any of the content revealed by leaked Hillary Clinton campaign emails, Bernie Sanders admitted that if his own campaign staff’s emails were to be hacked, they’d contain substantially unflattering messages about his former Democratic primary rival. “Trust me, if they went into our emails—I suppose which may happen, who knows—I’m sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering about, you know, the Clinton staff,” Sanders said Wednesday, dismissing the current leaks as unsurprising. “That’s what happens in campaigns.” Additionally, Sanders confessed he found it “amusing” that the emails proved what his camp had long claimed: “We said that the Clinton campaign was heavily influencing what the DNC was doing regarding debates, and that’s exactly what had been happening. None of that is a shock to me.”
    Out of all that...thats what you should have highlighted (what i put in italics)

    the system has always been a little tilted, but i think this year the word rigged may actually fit the narrative and it started with HRC having Sanders as a serious threat to the nomination unexpectedly...she will do whatever it takes to become president

    Fair point, offering Bloomberg and Warren a cabinet position to be named later is politics, planting moles in Biden's cabinet is another story. You can even stretch politics to the Sanders mole, but it was obvious the DNC did not play it fair when they are obligated to. If either committee want to lean toward or totally favor a candidate of their choosing, just be honest and up front and say so.
    I agree that the DNC didn't play it fair, but an honest question here - who imposes the obligation to play it fair? Clearly what the DNC did was immoral, but was it illegal? Just like Trump or any fiscally responsible businessperson (or even accountant) will exploit every legal loophole to reduce taxes, every politician exploits legal loopholes to gain power. I don't hold Trump responsible for doing what is best for himself because I do not expect morality from him. I also do not expect morality from a politician, but that then goes back to my question: if a system is corrupt because of what loopholes are open, how do these loopholes get closed, and by who?

    I don't agree with the premise that the DNC was only immoral.
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - G. Orwell
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://blog.erratasec.com/2016/10/yes-we-can-validate-wikileaks-emails.html

    Verifying authenticity of emails explained.

    As you can see, we've proven that DKIM will indeed detect if anybody has "doctored" or "falsified" this email.

    I was just listening to ABC News about this story. It repeated Democrat talking points that the WikiLeaks emails weren't validated. That's a lie. This email in particular has been validated. I just did it, and shown you how you can validate it, too.

    Btw, if you can forge an email that validates correctly as I've shown, I'll give you 1-bitcoin. It's the easiest way of solving arguments whether this really validates the email -- if somebody tells you this blogpost is invalid, then tell them they can earn about $600 (current value of BTC) proving it. Otherwise, no.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    From: Hillary Clinton
    To: Philip Gordon Date: 2012-03-05 00:44 Subject: PUTIN

    UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05793997 Date: 11/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULL From: (iH Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 7:44 AM To: .gordonph@state.goV ; 'sullivanjj@state.gov '
    Subject Putin
    In his victory speech, did he really blame the State Department for trying to defeat him and throw Russia into chaos, as I heard reported this morning?
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    From: Hillary Clinton
    To: wellsag@state.gov Date: 2012-02-18 14:19
    Subject: CONGRATULATIONS!

    UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05794131 Date: 12/31/2015 RELEASE IN FULL From: H Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 9:19 PM To: 'WellsAG@state.gov' .
    Subject Congratulations! Dear Alice,
    I'm so pleased about your next exciting move. And, you're right, we need you at the White House to help plan and execute our Russian strategy post-Putin. We will all miss you in S-land, but are relieved you will not be too far away. Thanks for all your great work on my behalf. It's been a professional and personal pleasure getting to know you. I wish you the very best in all your future endeavors--H
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Micro managing the pliable widget. Say whatever whenever for votes.

    https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/30554

    Attachments
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    Tech blogger finds proof DNC chief's emails weren't 'doctored' despite claims

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/24/tech-blogger-finds-proof-dnc-chiefs-emails-werent-doctored-despite-claims.html#

    Is she being persecuted because she's a Christian?
  • pjalive21
    pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    benjs said:

    JC29856 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/10/24/bernie-sanders-if-my-emails-leaked-there-d-be-mean-things-about-hillary.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

    More of what some of us have been saying all along...

    While expressing his lack of surprise for any of the content revealed by leaked Hillary Clinton campaign emails, Bernie Sanders admitted that if his own campaign staff’s emails were to be hacked, they’d contain substantially unflattering messages about his former Democratic primary rival. “Trust me, if they went into our emails—I suppose which may happen, who knows—I’m sure there would be statements that would be less than flattering about, you know, the Clinton staff,” Sanders said Wednesday, dismissing the current leaks as unsurprising. “That’s what happens in campaigns.” Additionally, Sanders confessed he found it “amusing” that the emails proved what his camp had long claimed: “We said that the Clinton campaign was heavily influencing what the DNC was doing regarding debates, and that’s exactly what had been happening. None of that is a shock to me.”
    Out of all that...thats what you should have highlighted (what i put in italics)

    the system has always been a little tilted, but i think this year the word rigged may actually fit the narrative and it started with HRC having Sanders as a serious threat to the nomination unexpectedly...she will do whatever it takes to become president

    Fair point, offering Bloomberg and Warren a cabinet position to be named later is politics, planting moles in Biden's cabinet is another story. You can even stretch politics to the Sanders mole, but it was obvious the DNC did not play it fair when they are obligated to. If either committee want to lean toward or totally favor a candidate of their choosing, just be honest and up front and say so.
    I agree that the DNC didn't play it fair, but an honest question here - who imposes the obligation to play it fair? Clearly what the DNC did was immoral, but was it illegal? Just like Trump or any fiscally responsible businessperson (or even accountant) will exploit every legal loophole to reduce taxes, every politician exploits legal loopholes to gain power. I don't hold Trump responsible for doing what is best for himself because I do not expect morality from him. I also do not expect morality from a politician, but that then goes back to my question: if a system is corrupt because of what loopholes are open, how do these loopholes get closed, and by who?

    great points all around...and you are right who would be the "checks and balances?"

    I don't think what the DNC was illegal per say it was taking advantage of the system just like your good example with Trump and the loopholes
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