I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ? they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !
I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ? they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !
I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ? they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !
Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !
Godfather.
of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.
MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.
they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
well sir you are an up-standing man of morals and foresight, nobody knows the truth better than you and I for one am glad to be blessed with your presents, vision and astute mind. there, don't say I never said anything nice about you LOL !
Godfather.
Dude, it's Fox News. Not that what you say here about HFD isn't true, lol, you don't need much in the morality, foresight, or quest for truth department to know that Fox is total garbage and it really shouldn't be watched by anyone.
you've never watched foxnews ?
Godfather.
If I had never watched it I would be unqualified to comment. I have watched enough Faux News to be able to understand what they are all about, and went out of my way to do that so I was informed about it. I had never once watched it in my entire life, and then I kept seeing everyone trashing it, so I added it to my channel package (remember it's not a standard channel for us in Canada. We don't have fake news networks like that here unless you go out of your way to pay for it). So I spent some amount of time watching it every time there was something significant happening politically to see if all the trash talk was true or not. And oh my god. Was it ever. If anything, it was even worse than people made it out to be. So I did that for maybe a couple of years. Then I cancelled the channel again. I'd seen enough. Now I only see it when there are video clips posted elsewhere (which is pretty often). Still shocking to me every time. I can't even believe Fox News is legally allowed to operate as a real news network to be honest.
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I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ? they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !
Here is a perfect example of you being duped by Faux News.
The "same legal tax break" they are referring to relates to capital losses. Clinton had some major capital losses in 1995 due to a downturn in the stock market. I assume Trump had the same issue...we don't know...he won't release his returns.
The capital loss is not what resulted in the $1billion loss on Trump's return. Those losses came from business ventures that he was involved in. Not capital losses.
Do you see how they manipulate you? They attempt to make you think that the accusations against Trump are baseless because they are "just like Clinton's"
edit: by the way....capital losses can only offset capital gains plus $3,000 per year. Even if Clinton had a $700,000 loss (not $1billion) she would be limited to an overall deduction of $ 3,000 in 1995. Just like Trump....look at the page provided....it shows a $3,000 capital loss.
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either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
what is your point in that ? anybody here can dismantle any past president with an opinion and believe they are right so setting myself up to play your game based on an opinion would end like most AMT debates, democrats vs. republicans.
either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
Good question? Looking forward to the answers and not just from GF but from any American...
Tough question. In the last 50 years we had Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama. Would need time to think about it. Off the top of my head a top 3 doesn't jump out.
either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
what is your point in that ? anybody here can dismantle any past president with an opinion and believe they are right so setting myself up to play your game based on an opinion would end like most AMT debates, democrats vs. republicans.
Godfather.
because I knew you'd refuse because you can't.
no one gets attacked here because of having informed opinions, regardless of party affiliation.. people here get called out when they spew nonsense they read on a partisan blog or news site. which is why I keep my mouth shut if I don't know what I'm talking about.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
what is your point in that ? anybody here can dismantle any past president with an opinion and believe they are right so setting myself up to play your game based on an opinion would end like most AMT debates, democrats vs. republicans.
Godfather.
Do you have three President's you liked? If not, then why not? I do not think anyone will dismantle your opinions on your 3 favourite presidents? I think you could omit why? It's a great question?
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I'm going with: Carter Obama Kennedy.
Time warp.
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either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
what is your point in that ? anybody here can dismantle any past president with an opinion and believe they are right so setting myself up to play your game based on an opinion would end like most AMT debates, democrats vs. republicans.
Godfather.
because I knew you'd refuse because you can't.
no one gets attacked here because of having informed opinions, regardless of party affiliation.. people here get called out when they spew nonsense they read on a partisan blog or news site. which is why I keep my mouth shut if I don't know what I'm talking about.
Reagan Bush Sr. Clinton (life was good when he was Pres.)
either way she's a snake man, if she wins this election I'll just wait another 4 to 8 years and hope for someone better to come along.
Godfather.
It'll be 4. For sure.
Many said the same for Obama.
yeah..............we got royally screwed on that deal, the Unions and the public, what a flip floppy lying son of a bitch .
Godfather.
please name your top 3 presidents of the past 50 years and why.
what is your point in that ? anybody here can dismantle any past president with an opinion and believe they are right so setting myself up to play your game based on an opinion would end like most AMT debates, democrats vs. republicans.
Godfather.
Do you have three President's you liked? If not, then why not? I do not think anyone will dismantle your opinions on your 3 favourite presidents? I think you could omit why? It's a great question?
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The "same legal tax break" they are referring to relates to capital losses. Clinton had some major capital losses in 1995 due to a downturn in the stock market. I assume Trump had the same issue...we don't know...he won't release his returns.
The capital loss is not what resulted in the $1billion loss on Trump's return. Those losses came from business ventures that he was involved in. Not capital losses.
Do you see how they manipulate you? They attempt to make you think that the accusations against Trump are baseless because they are "just like Clinton's"
edit: by the way....capital losses can only offset capital gains plus $3,000 per year. Even if Clinton had a $700,000 loss (not $1billion) she would be limited to an overall deduction of $ 3,000 in 1995. Just like Trump....look at the page provided....it shows a $3,000 capital loss.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Godfather.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
we will find a way, we will find our place
In 4 years your choices will be the same, a democrat or republican...and the same evil policies can carry on...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Godfather.
Godfather.
-EV 8/14/93
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Godfather.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
2. Clinton
3. Bush 1
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
no one gets attacked here because of having informed opinions, regardless of party affiliation.. people here get called out when they spew nonsense they read on a partisan blog or news site. which is why I keep my mouth shut if I don't know what I'm talking about.
-EV 8/14/93
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Carter
Obama
Kennedy.
Time warp.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Bush Sr.
Clinton (life was good when he was Pres.)
why would you say I can't ?
Godfather.
Godfather.