does the Media control your vote ?

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited October 2016 in A Moving Train
I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    If the government is controlling the media, then whoever is assigned to Fox is asleep at the wheel.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    edited October 2016

    If the government is controlling the media, then whoever is assigned to Fox is asleep at the wheel.

    :rofl:

    no, it's their comedy division.
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  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Controlled opposition.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    All US media is privately owned and biased by 6 corporations unless it is independent.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,033
    The media does control what we hear and see on TV and on the internet. How much that affects one's vote depends on how widely one reads. You really can't get a clear picture viewing one media source. If you view several, you get a more clear picture. If you view several and read books, even more clear. If you do all those and go out and observe the world, even better focus.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    GF, common sense and integrity control my vote.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    brianlux said:

    The media does control what we hear and see on TV and on the internet. How much that affects one's vote depends on how widely one reads. You really can't get a clear picture viewing one media source. If you view several, you get a more clear picture. If you view several and read books, even more clear. If you do all those and go out and observe the world, even better focus.

    If you don't view any media, don't watch tv, but read and research from credible sources, you're best off. Even when people think the media doesn't affect them, but watch it on a daily basis, you are manipulated. It's all psychologically driven.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well, I do see many leaning towards blogs and opinion pieces to support/supplant their views, so one could consider any influence to be a form of manipulation.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hedonist said:

    GF, common sense and integrity control my vote.

    no doubt about that my friend !

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    Yes it's very odd. Fox News only gives you about half of what is going on.
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  • lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

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  • lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited October 2016
    so Fox News never discussed the Iraq war 2004-2008, pretty sure at some point in between those years most Americans no longer supported the war, I honestly don't know, I have no cable news...
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
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  • lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,145

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Posts: 36,982
    edited October 2016
    benjs said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
    I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    Yes it's very odd. Fox News only gives you about half of what is going on.
    And makes up the rest out of thin air.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    I seen FOXNEWS slam Trump and Hilary.

    Godfather.

  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    benjs said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
    I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
    well sir you are an up-standing man of morals and foresight, nobody knows the truth better than you and I for one am glad to be blessed with your presents, vision and astute mind.
    there, don't say I never said anything nice about you LOL !

    Godfather.

  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    edited October 2016

    benjs said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
    I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
    well sir you are an up-standing man of morals and foresight, nobody knows the truth better than you and I for one am glad to be blessed with your presents, vision and astute mind.
    there, don't say I never said anything nice about you LOL !

    Godfather.

    Dude, it's Fox News. Not that what you say here about HFD isn't true, lol, you don't need much in the morality, foresight, or quest for truth department to know that Fox is total garbage and it really shouldn't be watched by anyone.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    The media is all the same, they all have an agenda...I'm old enough to remember when the evening news was the main source of the news...seems like they spent time just reporting the news, now the news is about inserting ones opinion in the news, 24 hour news is a joke...
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  • Fox News is kind of like CNN and Jerry Springer spliced.

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    Toward the end of John Lydon's marvelous book Anger is an Energy, Lydon talks about how he is now an early to bed, early to rise kind of guy and one of the things he like about that is he likes the early morning CNN news reports because they are more detailed due to the censors not having gotten to the reports yet and he believes he is getting more of the full story. Interesting. I would check it out but I'm rarely up that early. (Wish I could get away with just sleep 1 AM to 5 AM!)
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  • DegeneratefkDegeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    If you're allowing yourself to be swayed one way or the other by any news source,you probably should just stay home on election day.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    benjs said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
    I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
    well sir you are an up-standing man of morals and foresight, nobody knows the truth better than you and I for one am glad to be blessed with your presents, vision and astute mind.
    there, don't say I never said anything nice about you LOL !

    Godfather.

    Dude, it's Fox News. Not that what you say here about HFD isn't true, lol, you don't need much in the morality, foresight, or quest for truth department to know that Fox is total garbage and it really shouldn't be watched by anyone.
    you've never watched foxnews ?

    Godfather.

  • benjs said:

    lukin2006 said:

    I was reading (between the lines) and just wondered do we realize as regular "joe" citizens really let the media control or at least inspire our political decisions ?
    they are the biggest game in town when it comes to gathering political info and I guess you could go to one of those "trusted" political news cites to help you
    make up your mind, for instance I was reading this morning that in 1995 Hillary used the same legal tax break Trump has used then there's the teen girl trump
    allegedly forced her to have sex with him ? so anyway I believe the media is controlled by our government for the most part (secretly ?) LOL !

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/10/03/newt-gingrich-elite-media-is-hillary-clinton-are-terrified-trump.html

    Godfather.

    Of course not directly, indirectly sure ... corporations control the government and corporations control the media and that's how they control the message ...
    for most American's the only source for info is the T.V or trusty interweb and I find it odd that different stations and web sites lean to one side or the other, shouldn't they just deliver the news ?........you might think that comment coming from a guy who watches FOXNEWS is odd LOL !

    Godfather.

    of course they "should". but when news outlets are owned by incredibly wealthy individuals and not independent institutions, they want the networks they own to mirror their own beliefs.
    That's true to some degree. But I can guarantee you that there isn't a network other than Fox that will completely ignore certain stories that don't favor their candidate.

    MSNBC is probably considered the most "liberal" network. You won't find them ignoring the email stories, Clinton Foundation "pay to play" stories, Hillary being "sick" stories, etc. The other day someone even posted a clip from Chris Matthew's show (a rabid liberal) where he explained the attraction to Trump.

    they don't ignore them, but they might not go after them with the same vitriol or vigour as maybe they should, no?
    take a look at Fox News' facebook page....nothing about New York shutting down the Trump foundation. Just one example
    fox news is a joke. I will not take a look at their facebook page. how anyone can watch that garbage for anything but pure entertainment or to incite themselves into a psychotic frenzy is beyond me.
    If you want to understand the rationale of the populace though, don't you feel that you owe it to yourself to consume (and test the validity of) what a good chunk of people are consuming?
    I get enough of that type of idiocy on social media and right here on AMT. I don't need to tune into fox to dumb myself down any further. all the info is there without having to seek it out.
    well sir you are an up-standing man of morals and foresight, nobody knows the truth better than you and I for one am glad to be blessed with your presents, vision and astute mind.
    there, don't say I never said anything nice about you LOL !

    Godfather.

    and the point of this comment is....what exactly? I never claim to know everything. I sit and read on AMT more than I comment. There are more threads I stay out of than I participate in because I know they are out of my league. I'll readily admit there are many times I'm reading comments between members here and I literally have zero idea what they are talking about, so I try to figure it out without commenting.

    give it a shot sometime.
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