Syria and the US's Motive

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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Syrian and Russian forces defeat Isis in deir error

    https://southfront.org/overview-of-battle-for-deir-ezzor-city-on-september-6-2017-map/

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-video-isis-bodies-destroyed-tanks-vehicles-artillery-lay-scattered-across-deir-ezzor/
  • CM189191
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    JC29856 said:
    Syrian and Russian forces defeat Isis in deir error

    https://southfront.org/overview-of-battle-for-deir-ezzor-city-on-september-6-2017-map/

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-video-isis-bodies-destroyed-tanks-vehicles-artillery-lay-scattered-across-deir-ezzor/
    Have you ever noticed that all the news sources you link to have the same exact web page format?  Any idea as to why that might be?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Syrian and Russian forces defeat Isis in deir error

    https://southfront.org/overview-of-battle-for-deir-ezzor-city-on-september-6-2017-map/

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-video-isis-bodies-destroyed-tanks-vehicles-artillery-lay-scattered-across-deir-ezzor/
    Have you ever noticed that all the news sources you link to have the same exact web page format?  Any idea as to why that might be?
    Makes propaganda web page design easy, one size fits all?
     
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  • JC29856
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    CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Syrian and Russian forces defeat Isis in deir error

    https://southfront.org/overview-of-battle-for-deir-ezzor-city-on-september-6-2017-map/

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/graphic-video-isis-bodies-destroyed-tanks-vehicles-artillery-lay-scattered-across-deir-ezzor/
    Have you ever noticed that all the news sources you link to have the same exact web page format?  Any idea as to why that might be?

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-abrahms-glaser-isis-assad-20171210-story,amp.html

    John Bolton, former United Nations ambassador under George W. Bush, insisted in the New York Times that “defeating the Islamic State” is “neither feasible nor desirable” if Assad remains in power. Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham asserted that “defeating Islamic State also requires defeating Bashar Assad.” Kenneth Pollack of the Brookings Institution prescribed a policy of “building a new Syrian opposition army capable of defeating both President Bashar al-Assad and the more militant Islamists.” Similarly, Max Boot, a contributing writer to this newspaper, argued that vanquishing Islamic State was futile unless the U.S. also moved to depose the “Alawite regime in Damascus.” Like other regime-change salesmen, he pitched a no-fly zone across the country to facilitate airstrikes against the Assad government, while boosting aid to the so-called moderate rebels.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    formatted sites

    For a while, everywhere one looked, the media was peddling the same narrative. The Daily Beast described Islamic State fighters as “Assad’s henchmen.” The New York Timespromoted the idea that “Assad’s forces” have been “aiding” Islamic State by “not only avoiding” the group “but actively seeking to bolster their position.” Time parroted the pro-regime-change line that “Bashar Assad won't fight” Islamic State.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Sunday jogged the memory of the Western partner about their "successes" in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan in comment to French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drina’s statement that Russia has "arrogated" the defeat of Islamic State (a terrorist organization outlawed in Russia) in Syria.

    "The Western partners have been saying in the recent days that it was not Russia but them, the coalition to defeat Islamic State in Syria. The last to say this was French Foreign Minister Mr. Le Drian," she wrote on her Facebook account. "Dear Sirs, stop it! Your successes are Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Come on, be proud of them."

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    JC29856 said:

    Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova on Sunday jogged the memory of the Western partner about their "successes" in Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan in comment to French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drina’s statement that Russia has "arrogated" the defeat of Islamic State (a terrorist organization outlawed in Russia) in Syria.

    "The Western partners have been saying in the recent days that it was not Russia but them, the coalition to defeat Islamic State in Syria. The last to say this was French Foreign Minister Mr. Le Drian," she wrote on her Facebook account. "Dear Sirs, stop it! Your successes are Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. Come on, be proud of them."

    Someone got their directive, herr comrade?
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  • JC29856
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    ISIS busters hugging it out!

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/putin-meets-assad-russian-military-base-surprise-visit-syria-official-video/
  • JC29856
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    Assad: "This victory and the arrival of President Vladimir Putin is a great display of honour for me. And I'm very happy about your arrival, your first visit to Syria in such times on this matter. It is a great honour for me."
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    anyone have an update on the millions of gentiles in Damascus this time of year?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    JC29856 said:
    anyone have an update on the millions of gentiles in Damascus this time of year?
    Morel falafel 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The motive is to placate Putin on the ritz.

    Team Trump Treason imploring Turkey to be “humane.” Are you kidding me? There’s not an ounce of humanity in that empty suit. What do you suggest the Turks do Team Trump Treason? Shoot them with popcorn and cotton candy?

    And speaking of Cotton, is the roaring warrior ready to publicly back Team Trump Treason’s abandonment of the Kurds? C’mon Tom, you’re all in, right? Sucker.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    Baffoon a total coward leaving these folks to be slaughtered ! 
    Is this still America? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    edited October 2019
    josevolution said:
    Baffoon a total coward leaving these folks to be slaughtered ! 
    Is this still America? 
    No, a province of Russia, Russia, Russia. Or is territory? Maybe republic of?
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  • oftenreading
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    josevolution said:
    Baffoon a total coward leaving these folks to be slaughtered ! 
    Is this still America? 
    No, a Provence of Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I do like Provence, though.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,105
    oftenreading said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    josevolution said:
    Baffoon a total coward leaving these folks to be slaughtered ! 
    Is this still America? 
    No, a Provence of Russia, Russia, Russia.

    I do like Provence, though.
    I rather than e, particularly after v. I remember now.
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  • Meltdown99
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    Why should US military personnel always be put in harm's way to protect people in faraway lands?  Especially the middle east and its endless wars.

    Those of you here who think young Americans should always risk their lives in the middle east are free to join the Kurds and their fight...just 40 minutes down the road a young man from Canada died fighting with the Kurds.  And if you are too old to join I hope you are encouraging your kids or grandkids to join the fight.  Or do you ONLY like sacrificing OTHER people?  






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  • mrussel1
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    Meltdown99 said:
    Why should US military personnel always be put in harm's way to protect people in faraway lands?  Especially the middle east and its endless wars.

    Those of you here who think young Americans should always risk their lives in the middle east are free to join the Kurds and their fight...just 40 minutes down the road a young man from Canada died fighting with the Kurds.  And if you are too old to join I hope you are encouraging your kids or grandkids to join the fight.  Or do you ONLY like sacrificing OTHER people?  






    They're not in harm's way,  that's the point. The presence of these 1000 troops deterred action by Turkey.  In the ISIS fight,  we lost less than 10 men.  The Kurds lost over 10k.
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    And your argument is a false premise.  They weren't drafted.  There's no mystery or bait and switch about what it means to join today's US military. 

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