Syria and the US's Motive

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:


    I'll stick with the Allied powers, you can stick with the Axis side.

    axis side?
    how do you describe this factual history?

    https://sarahabed.com/2017/04/21/the-us-crusader-of-democracy/
    We've been through this Russia vs US discussion before. Do you really want to start it back up? Drowning made a comment about the "Allies"...a reference to WWII. That was my response.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    and what are the apologists saying about the bomb attack on the buses leaving aleppo? ... the terrorists lured children out of buses with potato chips then bombed them ... these are the people the Syrian gov't is fighting on the ground ... THIS IS NOT A CIVIL WAR ... where in ANY of the news do you see an opposing syrian force!?? ... NONE ... only Al Qaeda and ISIS ...

    I don't think anyone has defended that horrific attack. Just because I hate the Russian/Syrian/Iran alliance doesn't mean I support terrorism. They all suck.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    If someone had proof Assad used chemical weapons against its own people, it would have surfaced by now. Where is it?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/middleeast/syria-chemical-attack-sarin-opcw/

    There's proof that sarin gas was used. Considering the equipment needed to manufacture, the highly volatile nature of the compound, the fact that it was delivered by air AND the very short shelf life of the product, makes it pretty clear already where it came from. Last I checked, ISIS wasn't flying around in jets delivering payloads.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    and what are the apologists saying about the bomb attack on the buses leaving aleppo? ... the terrorists lured children out of buses with potato chips then bombed them ... these are the people the Syrian gov't is fighting on the ground ... THIS IS NOT A CIVIL WAR ... where in ANY of the news do you see an opposing syrian force!?? ... NONE ... only Al Qaeda and ISIS ...

    I don't think anyone has defended that horrific attack. Just because I hate the Russian/Syrian/Iran alliance doesn't mean I support terrorism. They all suck.
    sooo ... Syria is fighting these fucks ... why on earth would they drop chemical weapons on their own civilians? ... c'mon people!!
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:


    I'll stick with the Allied powers, you can stick with the Axis side.

    axis side?
    how do you describe this factual history?

    https://sarahabed.com/2017/04/21/the-us-crusader-of-democracy/
    We've been through this Russia vs US discussion before. Do you really want to start it back up? Drowning made a comment about the "Allies"...a reference to WWII. That was my response.
    this is about showing people that there is a pattern of propaganda that is used to convince the world how evil these countries are in order to justify the intervention and regime change ... it's why people should have very little trust in the narrative put forth by a gov't that has no credibility when it comes to democracy and peace ...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    and what are the apologists saying about the bomb attack on the buses leaving aleppo? ... the terrorists lured children out of buses with potato chips then bombed them ... these are the people the Syrian gov't is fighting on the ground ... THIS IS NOT A CIVIL WAR ... where in ANY of the news do you see an opposing syrian force!?? ... NONE ... only Al Qaeda and ISIS ...

    I don't think anyone has defended that horrific attack. Just because I hate the Russian/Syrian/Iran alliance doesn't mean I support terrorism. They all suck.
    sooo ... Syria is fighting these fucks ... why on earth would they drop chemical weapons on their own civilians? ... c'mon people!!
    Right because there's never been a dictator in history who has killed his own people... totally unprecedented. Boggles the mind, in fact.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:


    I'll stick with the Allied powers, you can stick with the Axis side.

    axis side?
    how do you describe this factual history?

    https://sarahabed.com/2017/04/21/the-us-crusader-of-democracy/
    We've been through this Russia vs US discussion before. Do you really want to start it back up? Drowning made a comment about the "Allies"...a reference to WWII. That was my response.
    this is about showing people that there is a pattern of propaganda that is used to convince the world how evil these countries are in order to justify the intervention and regime change ... it's why people should have very little trust in the narrative put forth by a gov't that has no credibility when it comes to democracy and peace ...
    I don't need mainstream media or propaganda to know Russia's history.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    So you are saying there was no attack... the UN inspectors just fabricated. Everyone's in on the ruse. Got it.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    lol
    Do you even time zone?
    11:30 pm April 3rd in New York would be 6:30am April 4th in Syria
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited April 2017
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    lol
    Do you even time zone?
    11:30 pm April 3rd in New York would be 6:30am April 4th in Syria
    NO! Tim said "case closed". It's closed.

    When you put Assad on the headline of your Twitter page, you've got fucking problems. And is that Chavez next to him? Seriously I'm not sure but it may be.
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    edited April 2017
    mrussel1 said:

    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    lol
    Do you even time zone?
    11:30 pm April 3rd in New York would be 6:30am April 4th in Syria
    NO! Tim said "case closed". It's closed.

    When you put Assad on the headline of your Twitter page, you've got fucking problems. And is that Chavez next to him? Seriously I'm not sure but it may be.
    Except idlib is ahead of New York. Are the Idlib white helmets based out of New York? You guys are confusing me.
    If the tweet came out of Syria 11:30 April 3, would that not make it 4:30 April 3 in New York?
    Dignin - my reply to you was in criticism of the article, not you. It's irresponsible journalism to run a non-story like that, imo. France says they have proof...click....They say they do, but haven't shown it yet. They are investigating. They are telling us nothing new, just underscoring the same old shit, and throwing in those pretty rocket pictures. Most people only read headlines these days - that headline is deceptive - it could be read as 'France has proof' if you were only casually interested(as most are). That was my problem with it.
    Busy, but I still want to get back to you mrrussel.
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    In the meantime, let's watch some total bullshit Russian propaganda, from foreign sources we should never trust...Chris hedges, max blumenthal, Ben norton...total Syrian propaganda from lightweight journos. I know it's not as credible as a defector, but please...put it on in the background while ya browse.

    https://youtu.be/e6C249jh7wQ
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    lol
    Do you even time zone?
    11:30 pm April 3rd in New York would be 6:30am April 4th in Syria
    Drowned Out said:

    In the meantime, let's watch some total bullshit Russian propaganda, from foreign sources we should never trust...Chris hedges, max blumenthal, Ben norton...total Syrian propaganda from lightweight journos. I know it's not as credible as a defector, but please...put it on in the background while ya browse.

    https://youtu.be/e6C249jh7wQ

    You mean that guy on Pravda TV... I mean Russia Today? Okay dude. It's fucking state run media.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Every time you post one of those, it's pretty easy to retort with the anchor who quits on air for "white washing Putin's actions"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55izx6rbCqg
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    and what are the apologists saying about the bomb attack on the buses leaving aleppo? ... the terrorists lured children out of buses with potato chips then bombed them ... these are the people the Syrian gov't is fighting on the ground ... THIS IS NOT A CIVIL WAR ... where in ANY of the news do you see an opposing syrian force!?? ... NONE ... only Al Qaeda and ISIS ...

    I don't think anyone has defended that horrific attack. Just because I hate the Russian/Syrian/Iran alliance doesn't mean I support terrorism. They all suck.
    sooo ... Syria is fighting these fucks ... why on earth would they drop chemical weapons on their own civilians? ... c'mon people!!
    Right because there's never been a dictator in history who has killed his own people... totally unprecedented. Boggles the mind, in fact.
    do you have proof syrian elections were fraudulent? on what basis do you identify assad as a dictator? ... the guy who took power within a dictatorship and then reformed the electoral process to free elections of which close to 80% of syrians participated ... why would a dictator bring in elections?

    aside from that - you continue to show very little rational ... if Syria/Assad are at war with invading terrorists groups such as Al Qaeda and ISIS - why would he not have used chemical weapons against ISIS? or Al Qaeda? show me some reasoning ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    mrussel1 said:


    I'll stick with the Allied powers, you can stick with the Axis side.

    axis side?
    how do you describe this factual history?

    https://sarahabed.com/2017/04/21/the-us-crusader-of-democracy/
    We've been through this Russia vs US discussion before. Do you really want to start it back up? Drowning made a comment about the "Allies"...a reference to WWII. That was my response.
    this is about showing people that there is a pattern of propaganda that is used to convince the world how evil these countries are in order to justify the intervention and regime change ... it's why people should have very little trust in the narrative put forth by a gov't that has no credibility when it comes to democracy and peace ...
    I don't need mainstream media or propaganda to know Russia's history.
    the issue isn't russian history ... it's us history that you continue to ignore
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    mrussel1 said:

    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    So you are saying there was no attack... the UN inspectors just fabricated. Everyone's in on the ruse. Got it.
    un inspectors did not report the attack ... get some facts please!!! ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    CM189191 said:

    polaris_x said:

    here's additional evidence of fraud ...



    white helmets posts about attack well before attack actually happened
    lol
    Do you even time zone?
    11:30 pm April 3rd in New York would be 6:30am April 4th in Syria
    where the cuss are you getting NY ... idlib white helmets twitter says they are in Syria ...

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