September 11th, 2001

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    comatose2016 said:

    I do apologize for going off track here - I guess I'm just a little frustrated. It won't happen again.
    Enjoy your day everyone.

    Comatose it's alright we all make mistakes I know I've made mine on here debating with other PJC members on other boards and mostly here on the train. I've asked some of the questions you were asking but if you were driven to ask about this huge subject you could've simply started a thread of your own or a thread that previously talked about this subject in depth. I've left AMT before for various reasons (disliked having to pay to be here) but eventually came back. I hope you won't leave over this you seem sincere so I will forgive for what has been done.

    Peace & STYHUMN

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,667
    comatose2016 said:

    I do apologize for going off track here - I guess I'm just a little frustrated. It won't happen again.
    Enjoy your day everyone.

    No worries and no big deal and sorry if I came across as thread cop- not meaning to. The 9/11 theories are interesting and worth discussing on the old thread.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    16 years ago we found out the incredible power of hate, hopefully soon the world can see the even greater power of love.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    comatose2016 said:
    I know I said I was done here, but feel this is too important. I hope we can at least all agree: 1) If non-government involvement: a crime was committed without a crime investigation. No one has ever been charged with the crime. Our military was ordered to stand down - why? 2) If government involvement: our government can do whatever the hell it pleases and get away with it - so what will they do next? Both of these seem ok with everyone, sorry if I'm a little wigged out but neither one seems very good to me which is why an investigation is necessary - it is really sad that a huge crime like this has to be investigated by the citizens who resort to name calling and questioning each others character. The fact is, there are no crazy questions about this event - that is the whole 'open your mind' thing. Are we not supposed to question anything? I ask anyone who is really interested to spend about 3 minutes and decide for yourselves if you should continue to seek justice or not. This is a video about some dude's path down the conspiracy theory trail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3q8zYRypoY First, at 1:17:02 - a guy on the street who has just seen the towers fall and he already knows exactly what happened Next, at 1:25:24-1:28:48 - he has discovered that there were indeed explosives so there must be something going on that he just can't understand, but it's ok, so what if 3000 people died, I'm going to go back to my life and be happy. The end. Ok, I'm out - peace all.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,615
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,511
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,511
    edited September 2017
    https://youtu.be/lWHW3UGMr8s
    Post edited by Bentleyspop on
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Bentleyspop said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
    I posted a blurb about families filing suit against the Saudis but it didn't show.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Bentleyspop said:
    https://youtu.be/lWHW3UGMr8s
    6 years ago today I was getting molested at PHL airport on my way to Toronto.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,755
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
    I posted a blurb about families filing suit against the Saudis but it didn't show.
    Oh boy, I forgot about that. I don't know where that stands now, but it sure would set a terrible precedent if they succeed with that.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617


    something funky happening with posting

    post 911 deaths and cancers

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/health/9-11-cancer-first-responders-father-son/index.html

    http://thechiefleader.com/news/news_of_the_week/related-death-toll-continues-rise-nationally/article_657a4e80-2444-11e7-9f5b-3380b58ad6b4.html
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/09/10/robert-mueller-obstruct-congresss-911-probe/

    We also know, thanks to public agitation around this question, that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia had substantial involvement in the 9/11 attacks. The campaign to reveal the redacted portions of the Joint CongressionalInquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11 was partially successful, although there is still much the government is keeping from the American people. What we learned from the pages that were revealed is that Saudi government employees aided and directed at least two of the hijackers – and that Prince Bandar al Sultan, then Saudi ambassador to the United States, was at the center of the spider web that ensnared the nation on 9/11.

    Now a lawsuit brought by some of the 9/11 families reveals that, a full two years before 9/11, the Saudi government funded a “dry run” designed to test airline security. As Paul Sperry reports in the New York Post:

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,511
    From the first post on this thread....Share stories, thoughts and respect here.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
    I posted a blurb about families filing suit against the Saudis but it didn't show.
    Oh boy, I forgot about that. I don't know where that stands now, but it sure would set a terrible precedent if they succeed with that.
    how so?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,755
    edited September 2017
    JC29856 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
    I posted a blurb about families filing suit against the Saudis but it didn't show.
    Oh boy, I forgot about that. I don't know where that stands now, but it sure would set a terrible precedent if they succeed with that.
    how so?
    Well, it would open the door to people filing suit against the USA for bombing attacks that kill civilians, which happen all the time, and would also open the door to all governments being held responsible for terrorist attacks. The intricate web that can be said to connect governments to terrorism is a really huge web.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    JC29856 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Poor taste to bump after comatose apologized. 
    It should come as no surprise you, me, or anyone else on here that has been paying attention that the poster above would do something in poor taste. Especially today of all days. When thousands of families around this country, the world, and on here are remembering, mourning, and celebrating the lives of those lost and injured on that horrific day.
    I posted a blurb about families filing suit against the Saudis but it didn't show.
    Oh boy, I forgot about that. I don't know where that stands now, but it sure would set a terrible precedent if they succeed with that.
    how so?
    Well, it would open the door to people filing suit against the USA for bombing attacks that kill civilians, which happen all the time, and would also open the door to all governments being held responsible for terrorist attacks. The intricate web that can be said to connect governments to terrorism is a really huge web.
    good point... unlikely to happen. war crimes go unpunished.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,667
    My wife and I are fans of the 70's TV series, Kojak.  The twin towers show up in several of the views of NYC.  In fact, in the episode we watched last night, Kojak was in one of the twin towers getting a health check up.  It's weird to see those images. Telly Savalis and several others of the cast are gone, the towers are gone.  NYC and the world have changed-- in many cases, in difficult ways.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    Bentleyspop said:
    From the first post on this thread....Share stories, thoughts and respect here.


  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    brianlux said:
    My wife and I are fans of the 70's TV series, Kojak.  The twin towers show up in several of the views of NYC.  In fact, in the episode we watched last night, Kojak was in one of the twin towers getting a health check up.  It's weird to see those images. Telly Savalis and several others of the cast are gone, the towers are gone.  NYC and the world have changed-- in many cases, in difficult ways.
    not to get off topic but watching old 70s shows can be thought provoking eye opening. check out a few episodes of all in the family Sanford and son or odd couple.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,140
    Today we mark the 16th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. There was a moment of silence at work today and all across the country people had different ceremonies commemorating this horrific event. Just like Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination we all remember where we were when they happened.  
    For years there were moments of silence and ceremonies commemorating Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination; my question is, should there continue to be moments of silence or the reading of nearly 3,000 people who died on that day? How many years after the event do we stop?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......

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