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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
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    Obama's second inauguration. 
    What's your point? Flying flags in government from a historical perspective is far different than a private company choosing what they want to put on their product. Nobody is saying we should pretend the flag doesn't exist.
    that's funny, since you just stated the exact same argument folks had for keeping monuments and confederate flags from the civil war era in government. 

    "historical perspective". 
    What does the confederate flag have to do with this? Governments taking down confederate monuments is no where in the same league as a company choosing not to associate their brand and product with something. If Nike was trying to get the flag taken down from government institutions you may have a point.

    That's what we call a strawman.
    oh, the strawman again, haha. I wasn't comparing the two (nike and government) at all. my comment was addressing the part where you stated that it is ok to fly a flag in government from a historical perspective. did you support the removal of the confederate flag and monuments from government buildings?
    You are making an argument against an argument I have not made. Textbook straw man.

    I didn't say it was "ok" to fly any flag, you are making that up. I haven't said if I think it's right or wrong. I said it was very different, and to compare what a business does and what a government does in this regard is stupid.

    I'm not the one talking about confederate flags and monuments, you are. Again, decisions by governments and decisions by businesses are made differently.

    And what difference does it make if I did or did not support the removal of confederate monuments? It's completely irrelevant to the point I've made.

    Also, if you weren't comparing Nike to the government, why post that picture at all? 
    add another one to the list. 
    If you can't bother to make a coherent response I'm not going to waste my time.


    added to the list. 
    Steve Buscemi People To Kill GIF
    Buscemi, lol!  Cool!
    Always Mr. Pink. 
    He will always be fucking Donny to me.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
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    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Obama's second inauguration. 
    What's your point? Flying flags in government from a historical perspective is far different than a private company choosing what they want to put on their product. Nobody is saying we should pretend the flag doesn't exist.
    that's funny, since you just stated the exact same argument folks had for keeping monuments and confederate flags from the civil war era in government. 

    "historical perspective". 
    What does the confederate flag have to do with this? Governments taking down confederate monuments is no where in the same league as a company choosing not to associate their brand and product with something. If Nike was trying to get the flag taken down from government institutions you may have a point.

    That's what we call a strawman.
    oh, the strawman again, haha. I wasn't comparing the two (nike and government) at all. my comment was addressing the part where you stated that it is ok to fly a flag in government from a historical perspective. did you support the removal of the confederate flag and monuments from government buildings?
    You are making an argument against an argument I have not made. Textbook straw man.

    I didn't say it was "ok" to fly any flag, you are making that up. I haven't said if I think it's right or wrong. I said it was very different, and to compare what a business does and what a government does in this regard is stupid.

    I'm not the one talking about confederate flags and monuments, you are. Again, decisions by governments and decisions by businesses are made differently.

    And what difference does it make if I did or did not support the removal of confederate monuments? It's completely irrelevant to the point I've made.

    Also, if you weren't comparing Nike to the government, why post that picture at all? 
    add another one to the list. 
    If you can't bother to make a coherent response I'm not going to waste my time.


    added to the list. 
    Steve Buscemi People To Kill GIF
    Buscemi, lol!  Cool!
    Always Mr. Pink. 
    He will always be fucking Donny to me.
    Ah.. true.  Reservoir Dogs was something I watched 50 times when it came out. I think I was 20. So a few years before Lebowski
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
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    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Obama's second inauguration. 
    What's your point? Flying flags in government from a historical perspective is far different than a private company choosing what they want to put on their product. Nobody is saying we should pretend the flag doesn't exist.
    that's funny, since you just stated the exact same argument folks had for keeping monuments and confederate flags from the civil war era in government. 

    "historical perspective". 
    What does the confederate flag have to do with this? Governments taking down confederate monuments is no where in the same league as a company choosing not to associate their brand and product with something. If Nike was trying to get the flag taken down from government institutions you may have a point.

    That's what we call a strawman.
    oh, the strawman again, haha. I wasn't comparing the two (nike and government) at all. my comment was addressing the part where you stated that it is ok to fly a flag in government from a historical perspective. did you support the removal of the confederate flag and monuments from government buildings?
    You are making an argument against an argument I have not made. Textbook straw man.

    I didn't say it was "ok" to fly any flag, you are making that up. I haven't said if I think it's right or wrong. I said it was very different, and to compare what a business does and what a government does in this regard is stupid.

    I'm not the one talking about confederate flags and monuments, you are. Again, decisions by governments and decisions by businesses are made differently.

    And what difference does it make if I did or did not support the removal of confederate monuments? It's completely irrelevant to the point I've made.

    Also, if you weren't comparing Nike to the government, why post that picture at all? 
    add another one to the list. 
    If you can't bother to make a coherent response I'm not going to waste my time.


    added to the list. 
    Steve Buscemi People To Kill GIF
    Buscemi, lol!  Cool!
    Always Mr. Pink. 
    He will always be fucking Donny to me.
    Is this how your remember him?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,650
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Obama's second inauguration. 
    What's your point? Flying flags in government from a historical perspective is far different than a private company choosing what they want to put on their product. Nobody is saying we should pretend the flag doesn't exist.
    that's funny, since you just stated the exact same argument folks had for keeping monuments and confederate flags from the civil war era in government. 

    "historical perspective". 
    What does the confederate flag have to do with this? Governments taking down confederate monuments is no where in the same league as a company choosing not to associate their brand and product with something. If Nike was trying to get the flag taken down from government institutions you may have a point.

    That's what we call a strawman.
    oh, the strawman again, haha. I wasn't comparing the two (nike and government) at all. my comment was addressing the part where you stated that it is ok to fly a flag in government from a historical perspective. did you support the removal of the confederate flag and monuments from government buildings?
    You are making an argument against an argument I have not made. Textbook straw man.

    I didn't say it was "ok" to fly any flag, you are making that up. I haven't said if I think it's right or wrong. I said it was very different, and to compare what a business does and what a government does in this regard is stupid.

    I'm not the one talking about confederate flags and monuments, you are. Again, decisions by governments and decisions by businesses are made differently.

    And what difference does it make if I did or did not support the removal of confederate monuments? It's completely irrelevant to the point I've made.

    Also, if you weren't comparing Nike to the government, why post that picture at all? 
    add another one to the list. 
    If you can't bother to make a coherent response I'm not going to waste my time.


    added to the list. 
    Steve Buscemi People To Kill GIF
    Buscemi, lol!  Cool!
    Always Mr. Pink. 
    What's the reference?  Also, what film is the gif from?  Not sure I've seen it (or forgot), and I really like Buscemi's work!
    Mr Pink is from Reservoir Dogs.

    The Gif is from Billy Madison


    Cool, thanks!
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    dignin said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Obama's second inauguration. 
    What's your point? Flying flags in government from a historical perspective is far different than a private company choosing what they want to put on their product. Nobody is saying we should pretend the flag doesn't exist.
    that's funny, since you just stated the exact same argument folks had for keeping monuments and confederate flags from the civil war era in government. 

    "historical perspective". 
    What does the confederate flag have to do with this? Governments taking down confederate monuments is no where in the same league as a company choosing not to associate their brand and product with something. If Nike was trying to get the flag taken down from government institutions you may have a point.

    That's what we call a strawman.
    oh, the strawman again, haha. I wasn't comparing the two (nike and government) at all. my comment was addressing the part where you stated that it is ok to fly a flag in government from a historical perspective. did you support the removal of the confederate flag and monuments from government buildings?
    You are making an argument against an argument I have not made. Textbook straw man.

    I didn't say it was "ok" to fly any flag, you are making that up. I haven't said if I think it's right or wrong. I said it was very different, and to compare what a business does and what a government does in this regard is stupid.

    I'm not the one talking about confederate flags and monuments, you are. Again, decisions by governments and decisions by businesses are made differently.

    And what difference does it make if I did or did not support the removal of confederate monuments? It's completely irrelevant to the point I've made.

    Also, if you weren't comparing Nike to the government, why post that picture at all? 
    add another one to the list. 
    If you can't bother to make a coherent response I'm not going to waste my time.


    added to the list. 
    Steve Buscemi People To Kill GIF
    Buscemi, lol!  Cool!
    Always Mr. Pink. 
    He will always be fucking Donny to me.
    Is this how your remember him?
    Haha, perfect gif.
  • otter
    otter Posts: 772
    He is not cool 
    I found my place......and it's alright
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,650
    otter said:
    He is not cool 
    Sometimes he's hot...


    ...and sometimes he's c-c-cold...

    ...and sometimes he's co-o-o-l!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni











  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ^HA
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,797
    Nike stock is up again.
    Valuation up $3B.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,288
    $3,000,000,000

    That's how much money Nike made in a complete in-house manufactured controversy in less then a week.  three billion dollars. 

    I hope everyone had fun getting into huge arguments with their relatives while eating hot dogs over the holiday.  I hope Kap got his 10% fee from Nike, but not likely.  Nike is playing him as a fool too. 


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,441
    edited July 2019
    Jason P said:
     Nike is playing him as a fool too.  

    What I read back when they did that viral ad with "Kap" was that Nike was planning/Wanted to drop him after his controversy with the NFL. But Nikes ad agency convinced them to still use him. So, if that is the case - the ad agency and not Nike saw the potential in "Kap" as a face for the brand.

    Smart move either way. Ofc.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Jason P said:
    $3,000,000,000

    That's how much money Nike made in a complete in-house manufactured controversy in less then a week.  three billion dollars. 

    I hope everyone had fun getting into huge arguments with their relatives while eating hot dogs over the holiday.  I hope Kap got his 10% fee from Nike, but not likely.  Nike is playing him as a fool too. 


    I don't think that's an accurate assessment.  If you're using market cap as the metric, the stock performed in line with every other index last week.  Nike was up 2.7%, S&P was up 2.4.  Today their market cap is 139 billion.  It makes sense that they were 136 billion a week ago.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    Image may contain shoes text that says NIKES LATEST SHOE RELEASE
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,441
    mcgruff10 said:
    Image may contain shoes text that says NIKES LATEST SHOE RELEASE
    So what subreddit did you pick up that pic from?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,608
    I can’t even figure out who’s supposed to be the snowflakes here...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,807
    OnWis97 said:
    I can’t even figure out who’s supposed to be the snowflakes here...
    It’s pretty much everyone on the extreme ends. So both 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2019
    Read and watch what this gold star mom had to say about the whole issue.
    https://ijr.com/gold-star-mom-takes-swing-kaepernick-american-flag/
    This old wheel keeps on rolling down the road.
    But this mom makes some very good points it's worth a listen and a read.


    Post edited by RYME on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,650
    edited July 2019
    You know what's really weird and irritating as hell?  Every time (and I mean every time) this thread comes up on my notifications, I hear in my head some school chum from long ago chanting, "Rah rah ree/ kick 'em in the knee/ Rah rah rass/ kick 'em in the other knee".
    :anguished:


    :lol:
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Whenever Ryme says it's worth a listen and read.  pass

    Especially from ijr.com  LOL

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