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What you should think when going to a show

ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
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People remember their favorite shows as being perfect nights, anything negative about it being blocked from memory. Then they go to shows and compare them to that perfect night, creating insane expectations that will never be reached.

I say treat every concert like it's your first. From someone who's only been to one PJ concert, I can assure you that I've done this 100% of the time and it has worked fabulously for me.

Don't try to recreate something you've already experienced, take in the show as a completely different experience every time. It isn't your 10th, 15th, 30th, 50th show. It's your first show. You've never seen that show, and you will never see it again, so enjoy it.


PS to anyone considering making a complaint thread, here's some advice:
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  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    Are you drunk?
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    ldent42 said:

    Are you drunk?

    nope, just sick of people complaining about the dumbest of things, especially about shows. Every time i read something like that I just can't help but think that my mind would be absolutely blown if I were there; and this person is whining about the most minor of things.
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  • shetellsherselfshetellsherself Posts: 8,818
    edited August 2016
    ehbacon said:

    ldent42 said:

    Are you drunk?

    nope, just sick of people complaining about the dumbest of things, especially about shows. Every time i read something like that I just can't help but think that my mind would be absolutely blown if I were there; and this person is whining about the most minor of things.
    I totally agree with you! Live in the moment and appreciate it for what it is, not what you expect it to be. I've never left a pj show disappointed. Every single show was special for some reason. I'm grateful for every show I've attended
    Post edited by shetellsherself on
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  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Posts: 4,810
    Hear hear :clap: !
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,680
    very good advice. Sometimes people get too caught up in song-chasing and setlist-comparing. I went through a string where I was caught up in it a bit. So much better just going and enjoying.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,825
    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,185
    Indifference71 said:

    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.

    Don't you tell me that I can't tell others how to enjoy a show... You've got some nerve!

  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,243
    ehbacon said:

    ldent42 said:

    Are you drunk?

    nope, just sick of people complaining about the dumbest of things, especially about shows. Every time i read something like that I just can't help but think that my mind would be absolutely blown if I were there; and this person is whining about the most minor of things.
    I approve this message!
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited August 2016
    Indifference71 said:

    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.

    you might be the person that he is talking about :lol:

    Anyway about the thread itself I never compare shows, you just cant do it...im just happy that im afforded the opportunity to be in the building and try and share that with someone new every time or at least with someone that will appreciate the experience

    Post edited by pjalive21 on
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,825
    pjalive21 said:

    Indifference71 said:

    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.

    you might be the person that he is talking about :lol:


    LOL. I actually kinda agree with the OP but this thread title is just laughable. Telling people how to think?? I love PJ but this place is just flat out ridiculous sometimes.
  • SuziemaySuziemay Posts: 11,168
    You're not the boss of me! :tongue:
  • Who I AmWho I Am Posts: 661
    I've never left a PJ show disappointed. The same can not be said for almost all other bands.
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  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Posts: 4,810
    Indifference71 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Indifference71 said:

    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.

    you might be the person that he is talking about :lol:


    LOL. I actually kinda agree with the OP but this thread title is just laughable. Telling people how to think?? I love PJ but this place is just flat out ridiculous sometimes.
    I don't believe the OP was trying to be bossy - taking it too literal - I took it as "hey here's an option"

    See how I did that on my own :smiley: with my own brain.
    Oh please let it rain today.
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  • hsohihsohi Posts: 1,033
    You should also think about where you are going to park.
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  • pearldavidsonpearldavidson Posts: 1,366
    You should think how you want to think.
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,989
    MayDay10 said:

    very good advice. Sometimes people get too caught up in song-chasing and setlist-comparing. I went through a string where I was caught up in it a bit. So much better just going and enjoying.

    I am definitely guilty of that. I need to appreciate what I am hearing more. Rather than "oh joy Eldery Woman again" (sarcasm). I should appreciate it as I did 21 years ago. I won't have that many more chances. I can be excited to get a new song. It was OK of me to lose my freaking mind the first time I heard Breath. But if I am thinking about what's next during Evenflow, I am missing out to a degree.

    Good advice, though easier said than done.
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  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Posts: 4,810
    You NEVER know how they're going to play the song. How many times have we heard evenflow? Doesn't matter I immediately think sweeeet maybe Matt will solo ....what's Mike gonna do tonite???

    You may get YL a lot buuuttttt what's the tag gonna be??? Will there be a tag??? Will YL really be the closer???
    Oh please let it rain today.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,243
    Suziemay said:

    You're not the boss of me! :tongue:

    My 3 year old says that and quite frankly, some of this forum's members behave just like her. Full grown ass adults. Jeeeeez!!!
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,243
    OnWis97 said:

    MayDay10 said:

    very good advice. Sometimes people get too caught up in song-chasing and setlist-comparing. I went through a string where I was caught up in it a bit. So much better just going and enjoying.

    I am definitely guilty of that. I need to appreciate what I am hearing more. Rather than "oh joy Eldery Woman again" (sarcasm). I should appreciate it as I did 21 years ago. I won't have that many more chances. I can be excited to get a new song. It was OK of me to lose my freaking mind the first time I heard Breath. But if I am thinking about what's next during Evenflow, I am missing out to a degree.

    Good advice, though easier said than done.
    I just don't understand song chasing. Going to shows JUST to hear a song you've been spending gobs of money chasing? In this way and others I love the OPs comments about just going to the show and enjoying it for what it is, not what it wasn't.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    FoxyRedLa said:

    Indifference71 said:

    pjalive21 said:

    Indifference71 said:

    I love people telling others how they should enjoy a show. Great stuff.

    you might be the person that he is talking about :lol:


    LOL. I actually kinda agree with the OP but this thread title is just laughable. Telling people how to think?? I love PJ but this place is just flat out ridiculous sometimes.
    I don't believe the OP was trying to be bossy - taking it too literal - I took it as "hey here's an option"

    See how I did that on my own :smiley: with my own brain.
    I need video or photographical proof that you did that on your own!!! :liar: ha

  • FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Posts: 4,810
    :lol:
    Oh please let it rain today.
    Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
  • seanwonseanwon Posts: 444
    2-feign-reluctance said:


    I just don't understand song chasing. Going to shows JUST to hear a song you've been spending gobs of money chasing? In this way and others I love the OPs comments about just going to the show and enjoying it for what it is, not what it wasn't.

    I am definitely a song chaser, so Fenway 1 was a dream show for me, but nothing is ruined for me if I don't get a new song. At MSG 2, other than that Cheap Trick cover, I had heard every other song they played before, but I still had the time of my life. It just becomes a little more special if you happen to catch that song you've always wanted to hear. But yeah, I don't understand people who would be disappointed if they don't get new rarities at every show.

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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    edited August 2016
    Im still chasing Red Mosquito and after it being scratched in Boston, its happening in Wrigley and im going to do whatever it takes to hear it!!!!!!! :rock_on:

    and if I don't ill still have a great time in the city of Chicago
  • derbydavederbydave Posts: 11,254
    I don't consider myself a song "chaser"...
    but I do enjoy looking at my stats and seeing which songs I need to finish albums!!
    I think Ed refers to us as "serious collectors." :rock_on:
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,185
    derbydave said:

    I don't consider myself a song "chaser"...
    but I do enjoy looking at my stats and seeing which songs I need to finish albums!!
    I think Ed refers to us as "serious collectors." :rock_on:

    Do I get extra points for finishing an album again?!?
  • derbydavederbydave Posts: 11,254
    edited August 2016
    tempo_n_groove said:

    derbydave said:

    I don't consider myself a song "chaser"...
    but I do enjoy looking at my stats and seeing which songs I need to finish albums!!
    I think Ed refers to us as "serious collectors." :rock_on:

    Do I get extra points for finishing an album again?!?
    Nope...
    but you can get a trophy in the PJ Stat Tracker app!! :wink:
    I sent your pin late last week buddy...
    should be there soon!!
    Post edited by derbydave on
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    '00: Columbus: Polaris
    '03: Columbus: Germain
    '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
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    '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
    '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
    '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
    '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
    '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
    '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,897
    edited August 2016
    derbydave said:

    I don't consider myself a song "chaser"...
    but I do enjoy looking at my stats and seeing which songs I need to finish albums!!
    I think Ed refers to us as "serious collectors." :rock_on:

    That's true.
    If I see a song that I've never seen before it's great, and I do want to hear as many PJ songs live as I can in my lifetime. However, if I'm actually at a show it would never even cross my mind to think about the setlist or what's wrong with it. I am lost in the moment at any concert. If something that I consider really special happens to be played I go ape shit, but in the end I really don't care what PJ plays when I'm there to see them.... as long as it's not Ole. :lol:;)
    What I care more about is when they play just a phenomenal, amazing bunch of songs that I would love to see.... and I'm not at the show. Which is almost every single show, lol.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859
    PJ_Soul said:

    derbydave said:

    I don't consider myself a song "chaser"...
    but I do enjoy looking at my stats and seeing which songs I need to finish albums!!
    I think Ed refers to us as "serious collectors." :rock_on:

    That's true.
    If I see a song that I've never seen before it's great, and I do want to hear as many PJ live as I can in my lifetime. However, if I'm actually at a show it would never even cross my mind to think about the setlist or what's wrong with it. I am lost in the moment at any concert. If something that I consider really special happens to be played I go ape shit, but in the end I really don't care what PJ plays when I'm there to see them.... as long as it's not Ole. :lol:;)
    What I care more about is when they play just a phenomenal, amazing bunch of songs that I would love to see.... and I'm not at the show. Which is almost every single show, lol.
    summed it up perfectly, PJS.

    Just like assuming everyone with a GA ticket is sleeping on the sidewalk to get rail, there is absolutely no reason to think that someone who is "chasing" a particular song is ONLY going to shows to hear that song, or spending gobs of money to do so. There's always a song I hope to hear, always. If it plays, the elation that I feel in that moment is both indescribable and inimitable. If that song doesn't get played, after the show I've usually forgotten about it because I'm super excited about something else that DID.
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  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 1,334
    The new normal here!! Complaining about show, merch line, crowd, security, video film quality, 10c ticket sales, 10c seat, etc....... AND THEN. Complaining about the complainers! AND NOW, LIKE ME RIGHT NOW, complaining about the people that complain about the complainers...Jesus Christ!! Have your own experiences and own relationship with the band and the music and let everyone else to the same...CHEERS
  • VOLAREVOLARE Posts: 314
    I recall going to a show years ago and thinking it felt flat and I thought they weren't into it. A few years later I picked up the bootleg and was blown away at how good the show was. I laughed to myself that it was me! I must've been tired or having an off day. The boot is a fav of mine now.
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