PJ Needs to Vary Setlist (Encores) for Fenway and Wrigley Shows
Hi all,
I am only going to Fenway 2 but after seeing the band 3 times this tour, I think it is time to vary the setlist a little. It was the first time ever I felt I had seen the same encores and almost the same show put on by PJ. For the most part the main sets have been great, but my problem is the encores. Every first encore ends with Porch and begins with Ed / the band playing slow songs, most main sets end with Do The Evolution, and of course every concert ends with the humdrum rotation of Alive into Baba O Riley / Rockin In The Free World into Yellow Ledbetter or Indifference (or something of that form).
I think it would be a breath of fresh air to change it up. Come out with a song like Wishlist or In Hiding for the first encore or end the main set with Alive or end the show with something like Elderly Woman --> Given To Fly --> Yellow Led Better or throw Black or Porch into the middle of the main set. I just think it would be awesome to see a change.
I am only going to Fenway 2 but after seeing the band 3 times this tour, I think it is time to vary the setlist a little. It was the first time ever I felt I had seen the same encores and almost the same show put on by PJ. For the most part the main sets have been great, but my problem is the encores. Every first encore ends with Porch and begins with Ed / the band playing slow songs, most main sets end with Do The Evolution, and of course every concert ends with the humdrum rotation of Alive into Baba O Riley / Rockin In The Free World into Yellow Ledbetter or Indifference (or something of that form).
I think it would be a breath of fresh air to change it up. Come out with a song like Wishlist or In Hiding for the first encore or end the main set with Alive or end the show with something like Elderly Woman --> Given To Fly --> Yellow Led Better or throw Black or Porch into the middle of the main set. I just think it would be awesome to see a change.
Camden 2 (2008)
Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
Newark (2010)
MSG 1 (2010)
Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
Philly 2 (2013)
Greenville (2016)
Columbia (2016)
MSG 2 (2016)
Fenway 2 (2016)
EV NJPAC (2022)
MSG (2022)
Denver (2022)
Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
Newark (2010)
MSG 1 (2010)
Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
Philly 2 (2013)
Greenville (2016)
Columbia (2016)
MSG 2 (2016)
Fenway 2 (2016)
EV NJPAC (2022)
MSG (2022)
Denver (2022)
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I don't think we will see much similarity in any of the four shows IMO0
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As long as Pearl Jam plays Pearl Jam songs, I will be a happy Pearl Jam fan.0
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I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.
I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
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^^ Agreed, I felt very fortunate to see All or None and Parachutes on this last tour during those quiet encore moments. In fact, I might look forward to that part of the show the most as you never know what you're gonna get.
But completely agree with RVM and Porch. Love em, but I don't like knowing when a set is about to end, variety would be cool.1992-07-21 Vancouver
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Good call op. I m only going to one show but I would love to see different encores.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do
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Same here. I could hear RVM a thousand times and it wouldn't be enough. And I like the slow start to the second encore too. Always a rare little gem thrown in there! I do get sad when I hear Alive, though, because it means the end is near.FrankieG said:I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.
I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.I'll ride the wave where it takes me...Orlando 4/24/92 & 8/23/92, Miami 3/28/94, Ft Laud 10/7/96, Alpine Valley 6/26/98, Missoula 9/30/12, EV Jax 11/24/12 & 11/25/12, Chicago (Wrigley) 7/19/13, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Tulsa 10/8/14, Lincoln 10/9/14, Denver 10/22/14, Jacksonville 4/12/16, Greenville 4/16/16, Telluride 7/9/16, Boston (Fenway) 8/5/16 & 8/7/16, Seattle (Safeco) 8/10/18, Boston (Fenway) 9/2/18 & 9/4/18, Dana Point 10/1/21 & 10/2/21, MSG 9/11/22, Denver 9/22/22, Austin 9/18/23 & 9/19/23.0 -
OP might get stoned to death.0
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It cracks me up to see people complain when others talk about the band on a forum designed for such discussion.PillowPants said:pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do
cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play
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saw 5 shows this year and i couldn't even begin to complain about anything0
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^thisPillowPants said:pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do
cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to playChicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/160 -
They could easily play both shows with zero repeats... but they won't... and I don't blame them, these shows are a big deal and they will try to put on the biggest and best show they can both nights... this is why I'm completely content with just going to 1 show at FenwayPost edited by my2hands on0
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End the show with anything but YLed. I wouldn't mind them retiring that song for a while, so it would make it special again when they eventually pull it out of the blue.Ed...buddy...pal...stay true to your word and play Boise again.
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PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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Maybe its time to start seeing the band less?And so you see, I have come to doubt
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I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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I wish they'd put the choppy intro to Porch away for a while.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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Pearl Jam has been around for too long and fans are getting tired.
They should spare us all from having to listen to their music over and over again.
Pearl Jam please retire.
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BlackPJ_Soul said:PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.
Alive
RITFW or Baba
Yellow Ledworse
Usually one other song but those 4 are almost a guarantee in the final encore.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250
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