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PJ Needs to Vary Setlist (Encores) for Fenway and Wrigley Shows

ruggs1996ruggs1996 Posts: 586
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Hi all,
I am only going to Fenway 2 but after seeing the band 3 times this tour, I think it is time to vary the setlist a little. It was the first time ever I felt I had seen the same encores and almost the same show put on by PJ. For the most part the main sets have been great, but my problem is the encores. Every first encore ends with Porch and begins with Ed / the band playing slow songs, most main sets end with Do The Evolution, and of course every concert ends with the humdrum rotation of Alive into Baba O Riley / Rockin In The Free World into Yellow Ledbetter or Indifference (or something of that form).

I think it would be a breath of fresh air to change it up. Come out with a song like Wishlist or In Hiding for the first encore or end the main set with Alive or end the show with something like Elderly Woman --> Given To Fly --> Yellow Led Better or throw Black or Porch into the middle of the main set. I just think it would be awesome to see a change.
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,898
    I don't think we will see much similarity in any of the four shows IMO
  • whoanelly15whoanelly15 Posts: 740
    As long as Pearl Jam plays Pearl Jam songs, I will be a happy Pearl Jam fan.
  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.

    I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.
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  • mwplummwplum Posts: 1,531
    ^^ Agreed, I felt very fortunate to see All or None and Parachutes on this last tour during those quiet encore moments. In fact, I might look forward to that part of the show the most as you never know what you're gonna get.

    But completely agree with RVM and Porch. Love em, but I don't like knowing when a set is about to end, variety would be cool.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,481
    Good call op. I m only going to one show but I would love to see different encores.
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  • PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,877
    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play
  • PorchgirlCOPorchgirlCO Posts: 1,375
    FrankieG said:

    I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.

    I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.

    Same here. I could hear RVM a thousand times and it wouldn't be enough. And I like the slow start to the second encore too. Always a rare little gem thrown in there! I do get sad when I hear Alive, though, because it means the end is near.
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  • pearldavidsonpearldavidson Posts: 1,367
    OP might get stoned to death.
  • FlameryFlamery Posts: 258
    PillowPants said:

    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play

    It cracks me up to see people complain when others talk about the band on a forum designed for such discussion.
  • fsu2626fsu2626 Posts: 371
    Indifference, Smile, Breath would be nice
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  • weddingparadeweddingparade Posts: 1,179
    saw 5 shows this year and i couldn't even begin to complain about anything
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Posts: 1,786
    PillowPants said:

    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play

    ^this
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2016
    They could easily play both shows with zero repeats... but they won't... and I don't blame them, these shows are a big deal and they will try to put on the biggest and best show they can both nights... this is why I'm completely content with just going to 1 show at Fenway
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  • Jerome230Jerome230 Posts: 903
    End the show with anything but YLed. I wouldn't mind them retiring that song for a while, so it would make it special again when they eventually pull it out of the blue.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,946
    PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.
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  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Maybe its time to start seeing the band less?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,946
    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    I wish they'd put the choppy intro to Porch away for a while.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Pearl Jam has been around for too long and fans are getting tired.
    They should spare us all from having to listen to their music over and over again.
    Pearl Jam please retire.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.

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    RITFW or Baba
    Yellow Ledworse

    Usually one other song but those 4 are almost a guarantee in the final encore.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 Posts: 2,818
    Jerome230 said:

    End the show with anything but YLed. I wouldn't mind them retiring that song for a while, so it would make it special again when they eventually pull it out of the blue.

    ^^^^^ Only suggestion I have...other than that I'm just glad they are still around to debate playlist

  • Pearl34JamPearl34Jam Posts: 1,102
    At first I thought this topic would be whining and complaining, but you brought up a great point.

    A little change in these next 4 shows couldn't hurt.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    PJ_Soul said:

    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.

    So a band that you rarely see and haven't seen many times at all you would not want to hear the songs that you think they repeat too much? What?
    Which encore songs did they play at the concert you saw?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,946
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.

    So a band that you rarely see and haven't seen many times at all you would not want to hear the songs that you think they repeat too much? What?
    Which encore songs did they play at the concert you saw?
    I'm not arguing about this with you.
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  • EnterThanmanEnterThanman Posts: 1,057
    Flamery said:

    PillowPants said:

    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play

    It cracks me up to see people complain when others talk about the band on a forum designed for such discussion.
    I'm going to assume the OP understands this and is merely opening a discussion about something he'd like to see happen.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance Posts: 23,277
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.

    So a band that you rarely see and haven't seen many times at all you would not want to hear the songs that you think they repeat too much? What?
    Which encore songs did they play at the concert you saw?
    I'm not arguing about this with you.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,946
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.

    So a band that you rarely see and haven't seen many times at all you would not want to hear the songs that you think they repeat too much? What?
    Which encore songs did they play at the concert you saw?
    I'm not arguing about this with you.
    Forum heavyweight matchup right here!
    :lol: That cracked me up.
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  • jp307677jp307677 Posts: 417
    They can do whatever they want. Some people are getting spoiled and greedy.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,481
    HesCalledDyer said:

    I wish they'd put the choppy intro to Porch away for a while.

    I totally agree with this!
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  • kramer73kramer73 Posts: 2,614
    They'll get right on that. I'm OK with whatever they play.
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