PJ Needs to Vary Setlist (Encores) for Fenway and Wrigley Shows

ruggs1996
ruggs1996 Posts: 586
Hi all,
I am only going to Fenway 2 but after seeing the band 3 times this tour, I think it is time to vary the setlist a little. It was the first time ever I felt I had seen the same encores and almost the same show put on by PJ. For the most part the main sets have been great, but my problem is the encores. Every first encore ends with Porch and begins with Ed / the band playing slow songs, most main sets end with Do The Evolution, and of course every concert ends with the humdrum rotation of Alive into Baba O Riley / Rockin In The Free World into Yellow Ledbetter or Indifference (or something of that form).

I think it would be a breath of fresh air to change it up. Come out with a song like Wishlist or In Hiding for the first encore or end the main set with Alive or end the show with something like Elderly Woman --> Given To Fly --> Yellow Led Better or throw Black or Porch into the middle of the main set. I just think it would be awesome to see a change.
Camden 2 (2008) 
Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
Newark (2010)
MSG 1 (2010)
Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
Philly 2 (2013)
Greenville (2016)
Columbia (2016)
MSG 2 (2016)
Fenway 2 (2016)
EV NJPAC (2022)
MSG (2022)
Denver (2022)
Tagged:
«13

Comments

  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    I don't think we will see much similarity in any of the four shows IMO
  • whoanelly15
    whoanelly15 Posts: 742
    As long as Pearl Jam plays Pearl Jam songs, I will be a happy Pearl Jam fan.
  • FrankieG
    FrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.

    I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • mwplum
    mwplum Posts: 1,544
    ^^ Agreed, I felt very fortunate to see All or None and Parachutes on this last tour during those quiet encore moments. In fact, I might look forward to that part of the show the most as you never know what you're gonna get.

    But completely agree with RVM and Porch. Love em, but I don't like knowing when a set is about to end, variety would be cool.
    1992-07-21 Vancouver
    1993-9-4 Vancouver
    1996-9-16 Seattle
    1998-7-19 Vancouver, 7-21 Seattle, Memorial Stadium
    2000-11-6 Seattle
    2001-10-22 Seattle
    2002 -12-09 Seattle
    2009-8-17 Manchester, 9-25 Vancouver
    2011-6-16 Seattle (EV), 9-3/4 PJ20, 9-25 Vancouver
    2012-6-27 Amsterdam (#2!)
    2013-11-29 Portland, 12-4 Vancouver, 12-6 Seattle
    2014-AUS - 1-26 Sydney, 1-31 Adelaide, 2-11/12 EV Sydney State Theatre, 2-13 EV Opera House
    2014 - USA - Memphis, Detroit, MOLINE, St. Paul, MILWAUKEE, Denver, 25/26 Bridge School
    2016 - Lexington, Philly x 2, MSG x 2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto x 2, Pemberton, Fenway x 2, Wrigley x 2
    2018 - Seattle x 2, Missoula, Fenway x 2
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,139
    Good call op. I m only going to one show but I would love to see different encores.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PillowPants
    PillowPants Posts: 4,877
    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play
  • PorchgirlCO
    PorchgirlCO Colorado Posts: 1,377
    FrankieG said:

    I agree that ending the first set with RVM and the 1st encore with Porch has gotten a little overdone. But I still really love those songs, so I'm semi ok with always hearing them, just need to move them to a different spot in the set.

    I like the slow songs in the beginning of the 1st encore, you usually get a pretty rare one that you have been chasing awhile.

    Same here. I could hear RVM a thousand times and it wouldn't be enough. And I like the slow start to the second encore too. Always a rare little gem thrown in there! I do get sad when I hear Alive, though, because it means the end is near.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me...

    Orlando 4/24/92 & 8/23/92, Miami 3/28/94, Ft Laud 10/7/96, Alpine Valley 6/26/98, Missoula 9/30/12, EV Jax 11/24/12 & 11/25/12, Chicago (Wrigley) 7/19/13, Charlottesville 10/29/13, Charlotte 10/30/13, Tulsa 10/8/14, Lincoln 10/9/14, Denver 10/22/14, Jacksonville 4/12/16, Greenville 4/16/16, Telluride 7/9/16, Boston (Fenway) 8/5/16 & 8/7/16, Seattle (Safeco) 8/10/18, Boston (Fenway) 9/2/18 & 9/4/18, Dana Point 10/1/21 & 10/2/21, MSG 9/11/22, Denver 9/22/22, Austin 9/18/23 & 9/19/23.
  • pearldavidson
    pearldavidson Posts: 1,703
    OP might get stoned to death.
  • Flamery
    Flamery New York Posts: 258

    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play

    It cracks me up to see people complain when others talk about the band on a forum designed for such discussion.
  • fsu2626
    fsu2626 Posts: 400
    Indifference, Smile, Breath would be nice
  • weddingparade
    weddingparade Posts: 1,179
    saw 5 shows this year and i couldn't even begin to complain about anything
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876

    pearl jam doesn't NEED to do anything but whatever they want to do

    cracks me up when people try to tell the band what to play

    ^this
    Chicago 6/29/98, Alpine Valley(EV) 6/13/99, Alpine Valley 10/08/00, Chicago 10/09/00, Phoenix 10/20/00, Orlando 4/12/03, Tampa 4/13/03, San Diego 6/05/03, Vegas 6/06/03, Phoenix 6/07/03, Chicago 6/18/03, Alpine Valley 6/21/03, Orlando 10/08/04, D.C. 10/11/04, Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, LA 7/12/08, Chicago 8/23/09, Chicago 8/24/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09 (Front Row Center, Finally), Phoenix(EV) 11/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Phoenix 11/19/13, Denver 10/22/14, Wrigley 8/20/16, Wrigley 8/22/16
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2016
    They could easily play both shows with zero repeats... but they won't... and I don't blame them, these shows are a big deal and they will try to put on the biggest and best show they can both nights... this is why I'm completely content with just going to 1 show at Fenway
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • Jerome230
    Jerome230 Posts: 903
    End the show with anything but YLed. I wouldn't mind them retiring that song for a while, so it would make it special again when they eventually pull it out of the blue.
    Ed...buddy...pal...stay true to your word and play Boise again.

    Seattle, 12.7.93
    Salt Lake, 6.21.98
    Mountain View, 10.30.99
    Mountain View, 10.31.99
    Boise, 11.3.00
    Portland, 9.26.09
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,748
    PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Maybe its time to start seeing the band less?
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,748
    I rarely see the band though, and haven't seen them many times at all, and I still feel that way. Why would they close their shows with the same stuff all the time, year in and year out? It doesn't make sense to me, especially for Pearl Jam.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Pearl Jam has been around for too long and fans are getting tired.
    They should spare us all from having to listen to their music over and over again.
    Pearl Jam please retire.
    Mods make it happen.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,493
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ 2nd encores are definitely where they need the most work. They are way too predictable and repetitive.

    Black
    Alive
    RITFW or Baba
    Yellow Ledworse

    Usually one other song but those 4 are almost a guarantee in the final encore.