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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Thank you.
    Double thank you.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Very true. The sheriff has no clue about violence against cops.....yeah ok.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    You must be new to amt if you think people back up their opinion with data and research.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    :dizzy:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Yes, and as PJSoul pointed out, it doesn't matter.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    You must be new to amt if you think people back up their opinion with data and research.
    Haha. Sure.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    dignin said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Yes, and as PJSoul pointed out, it doesn't matter.
    funny how different people can interpret statistics in different ways:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Very true. The sheriff has no clue about violence against cops.....yeah ok.
    What are you talking about?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    So there isn't an anti cop sentiment amongst black people across the country?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    So there isn't an anti cop sentiment amongst black people across the country?
    Sure there is. Not even just amongst black people. What is your point though?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    So there isn't an anti cop sentiment amongst black people across the country?
    Sure there is. Not even just amongst black people. What is your point though?
    Besides blacks, where is this anti cop sentiment? Because I m not really seeing anywhere except amongst blacks.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    dignin said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Doesn't make his point any less valid.
    Yes it does.

    His point is his opinion. An opinion not backed up by the data and research.
    So there isn't an anti cop sentiment amongst black people across the country?
    I would say probably, which under the circumstances would be reasonable.

    He claims there is no problem with racism in PD's.....which flys in the face of the evidence.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Yes, and as PJSoul pointed out, it doesn't matter.
    funny how different people can interpret statistics in different ways:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114
    I fail to see how this video is relevant. It doesn't touch on racial bias.

    And am I also to assume from the video that when the police murder civilians it's no big deal because of how much contact they have with the population? We shouldn't criticize them because the civilian population is violent? We shouldn't look to find problems within PD's to try and make them better at their jobs?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Irrelevant, since they site and link to 18 studies. Anyone on the face of the planet could do the same thing, and it would be no less relevant than if the New York Times did it.
    I disagree since a reputable news agency would check the facts (how the research was done) and others may not.
    I found this article to be lacking details, and coming up with some ridiculous conclusions. One of the top first sources they cite them as saying "the only thing thing that significant in predicting whether the person shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black."
    That's ridiculous because every single case I have seen where someone was shot and killed and unarmed they either resisted arrest or had a toy gun. Seems like pretty significant detail to leave out.
    Go ahead and Google "unarmed white man shot by police" and you'll find matches for that too. I don't have any respect for that article.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mace1229 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Irrelevant, since they site and link to 18 studies. Anyone on the face of the planet could do the same thing, and it would be no less relevant than if the New York Times did it.
    I disagree since a reputable news agency would check the facts (how the research was done) and others may not.
    I found this article to be lacking details, and coming up with some ridiculous conclusions. One of the top first sources they cite them as saying "the only thing thing that significant in predicting whether the person shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black."
    That's ridiculous because every single case I have seen where someone was shot and killed and unarmed they either resisted arrest or had a toy gun. Seems like pretty significant detail to leave out.
    Go ahead and Google "unarmed white man shot by police" and you'll find matches for that too. I don't have any respect for that article.
    I know I'm probably wasting my time but, do you know how science works? You know what it takes to publish in a peer reviewed journal? Did you take a look at the links to the studies provided? The details are there....the science is there.....the evidence is there. But that doesn't fit your narrative so you dismiss it out of ignorance. Ever hear of confirmation bias?

  • dignin said:

    mace1229 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Irrelevant, since they site and link to 18 studies. Anyone on the face of the planet could do the same thing, and it would be no less relevant than if the New York Times did it.
    I disagree since a reputable news agency would check the facts (how the research was done) and others may not.
    I found this article to be lacking details, and coming up with some ridiculous conclusions. One of the top first sources they cite them as saying "the only thing thing that significant in predicting whether the person shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black."
    That's ridiculous because every single case I have seen where someone was shot and killed and unarmed they either resisted arrest or had a toy gun. Seems like pretty significant detail to leave out.
    Go ahead and Google "unarmed white man shot by police" and you'll find matches for that too. I don't have any respect for that article.
    I know I'm probably wasting my time but, do you know how science works? You know what it takes to publish in a peer reviewed journal? Did you take a look at the links to the studies provided? The details are there....the science is there.....the evidence is there. But that doesn't fit your narrative so you dismiss it out of ignorance. Ever hear of confirmation bias?

    The way some people post on AMT is like they're looking for peer reviews.
    But not you in any way personal whatsoever :smile:
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,669
    edited July 2016
    mace1229 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Irrelevant, since they site and link to 18 studies. Anyone on the face of the planet could do the same thing, and it would be no less relevant than if the New York Times did it.
    I disagree since a reputable news agency would check the facts (how the research was done) and others may not.
    I found this article to be lacking details, and coming up with some ridiculous conclusions. One of the top first sources they cite them as saying "the only thing thing that significant in predicting whether the person shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black."
    That's ridiculous because every single case I have seen where someone was shot and killed and unarmed they either resisted arrest or had a toy gun. Seems like pretty significant detail to leave out.
    Go ahead and Google "unarmed white man shot by police" and you'll find matches for that too. I don't have any respect for that article.
    mace1229 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    dignin said:

    Just a little info to show that the Sheriff above has no idea what he is talking about and is completely full of shit.

    WHAT THE DATA REALLY SAYS ABOUT POLICE AND RACIAL BIAS

    Eighteen academic studies, legal rulings, and media investigations shed light on the issue roiling America.


    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias

    Is vanityfair a reputable news agency?
    Irrelevant, since they site and link to 18 studies. Anyone on the face of the planet could do the same thing, and it would be no less relevant than if the New York Times did it.
    I disagree since a reputable news agency would check the facts (how the research was done) and others may not.
    I found this article to be lacking details, and coming up with some ridiculous conclusions. One of the top first sources they cite them as saying "the only thing thing that significant in predicting whether the person shot and killed by police was unarmed was whether or not they were black."
    That's ridiculous because every single case I have seen where someone was shot and killed and unarmed they either resisted arrest or had a toy gun. Seems like pretty significant detail to leave out.
    Go ahead and Google "unarmed white man shot by police" and you'll find matches for that too. I don't have any respect for that article.
    I think you're not understanding the quote you put in your comment. What that's saying is that looking at the variables, that none are significant in predicting whether a person will be shot outside if race. If you're black, you're more likely to be shot by cops, even if you're doing the same thing a white person is doing. You're wanting to draw conclusions from individual, anecdotal stories and ignore the data.
  • TL170678
    TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422