Istanbul airport terrorist attack.

tempo_n_groove

http://abcnews.go.com/International/explosions-reported-istanbul-airport/story?id=40197077

This seems to be happening too frequent or reporters are looking for a hot button...

BS44325

Looks like ISIS but no confirmation yet. Could be PKK as well but not their typical attack. Turkey's government had been cosying up to the Islamists over the last decade but just yesterday they normalized relations with Israel and pushed Hamas to the side. Timing could be coincidental but who knows. The one thing we can for sure rule out though is that the wide availability of AR-15's didn't cause this attack.

Annafalk

This is so horrible

seykooooah

We're still alive...

my2hands

seykooooah said:

We're still alive...

That is great news! Be safe

JWPearl

this is sad and what's worse is if there's no intervention it's only going to get worse
And is arrest ie 4 people for this going to make up for the amount of lives lost

BS44325

I'm amazed about how little traffic this thread is generating. Have we become so desensitized by these attacks? Is it that people are still unwilling to confront the threat of radical Islam or to acknowledge that it is a global expansionist movement that is not simply reacting to years of US and/or western foreign policy? Is it that to acknowledge these attacks is to admit that the Obama drawdown and/or his failure to enforce his "red line" in Syria enabled the spread of this cancer? Is it that American gun laws are not to blame? Is it that these victims don't matter as much as those of Paris, Brussels, Orlando, you name it? I can't possibly imagine that is the case. Usually I'm the one being labelled a bigot around here for frequently discussing the threat of Radical Islam but as you can see it strikes muslims just as much or even more so then anyone else. Turkey played a dangerous game over the last 8 years and specifically allowed Islamic fighters to cross it's borders to fight the Assad regime. It's government turned away from the old Ataturk philosophy and became more Islamic in nature. In addition it began cracking down on free speech and turned a blind eye to attacks on it's gay citizens and those who were less observant of Islam such as those who chose to drink alcohol at a Radiohead release party. Hopefully from this terrible attack Turkey will realize that any accommodation of radical elements can only ever lead to blowback against it's own citizens as the radicals through means of violence seek to penetrate every aspect of public life. I applaud the Turkish government's recent normalization of it's relationship with Israel and hope that once it recovers from this terrible tragedy it leads the charge and sets an example on confronting radical Islam wherever it might exist.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Godfather.

I have plenty to say but I'd just be met with same response I get when we discuss islamic terrorism, I just read a story on CBS News that said obama is talking about sending the troops to get the bad guy's....if it happens in the states he says we should embrace islam.....why bother ?

Godfather.

Cliffy6745

Godfather. said:

I have plenty to say but I'd just be met with same response I get when we discuss islamic terrorism, I just read a story on CBS News that said obama is talking about sending the troops to get the bad guy's....if it happens in the states he says we should embrace islam.....why bother ?

Godfather.

Are you suggesting a Civil War here in the good ole' U. S of A?

Godfather.

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

I have plenty to say but I'd just be met with same response I get when we discuss islamic terrorism, I just read a story on CBS News that said obama is talking about sending the troops to get the bad guy's....if it happens in the states he says we should embrace islam.....why bother ?

Godfather.

Are you suggesting a Civil War here in the good ole' U. S of A?

hahahahhaha no sir ! but how about the firing of a president ? should have been done long ago.

Godfather.

benjs

Godfather. said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Godfather. said:

I have plenty to say but I'd just be met with same response I get when we discuss islamic terrorism, I just read a story on CBS News that said obama is talking about sending the troops to get the bad guy's....if it happens in the states he says we should embrace islam.....why bother ?

Godfather.

Are you suggesting a Civil War here in the good ole' U. S of A?

hahahahhaha no sir ! but how about the firing of a president ? should have been done long ago.

Godfather.

On what grounds would you say that should be done? I assume you have some valid reasons for this, as you can't dismiss an employee without just cause, and you sure as hell can't impeach a president without it.

Degeneratefk

It's still very early in the investigation. How much speculation do you want? It is yet another horrible and probably preventable attack. Just be thankful that they "only" got 41 people.

tempo_n_groove

Degeneratefk said:

It's still very early in the investigation. How much speculation do you want? It is yet another horrible and probably preventable attack. Just be thankful that they "only" got 41 people.

It was a soft target so it's not preventable. I did see the one suicide bomber get shot but was still able to detonate his vest.

How do you prevent an attack like this?

Unless you have multiple checkpoints like Baghdad does you can't, it took me 3-1/2 hours to get through but it was very efficient in the fact that no one can blow up the inside of the airport.

PJfanwillneverleave1

BS44325 said:

I'm amazed about how little traffic this thread is generating. Have we become so desensitized by these attacks? Is it that people are still unwilling to confront the threat of radical Islam or to acknowledge that it is a global expansionist movement that is not simply reacting to years of US and/or western foreign policy? Is it that to acknowledge these attacks is to admit that the Obama drawdown and/or his failure to enforce his "red line" in Syria enabled the spread of this cancer? Is it that American gun laws are not to blame? Is it that these victims don't matter as much as those of Paris, Brussels, Orlando, you name it? I can't possibly imagine that is the case. Usually I'm the one being labelled a bigot around here for frequently discussing the threat of Radical Islam but as you can see it strikes muslims just as much or even more so then anyone else. Turkey played a dangerous game over the last 8 years and specifically allowed Islamic fighters to cross it's borders to fight the Assad regime. It's government turned away from the old Ataturk philosophy and became more Islamic in nature. In addition it began cracking down on free speech and turned a blind eye to attacks on it's gay citizens and those who were less observant of Islam such as those who chose to drink alcohol at a Radiohead release party. Hopefully from this terrible attack Turkey will realize that any accommodation of radical elements can only ever lead to blowback against it's own citizens as the radicals through means of violence seek to penetrate every aspect of public life. I applaud the Turkish government's recent normalization of it's relationship with Israel and hope that once it recovers from this terrible tragedy it leads the charge and sets an example on confronting radical Islam wherever it might exist.

It's not generating traffic because many are sitting back in the corner wishing and praying it all away.
The big bad wolf is out and no one wants to see it.

Degeneratefk

tempo_n_groove said:

Degeneratefk said:

It's still very early in the investigation. How much speculation do you want? It is yet another horrible and probably preventable attack. Just be thankful that they "only" got 41 people.

It was a soft target so it's not preventable. I did see the one suicide bomber get shot but was still able to detonate his vest.

How do you prevent an attack like this?

Unless you have multiple checkpoints like Baghdad does you can't, it took me 3-1/2 hours to get through but it was very efficient in the fact that no one can blow up the inside of the airport.

What I mean is when we find out who these suicide bombers were, it wouldn't be surprising if they were either questioned by authorities or on someone's suspected watch list.

mcgruff10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

jnimhaoileoin

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

PJ_Soul

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

Yeah really... unless he was being facetious. I am not sure.

mcgruff10

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

That's true, and that's the reason this entire thread was created in the first place. You're totally right. I just meant, and what I assume jnimhaoileoin meant, was that WE happen to care. I don't think we got that you were talking that generally.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

That's true, and that's the reason this entire thread was created in the first place. You're totally right. I just meant, and what I assume jnimhaoileoin meant, was that WE happen to care. I don't think we got that you were talking that generally.

Aaaaah got yA! So we agree! Nice.
It is sad that these types of attacks really don't have any sort of impact on the western world. people seriously don't give two shits.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

That's true, and that's the reason this entire thread was created in the first place. You're totally right. I just meant, and what I assume jnimhaoileoin meant, was that WE happen to care. I don't think we got that you were talking that generally.

Aaaaah got yA! So we agree! Nice.
It is sad that these types of attacks really don't have any sort of impact on the western world. people seriously don't give two shits.

No, and since I made this thread I've found that more often than not, folks are very comfortable making excuses as to why not, and don't feel that there is anything wrong with this..... Obviously I disagree. I am saddened by the apathy, particularly when these events really do have real meaning in our lives too, when you look at the BIG picture.

PJfanwillneverleave1

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

That's true, and that's the reason this entire thread was created in the first place. You're totally right. I just meant, and what I assume jnimhaoileoin meant, was that WE happen to care. I don't think we got that you were talking that generally.

Aaaaah got yA! So we agree! Nice.
It is sad that these types of attacks really don't have any sort of impact on the western world. people seriously don't give two shits.

No, and since I made this thread I've found that more often than not, folks are very comfortable making excuses as to why not, and don't feel that there is anything wrong with this..... Obviously I disagree. I am saddened by the apathy, particularly when these events really do have real meaning in our lives too, when you look at the BIG picture.

I thought Tempo was the OP?

tempo_n_groove

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

jnimhaoileoin said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

It was brought up in the 'attacks nobody cares about' thread.

Extreme left wing views- such as the ones consistently defending Islamic violence- are as goofy as the extreme right wing views- such as the ones demanding deportations.

There's a middle ground that needs to be shaped and accepted.

Unfortuanty no one cares about these attacks.

Speak for yourself please

After the Paris attacks there were French flags all over facebook; where are all the Turkish flags today? I haven't seen one. Seriously, unfortunately no one cares about these attacks.

That's true, and that's the reason this entire thread was created in the first place. You're totally right. I just meant, and what I assume jnimhaoileoin meant, was that WE happen to care. I don't think we got that you were talking that generally.

Aaaaah got yA! So we agree! Nice.
It is sad that these types of attacks really don't have any sort of impact on the western world. people seriously don't give two shits.

No, and since I made this thread I've found that more often than not, folks are very comfortable making excuses as to why not, and don't feel that there is anything wrong with this..... Obviously I disagree. I am saddened by the apathy, particularly when these events really do have real meaning in our lives too, when you look at the BIG picture.

I thought Tempo was the OP?

She started the "terrorist acts we don't talk about" thread. I know what she means.

People are right that western world doesn't care. I'm surprised at the little information that we are receiving do far.

I am glad that everyone is still commenting though.

BS44325

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

josevolution

BS44325 said:

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

There is no debate everybody knows it's the extremist terrorist factions that are the guilty one's I'm not sure what you would like people to say that's it's somehow this administrations fault ..

Bentleyspop

BS44325 said:

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

You forgot the moneyed elite (1%ers)

tempo_n_groove

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

There is no debate everybody knows it's the extremist terrorist factions that are the guilty one's I'm not sure what you would like people to say that's it's somehow this administrations fault ..

Funny you say that because there is a spin that there is "no Islamic extremist problem"...

Thirty Bills Unpaid

tempo_n_groove said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

There is no debate everybody knows it's the extremist terrorist factions that are the guilty one's I'm not sure what you would like people to say that's it's somehow this administrations fault ..

Funny you say that because there is a spin that there is "no Islamic extremist problem"...

I think this is legitimate; however, the overall tone seems to be changing and many who championed such a belief in the past- painting all who spoke even remotely to the real problem as intolerant buffoons- seem to be distancing themselves from that thought pattern.

tempo_n_groove

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

tempo_n_groove said:

josevolution said:

BS44325 said:

I'm not claiming that people don't care. I truly believe they do. What I am claiming however is that people don't want to acknowledge the cause. As far as these boards are concerned the boogeyman is western imperialism, racism, carbon emissions, US gun laws, Israel, and of course Donald Trump.

There is no debate everybody knows it's the extremist terrorist factions that are the guilty one's I'm not sure what you would like people to say that's it's somehow this administrations fault ..

Funny you say that because there is a spin that there is "no Islamic extremist problem"...

I think this is legitimate; however, the overall tone seems to be changing and many who championed such a belief in the past- painting all who spoke even remotely to the real problem as intolerant buffoons- seem to be distancing themselves from that thought pattern.

BadBrains whom used to post here sent me this link to share.
http://www.newislamicdirections.com/nid/notes/suicide_murder
Don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.