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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,687
    How was Primus anyone?
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    Call me crazy? But that’s a good looking set list!  Besides being a little short
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,307
    mr bungle said:
    Call me crazy? But that’s a good looking set list!  Besides being a little short

    now compare with the other set. you've shelled out to get a ticket. the travel. inflated merch(imo).

    I saw the same set(s) 3 times since 2019....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    If main motivation was to knock DR off the bucket list, with a side of Tool?  Then it would be worth it.  

    There’s more variety in the two sets than a normal two show run.

    I was on the fence about going.  I’m not regretting  missing it, but would have been satisfied with those shows. Plus a good supporting lineup! 

    I do feel bad for those that are disappointed 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited March 9
    mr bungle said:
    If main motivation was to knock DR off the bucket list, with a side of Tool?  Then it would be worth it.  

    One can get a comparable all inclusive package at the hard rock or a neighboring resort for as little as 1/3 - 1/2 of what they were charging people to get into the festival. From that perspective, you're looking at an extra $1500 just for the concerts. 

    Had they not advertised two unique setlists that would be one thing, but I completely understand the frustration. 

    edit: & comparing this weekend to a normal two show run is apples -> oranges.
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,423
    Merkin Baller said:
    mr bungle said:
    If main motivation was to knock DR off the bucket list, with a side of Tool?  Then it would be worth it.  

    One can get a comparable all inclusive package at the hard rock or a neighboring resort for as little as 1/3 - 1/2 of what they were charging people to get into the festival. From that perspective, you're looking at an extra $1500 just for the concerts. 

    Had they not advertised two unique setlists that would be one thing, but I completely understand the frustration. 

    edit: & comparing this weekend to a normal two show run is apples -> oranges.
    Ok. You convinced me. People got fucked over!

    guess I was just trying to shine a turd?! I was clearly in the minority trying to find some positives. Easy for me, when I didn’t drop the cash on it.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    This is easily the least amount of effort I've seen any host band put into one of these destination festivals. I've been to two and read about many others. The lack of effort is particularly notable when I consider how much was put into the Sessanta and Beat shows I saw last year.

    Now if someone looks at the setlists and total stage time and says they would be totally satisfied relative to the cost - I cannot argue with that opinion but I also can't comprehend it.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    How difficult would it be to scale back production and play a pair of 2 hour sets stuffed with a bunch of songs fans haven't heard regularly in years? Have they lost so much on their fastball that they can't work them up in rehearsals? Do they just not want to put in the time? Do all 4 guys look at this plan and say "perfect, we're proud of this plan?"
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 992
    edited March 9
    Sheesh. The two unique sets thing should be honoured. So the fans were right to be annoyed-Maynard should have understood. Especially when the tickets are so expensive.

    Just got to Mexico City and hoping the band will be on form here. Maybe the set will have one more song in it as it'll won't be a festival (well the Cult are opening so that should be interesting). Will probably splurge on merch as hey not too many Kiwis get to go to Mexico City for gigs but I'm disappointed fans felt hard done by. Hope the rest of the tour fans get their hopes met.

    If they played Eulogy the second night all may have been forgiven 😂
    Stars are suns to other people.

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    Amsterdam 1 & 2 2014
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    pjl44 said:
    How difficult would it be to scale back production and play a pair of 2 hour sets stuffed with a bunch of songs fans haven't heard regularly in years? Have they lost so much on their fastball that they can't work them up in rehearsals? Do they just not want to put in the time? Do all 4 guys look at this plan and say "perfect, we're proud of this plan?"
    Part of me thinks it’s all Adam & Maynard making these calls… the other two probably have just learned to yield to them. & to your point about Sessanta, we know Maynard can go all out when he wants to, and the guy never stops working… so is it Adam in the end? idk. I do wonder about the conversations that took place… they can’t not have foreseen this reaction. 
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,687
    Stone's fault
  • JT167846
    JT167846 Posts: 992
    It's Maynard. He picks the sets so has to.be comfortable with what he can do vocally. Danny has said he can play anything from the catalogue-which means Justin and Adam can too as their roles are less physical. Adam does the videos with Junior and Breck and I imagine they're good enough to put together some kickarse lights at short notice were the band to decide on a curveball.
    Stars are suns to other people.

    Wellington 1998
    London 2007
    Brisbane 2009
    Stockholm 2012
    Amsterdam 1 & 2 2014
    EV Dublin 2017
    Milan 2018
    Padova 2018
    Boston 2 2018
    Auckland 1 & 2 2024
  • GB281198
    GB281198 Virginia Posts: 630
    Loujoe said:
    How was Primus anyone?
    https://loudwire.com/setlist-video-primus-first-show-new-drummer/
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    Merkin Baller said:
    pjl44 said:
    How difficult would it be to scale back production and play a pair of 2 hour sets stuffed with a bunch of songs fans haven't heard regularly in years? Have they lost so much on their fastball that they can't work them up in rehearsals? Do they just not want to put in the time? Do all 4 guys look at this plan and say "perfect, we're proud of this plan?"
    Part of me thinks it’s all Adam & Maynard making these calls… the other two probably have just learned to yield to them. & to your point about Sessanta, we know Maynard can go all out when he wants to, and the guy never stops working… so is it Adam in the end? idk. I do wonder about the conversations that took place… they can’t not have foreseen this reaction. 
    Man I would love to know what the conversations are like. Both before and after. If there was any debate before and then they go and get booed by their own fans....man oh man.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited March 10
    JT167846 said:
    Sheesh. The two unique sets thing should be honoured. So the fans were right to be annoyed-Maynard should have understood. Especially when the tickets are so expensive.

    Just got to Mexico City and hoping the band will be on form here. Maybe the set will have one more song in it as it'll won't be a festival (well the Cult are opening so that should be interesting). Will probably splurge on merch as hey not too many Kiwis get to go to Mexico City for gigs but I'm disappointed fans felt hard done by. Hope the rest of the tour fans get their hopes met.

    If they played Eulogy the second night all may have been forgiven 😂
    Enjoy Mexico City. If it’s like any of the shows I’ve seen supporting FI, it will be amazing. 

    Hopefully they have some fire in their belly after this weekend & it pushes the performance to another level. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    edited March 10
    pjl44 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    pjl44 said:
    How difficult would it be to scale back production and play a pair of 2 hour sets stuffed with a bunch of songs fans haven't heard regularly in years? Have they lost so much on their fastball that they can't work them up in rehearsals? Do they just not want to put in the time? Do all 4 guys look at this plan and say "perfect, we're proud of this plan?"
    Part of me thinks it’s all Adam & Maynard making these calls… the other two probably have just learned to yield to them. & to your point about Sessanta, we know Maynard can go all out when he wants to, and the guy never stops working… so is it Adam in the end? idk. I do wonder about the conversations that took place… they can’t not have foreseen this reaction. 
    Man I would love to know what the conversations are like. Both before and after. If there was any debate before and then they go and get booed by their own fans....man oh man.
    Agreed… & of all shows, they had that crowd on a spit like no other before they even took the stage. They f’ed this up good. 
  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,687
    GB281198 said:
    Loujoe said:
    How was Primus anyone?
    https://loudwire.com/setlist-video-primus-first-show-new-drummer/
    Thanks.  B)
    Wonder how the fish were biting
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,336
    mr bungle said:
    Call me crazy? But that’s a good looking set list!  Besides being a little short
    Seen this set with 2 changes.  Otherwise it's the same songs.

    This is also why I skipped last tour.  People tell me to keep seeing them but I will pass if they can't dig into the catalog a little more.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    edited March 10
    Was looking at the IG comments from the initial announcement and Ben Koller of Converge is Nostradamus 


  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753
    IDK if it's a spoof or not, but my buddy sent me a reddit link about a lawsuit someone's trying to put together after the debacle Saturday night. 

    Good luck with that. 

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