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The Speed of PJ songs played live...

ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
edited June 2007 in Given To Fly (live)
Does anyone every wonder why alot of PJ songs are played superfast?

asif its a record being played in a faster speed than normal

Do they speed things up to be able to play alot of songs in total?

honestly sometimes i wish they played some songs a bit more in the studio pase... sometimes its just 'crazy fast' ...

what do you all think?
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  • strilostrilo Portland OR Posts: 484
    I think Alive is played too slow on Ten. It's better in concert. I did feel like the live version of Gone on one of my bootlegs was too fast.
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  • ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
    strilo wrote:
    I think Alive is played too slow on Ten. It's better in concert. I did feel like the live version of Gone on one of my bootlegs was too fast.

    I totally agree that Alive is too slow in the studio version. Put the songs with a more punky riff they play so enormousely fast... Even flow for instance... so so fast... also Why go ..... hard to keep up for Ed too in his singing...

    so then why not slow it down just a bit?
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  • justanothergirljustanothergirl Posts: 30
    Even Flow is really fast when they play it live.
  • ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
    justanothergirl wrote:
    Even Flow is really fast when they play it live.

    If you listen to the Arnhem, Netherlands bootleg 2006 almost every up tempo song is played in an amazing speed. Ed's singing almost becomes rapping.
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  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    IT'S EVOLUTION BABY...
    Well yeah, they play DTE quicker live, but it is the evolution from studio to live
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  • RicsardRicsard Posts: 1,943
    I prefer the classic speed Even Flow as well...Why Go? and other songs faster sound absolutely great IMHO!!!
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  • DarkStarDarkStar Posts: 734
    i agree...songs are played faster at concerts. the one that bothers me the most is I Got Shit. such an awesome song...but when it's sped up it loses a little of the magic.

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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    agree with all of the above but it has to be said some of the songs work much better when played faster live than in studio

    Daughter (not always played faster but not bad when it is)
    Corduroy
    Given To Fly
    RVM
    Grievance

    ones they could slow down for - off he goes in 2006 felt like it was rushed!
  • shermanator982shermanator982 Posts: 65
    Being a musician myself, I can only say that adrenaline kicks in. it is pretty hard to play things EXACTLY the same as the recordings, and when you got a flow going on stage and crowds cheering, you tend to play faster and kick things into overdrive.

    Plus, knowing PJ, they like to change things up, and songs from ten, which they have been playing for 17 years, sometimes you need to switch things up to keep them interesting.
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  • drtyfrnk29drtyfrnk29 Posts: 846
    Honestly, I think it's just something that happens when you're in a live setting. I've played a lot of shows over the years where the adrenaline takes over and you can't help playing a bit above the normal tempo. It's true that alot of the songs can suffer when played faster, ie Given To Fly or I Got Shit. Just something that happens.
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  • ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
    well i can imagine that its just something that happens but shouldnt they keep an eye on that ?

    Im not telling them how to play it but if its what you say it is; unintentional, then maybe they should keep it they way they really ment it to sound.

    Anyway I love their concerts regardless. And when present at shows (one so far) I love the speed thing. I guess my critique comes while listening to bootlegs at home, with a normal heartbeat :D
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  • reaching handsreaching hands Posts: 370
    its something i learn't when learning performance at college, you stay tight as a band when you kick off a fair whack, your concentration is more tuned.

    If you start off to slow is too hard to bring it back but if you start off real fast, you can afford to slow up abit and its less noticeable.

    just listen to Dave a playing jeremy live back in the day, when he gets to the chorus (thinkin of bside of animal here), he somehow slows the song down being to 'fiddly', matt cameron, keeps it solid.

    i also thought 2003 performances sounded too messy , to me they seemed to up the anti of the pace and accuracy in 2006, just the way matt counted them in at the shows i went to, it showed they mean business, and it was awesome
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  • I Am GoneI Am Gone Posts: 831
    It also depends on if the song starts with one band member playing a riff then that will dictate the speed of the whole song...
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  • ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
    I'm Gone wrote:
    It also depends on if the song starts with one band member playing a riff then that will dictate the speed of the whole song...

    yes so maybe its often Stone that starts a song really speedy ?
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    Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."
  • SylSyl Posts: 149
    ChrisD wrote:
    If you listen to the Arnhem, Netherlands bootleg 2006 almost every up tempo song is played in an amazing speed.
    Yes I agree and I remember thinking that already in the Gelredome. As if they were in a hurry when they played those songs.
  • ChrisDChrisD Posts: 48
    reaching hands wrote:
    its something i learn't when learning performance at college, you stay tight as a band when you kick off a fair whack, your concentration is more tuned.

    If you start off to slow is too hard to bring it back but if you start off real fast, you can afford to slow up abit and its less noticeable.

    just listen to Dave a playing jeremy live back in the day, when he gets to the chorus (thinkin of bside of animal here), he somehow slows the song down being to 'fiddly', matt cameron, keeps it solid.

    i also thought 2003 performances sounded too messy , to me they seemed to up the anti of the pace and accuracy in 2006, just the way matt counted them in at the shows i went to, it showed they mean business, and it was awesome

    good explanation... there's alot to this complexity
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  • randy5554randy5554 Posts: 6
    With some songs it is definitely a conscientious decision. Songs like Life Wasted and WWS from Avocado are played faster than on the album, but they are also the same faster speed each show.
  • DontGotIDDontGotID Posts: 137
    I wish they still played Why Go as slow as they used to. Even Flow is played so fast that its almost a completely different song than it used to be. I like it but sometimes i wished they changed it up and played it slow again.

    Given to Fly is another speedy one but i think Ed gets better at singing it every year.
  • lucehifenerlucehifener Posts: 84
    I've always noticed that songs I write end up faster live. Very rarely is something slower live. Usually, when songs are written, they're still new, and slower by default. But once you get the songs down, you feel like kicking it up a notch, especially for an audience.

    It's like learning how to walk. You can't do it fast, but once you get it down, you can run. Running fulfills your body far more than walking. Same goes for music and whatever part of us is fulfilled by being a musician.
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    i love the crazy fast70% of the time
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  • GRIMMYGRIMMY Posts: 370
    ChrisD wrote:
    Does anyone every wonder why alot of PJ songs are played superfast?

    asif its a record being played in a faster speed than normal

    Do they speed things up to be able to play alot of songs in total?

    honestly sometimes i wish they played some songs a bit more in the studio pase... sometimes its just 'crazy fast' ...

    what do you all think?
    your right I used to be in a band and it seems like when we played live we allways played the songs faster..I guess the nerves and the adrenaline still get to PJ,,,
    grimmy
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Bushleaguer in St. Paul '03 seemed slower than on Riot Act.

    The songs that would become Ten from Mookie Blaylock's first gig at the Off-Ramp Cafe, are played a lot slower than on the album.
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  • Scratchin a LetterScratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    The studio versions of Even Flow and Given to Fly are too slow.

    World Wide Suicide is played too fast sometimes though.

    But hey, I'm not going to complain
  • opsopcopolisopsopcopolis Posts: 1,197
    I love how they take Comatose really really fast live.
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  • ManOnFireManOnFire Posts: 15
    It's true, It's true... but i wouldn't have it any other way!!
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    Adrenaline can cause musicians to speed up and get excited, but the pace they are playing their songs currently is totally premeditated. They listen to the tapes. If it was accidental, well, they have been playing together for almost 20 years. They can fix it.They played the same songs for 15 years without playing them this fast.
    I love the sped up versions, I think they're fun and energetic.
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  • randaldoesjerseyrandaldoesjersey Posts: 151
    Well, they're not the Ramones, I'll tell you that much.
  • danedane Posts: 1,062
    There's a lot of bands that speed up the songs live. Why do they do that? To get the show over with faster? To press in more songs in the set? Don't know, but I know that I hate it. However there's a few songs where it actually serves the song right, one of them being Alive.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    ChrisD wrote:
    yes so maybe its often Stone that starts a song really speedy ?

    not just stone...listen to recent versions of brain of j...holy shit!
    mike just tears that shit out so fuckin fast, the thing is over in like 2 minutes. stone's solos are always awesome in live versions of that song...
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