Republican Convention 2016/ Cleveland

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    I wish Hunter S Thompson were alive to see and write about this.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't know, judging by the speakers so far at this convention, I would say that it's the right that is really scared of all the boogey men out there in the world that are going to come and take away their freedom.

    This convention is ripe with fear.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. Especially coming from someone who has no skin in the game. How many US troops do you know? How many people did you go to high school with who served and put their life on the line?

    I would much much prefer worry about the big white truck that is never going to hit me than put more soldiers at risk for an area that serves no benefit to this country
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,033
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Or the guy with the axe tries to kill you on a train.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. Especially coming from someone who has no skin in the game. How many US troops do you know? How many people did you go to high school with who served and put their life on the line?
    We all have skin in the game as the battlefield is in our streets.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. Especially coming from someone who has no skin in the game. How many US troops do you know? How many people did you go to high school with who served and put their life on the line?
    We all have skin in the game as the battlefield is in our streets.
    lol
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. Especially coming from someone who has no skin in the game. How many US troops do you know? How many people did you go to high school with who served and put their life on the line?
    We all have skin in the game as the battlefield is in our streets.
    lol
    You laugh but how many people did you go to high school with who were killed by terrorists?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    "THEY'RE GONNA COME HERE AND KILL US!"

    Orlando
    Shaking in my boots
    Most on the left is whereas the right wants to fight back. It's fear that leads to inaction.
    I don't follow
    Action requires risk. Fighting radical Islam requires risk. You speak as if Rudy is trying to scare people but it is quite the opposite. It is those that prefer inaction who are afraid. It is the fear of risk. But that fear paralyzes you until the big white truck drives through the crowd.
    Nonsense. Complete and utter nonsense. Especially coming from someone who has no skin in the game. How many US troops do you know? How many people did you go to high school with who served and put their life on the line?
    We all have skin in the game as the battlefield is in our streets.
    lol
    You laugh but how many people did you go to high school with who were killed by terrorists?
    0, which is precisely the point.

    I had two good friends that fought though. One marine infantry who served 8 years and is beyond fucked up.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
  • BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    I saw a number of minority speakers so I'm not sure what was so alienating. Second the American people don't think Islamic Radicalism is the boogeyman. If the democratic convention intends to treat as such then Hillary's campaign is going to struggle.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    "U.S.A...I love it" - said some guy that needs a glass of water.


    Seriously though, get that guy a glass of water.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    This speaks for itself. I would expect an academic like yourself would want less of a reality tv show atmosphere for a presidential election.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    Listen, I don't expect much out of the DNC though I am very excited for the festivities here in Philly, but they're sure as hell not going to be screaming that they're coming to kill you
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    "War is not about bathrooms."
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
    Your President has troops fighting in Afganistan and Iraq right now. He has been in Afganistan and Iraq longer then the previous administration. The democratic nominee intends to keep it that way. Will she discuss this policy?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited July 2016
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    This speaks for itself. I would expect an academic like yourself would want less of a reality tv show atmosphere for a presidential election.
    In no way personal whatsoever at all.
    I would think an academic could explain in one sentence why HRC will be the next POTUS.
    Post edited by PJfanwillneverleave1 on
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    This speaks for itself. I would expect an academic like yourself would want less of a reality tv show atmosphere for a presidential election.
    You are correct but I have come to the realization that academics don't win elections.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
    Your President has troops fighting in Afganistan and Iraq right now. He has been in Afganistan and Iraq longer then the previous administration. The democratic nominee intends to keep it that way. Will she discuss this policy?
    We are not completely getting out of there for the foreseeable future. I don't really consider what we have their a "war", but whatever you want to call it, fine, we have troops there. Probably 10% of what we have once upon a time when we had folks dying daily

  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    This speaks for itself. I would expect an academic like yourself would want less of a reality tv show atmosphere for a presidential election.
    You are correct but I have come to the realization that academics don't win elections.
    Hahaha then you weren't paying attention when the academic beat the POW veteran and then the super rich hedge fund manager!
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    edited July 2016
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    This speaks for itself. I would expect an academic like yourself would want less of a reality tv show atmosphere for a presidential election.
    You are correct but I have come to the realization that academics don't win elections.
    If you want a war so badly, why don't you get on your government to send troops over and take the lead? Stop talking about what the US should be doing and focus on what your country should be doing
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
    Your President has troops fighting in Afganistan and Iraq right now. He has been in Afganistan and Iraq longer then the previous administration. The democratic nominee intends to keep it that way. Will she discuss this policy?
    We are not completely getting out of there for the foreseeable future. I don't really consider what we have their a "war", but whatever you want to call it, fine, we have troops there. Probably 10% of what we have once upon a time when we had folks dying daily

    Fair but this 10% has come along with diminishing returns. There is no doubt in my mind that either party will ramp up engagement come January. The only difference is that the Democratic Party wants to remain in denial on this front. Cliffy rightful wants a discussion of policy but he is ignoring the fact that the Democratic convention will bury this as an issue so as to keep the party united until Election Day. Easy to rip on the republicans but they are telegraphing what they are going to do.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,880
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
    Your President has troops fighting in Afganistan and Iraq right now. He has been in Afganistan and Iraq longer then the previous administration. The democratic nominee intends to keep it that way. Will she discuss this policy?
    We are not completely getting out of there for the foreseeable future. I don't really consider what we have their a "war", but whatever you want to call it, fine, we have troops there. Probably 10% of what we have once upon a time when we had folks dying daily

    Fair but this 10% has come along with diminishing returns. There is no doubt in my mind that either party will ramp up engagement come January. The only difference is that the Democratic Party wants to remain in denial on this front. Cliffy rightful wants a discussion of policy but he is ignoring the fact that the Democratic convention will bury this as an issue so as to keep the party united until Election Day. Easy to rip on the republicans but they are telegraphing what they are going to do.
    They're not going to send troops over there. Our country has no appetite for it. Trump said as much on 60 minutes last night. Fear mongering and empty promises of "safety"
  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited July 2016
    RE: the sheriff: I don't think it's right that a public servant can politically endorse a candidate while in uniform. Public servants are not supposed to be partisan in their work.
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    I saw a number of minority speakers so I'm not sure what was so alienating. Second the American people don't think Islamic Radicalism is the boogeyman. If the democratic convention intends to treat as such then Hillary's campaign is going to struggle.
    Yes, I'm pretty sure the only minorities at the convention were the speakers. Pan the audience . . . not so much. The Republican Party has proven itself tonight to be a collection of scared white people.
    Post edited by what dreams on
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    They might want to refrain from taking wide pans of that convention. The place is half empty. Is that normal?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    Which policy?
    The one that got your friend beyond fucked up?
    Perhaps you need a history lesson...
    Your President has troops fighting in Afganistan and Iraq right now. He has been in Afganistan and Iraq longer then the previous administration. The democratic nominee intends to keep it that way. Will she discuss this policy?
    We are not completely getting out of there for the foreseeable future. I don't really consider what we have their a "war", but whatever you want to call it, fine, we have troops there. Probably 10% of what we have once upon a time when we had folks dying daily

    Fair but this 10% has come along with diminishing returns. There is no doubt in my mind that either party will ramp up engagement come January. The only difference is that the Democratic Party wants to remain in denial on this front. Cliffy rightful wants a discussion of policy but he is ignoring the fact that the Democratic convention will bury this as an issue so as to keep the party united until Election Day. Easy to rip on the republicans but they are telegraphing what they are going to do.
    They're not going to send troops over there. Our country has no appetite for it. Trump said as much on 60 minutes last night. Fear mongering and empty promises of "safety"
    Mark my words there will be an increase and instead of ignoring it like the media did for Obama's latest increase it will be treated as a massive escalation reminiscent of Vietnam.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    RE: the sheriff: I don't think it's right that a public servant can politically endorse a candidate while in uniform. Public servants are not supposed to be partisan in their work.

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Tonight was thoroughly entertaining. Very solid night 1. It won't convince people on here but if the rest of the convention goes this way it will be considered a home run. The democratic convention will be a massive snooze fest comparatively.

    You think that did anything but alienate minorities and pander to the base?

    A snooze fest because they'll actually talk about policy and not the boogeyman?
    I saw a number of minority speakers so I'm not sure what was so alienating. Second the American people don't think Islamic Radicalism is the boogeyman. If the democratic convention intends to treat as such then Hillary's campaign is going to struggle.
    Yes, I'm pretty sure the only minorities at the convention were the speakers. Pan the audience . . . not so much. The Republican Party has proven itself tonight to be a collection of scared white people.
    Bias
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