Republican Convention 2016/ Cleveland

PJ_Soul

Degeneratefk said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Cruz is an asshat. But it's worth saying something g when you alone are standing up against an entire party at the convention.

Exactly. I don't like Cruz any more than I ever did - I hate him and would actually prefer Trump over him for president. Definitely no love for him. But that doesn't mean his speech wasn't awesome, lol. I think that is all anyone is saying.

ikiT

#dontrusted

Cliffy6745

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Why is it so hard to understand that you can respect someone's position on one thing and completely disagree with them on everything else?

josevolution

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Hey we can like that he did last night but I would never ever vote for him or any other Republican ever do I respect him for last night but that's about it still find him & the whole GOP party repulsive !!

ikiT

he looked PF scared you ask me.

BS44325

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Why is it so hard to understand that you can respect someone's position on one thing and completely disagree with them on everything else?

It is not hard but when nobody on here ever respected his "truth to power" stance before it is amazing to see so much respect for that stance now. Not once have I ever seen somebody write "Man do I hate Ted Cruz but I sure do respect his stance on shutting down the government because he passionately disagrees with Obamacare." The only reason anybody respects it now is that opposition to the Republican nominee of the moment always supersedes anything else.

Cliffy6745

BS44325 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Why is it so hard to understand that you can respect someone's position on one thing and completely disagree with them on everything else?

It is not hard but when nobody on here ever respected his "truth to power" stance before it is amazing to see so much respect for that stance now. Not once have I ever seen somebody write "Man do I hate Ted Cruz but I sure do respect his stance on shutting down the government because he passionately disagrees with Obamacare." The only reason anybody respects it now is that opposition to the Republican nominee of the moment always supersedes anything else.

Perhaps because I don't respect that opinion...

BS44325

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Why is it so hard to understand that you can respect someone's position on one thing and completely disagree with them on everything else?

It is not hard but when nobody on here ever respected his "truth to power" stance before it is amazing to see so much respect for that stance now. Not once have I ever seen somebody write "Man do I hate Ted Cruz but I sure do respect his stance on shutting down the government because he passionately disagrees with Obamacare." The only reason anybody respects it now is that opposition to the Republican nominee of the moment always supersedes anything else.

Perhaps because I don't respect that opinion...

Exactly. You don't really respect his opinion to buck the system you just respect the times he agrees with you.

Cliffy6745

BS44325 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

BS44325 said:

josevolution said:

Indifference71 said:

Can't believe I'm saying this but good for Cruz! Didn't give into the political party bullshit and refused to endorse that piece of trash.

Yeah I agree at least he's distancing himself from the baboon show plus his still pissed at asshole Trump for disrespecting his wife I just wish Cruz would of punched Trump in his face just for good measure !

I love seeing all the progressive Ted Cruz haters showing their love for him now. It really is amazing. Let's be clear that everyone on here has always hated Cruz. Given the chance none of you would ever cast a vote for Ted Cruz. When Ted Cruz held up the budget deals over a year ago nobody on here thought he was speaking truth to power. I actually love what he did last night (although I believe it hurts him and not Trump over the long term) but let's not pretend that you all have some new found respect for the man which might put you in the Ted Cruz camp in the future.

Why is it so hard to understand that you can respect someone's position on one thing and completely disagree with them on everything else?

It is not hard but when nobody on here ever respected his "truth to power" stance before it is amazing to see so much respect for that stance now. Not once have I ever seen somebody write "Man do I hate Ted Cruz but I sure do respect his stance on shutting down the government because he passionately disagrees with Obamacare." The only reason anybody respects it now is that opposition to the Republican nominee of the moment always supersedes anything else.

Perhaps because I don't respect that opinion...

Exactly. You don't really respect his opinion to buck the system you just respect the times he agrees with you.

Ahhhh, yeah...especially when it comes to Cruz considering he is a lunatic.

ikiT

I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

Cliffy6745

Tiki said:

I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

And said his dad was involved with the JFK assassination and threaten to bring his wife's depression up as a campaign topic. But yeah, I generally agree with you.

PJ_Soul

Tiki said:

I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.

BS44325

PJ_Soul said:

Tiki said:

I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.

It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

*interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.

PJ_Soul

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Tiki said:

I don't respect anything about Ted Cruz, even his sticking to the script in the face of an angered mob ("ENDORSE TRUMP!")...if he was so principled (which he is not), he would have stayed home like John Kasich.

All Trump did was say his wife was ugly...

No, there is nothing to respect. The Trump speech was great because it ruffled feathers at the shit show. That's it. Cruz did it for his own sake though, not for anyone else (maybe God is some fucked up way). He didn't gain my respect. He just gave me a speech that I thoroughly enjoyed because it made all the idiots at the RNC look like bigger idiots, basically. Yes, I do get some feelings of glee when Trump supporters get all mad and defensive. It's funny.

It is funny for sure. Again on the flipside though I wonder if we're all seeing it right. Trump knowingly let's Cruz go on stage and shit talk* him. People who are concerned about Trump being some potential Hitler-like authoritarian now have to come to the grips with the fact that he actively lets people shit talk him on prime time television. Is that authoritarian? Hardly. Next week we are going to compare that to the DNC which will be so scripted and boring and where all competition will be requires to bow down before a Hillary. A Hillary that has shown herself to be completely inaccessible to the media in comparison to the Trump family which has been on tve taking questions every second of everyday. How will the American people assess that difference? I am not sure I know anymore.

*interesting aside - I wrote "shit talk" and my iOS autocorrect entered "rebuke". I had to go back and re-type it. Weird.

Yeah, I did see something about Trump seeing the speech beforehand and letting it happen. I just kind of assumed it's a miscalculation on Trump's part. I feel like Trump is actually starting to overestimate the power of his bullshit now. Now that the real race is on, I don't think he can keep playing the games he's been playing up until now. But to your point about him not appearing authoritarian... I never thought he appeared that way. His ideas are Hitler-esque, and some of his campaign tactics are too, in terms of propaganda, but he's never been one to just tell people to shut up. He can't do that, because he can't shut up himself. He is just constantly out there swinging instead of just shutting down detractors. He's not the least bit shy about confronting his critics and never has been. That in and of itself isn't a bad thing... it's the fact that the critics are usually right and Trump is always just blowing bullshit out of his mouth in response that is the problem, lol. When he defends himself he gets into these bizarre train of thought moments that come off as pretty nutty.

Go Beavers

I'm eagerly waiting for tonight to hear what else I need to be afraid of.

Jason P

I can't believe all of you are watching it.

josevolution

Jason P said:

I can't believe all of you are watching it.

I stopped after the 1st night , if they are not going to lay out their mission for the country and only talk smack about HC for three days it's unwatchable to me !!

g under p

josevolution said:

Jason P said:

I can't believe all of you are watching it.

I stopped after the 1st night , if they are not going to lay out their mission for the country and only talk smack about HC for three days it's unwatchable to me !!

ALL of these conventions are unwatchable I can't see what's so entertaining about this false lovest.

Peace

Jason P

At least the city of cleveland is keeping all the idiots under control so far.

g under p

Jason P said:

At least the city of cleveland is keeping all the idiots under control so far.

What else would you expect the city just won a championship for the first time in umpteen years.

Peace