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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I would just hate for a family in my neighbourhood to feel like they have to isolate themselves because of their culture. but I also don't want to be overbearing or offensive in any way. hard to know. I guess all i can do is talk to them. LOL.

    Think of it from their perspective and be pleasant. Same with your daughter.

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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,599
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I would just hate for a family in my neighbourhood to feel like they have to isolate themselves because of their culture. but I also don't want to be overbearing or offensive in any way. hard to know. I guess all i can do is talk to them. LOL.

    Go over and be friendly and ONLY when the male is home.
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    My husband's brother and his family (wife, 2 kids) are Jehovah's Witnesses. I've been to a few events at their Kingdom Hall (high school graduation parties, niece's wedding) and their congregation is very diverse.

    When I'm around my BIL and SIL, I forget that they're Witnesses because, I hate to put it this way, but they are just regular people. They are very tolerant of other religions, like rock 'n' roll, have a great sense of humor, etc. Their beliefs rarely come up. I don't believe the things they believe but they've never tried to impose anything on me. My only objection is that my niece and nephew don't stay in touch very much, and that seems to be part of their religion--you are friendly with your non-JW relatives or co-workers but don't spend too much time with them. My husband's sister and I have had discussions about this. It bothers her more than me because they live near her. But we're kind of resigned that that's their belief.

    HFD, if your neighbors are Pakistani, they might be Muslim but not necessarily. They may be Baha'i or another religion. They may not be particularly religious. I've known and/or worked with probably 200-300 Muslims. A few of them were very religious, some not at all, some just observant of the big things--kind of like Christians who only go to church Christmas and Easter.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    I have neighbors I avoid. Maybe it's you!!!!! :)
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    tempo_n_groove said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I would just hate for a family in my neighbourhood to feel like they have to isolate themselves because of their culture. but I also don't want to be overbearing or offensive in any way. hard to know. I guess all i can do is talk to them. LOL.

    Go over and be friendly and ONLY when the male is home.
    the problem is, I don't know when he's home. we share a back lane, so I would have no idea if he was or not.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.

    I'm not overthinking things. it's just a shame to have one of her best friends a few houses away and she can't see her. it's just weird. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion on how I can best approach a possible cultural divide. that's all.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    edited April 2016
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    I asked my daughter last night, and she said they are from Pakistan. She is not sure, however, if the parents are originally from there. To make another potentially stupid comment: I have never seen a Jehovah's witness that wasn't white. is this common?

    The one I mentioned is Korean.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    callen said:

    I have neighbors I avoid. Maybe it's you!!!!! :)

    :lol:
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,760
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.

    I'm not overthinking things. it's just a shame to have one of her best friends a few houses away and she can't see her. it's just weird. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion on how I can best approach a possible cultural divide. that's all.
    Yeah, I don't think there is such a thing as overthinking why your daughter apparently isn't allowed to play with one of her best friends..... Have you considered simply going over there and asking them why it seems like their kid isn't allowed to play with your daughter? What's the worst that could happen? They already don't allow it to happen, and there isn't anything else they can "threaten". Maybe there is some misunderstanding.... Maybe they heard a nasty rumour about you, lol, or they have some other odd reasoning behind it that you can perhaps clear up. I mean, I doubt it, but you never know! Sometimes weird shit happens!
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Maybe you play your music too loud. :naughty:
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    her friend isn't allowed to play with anyone as far as I know, not just my daughter.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    yeah, maybe they are Creed fans. who knows. LOL
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.

    I'm not overthinking things. it's just a shame to have one of her best friends a few houses away and she can't see her. it's just weird. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion on how I can best approach a possible cultural divide. that's all.
    It might be cultural. It might be overprotectiveness. It might be (and probably is) a blend of both.

    Either way... it's their issue. Just remain friendly and until such a day occurs where they feel they can let their daughter out to enjoy life... make sure your's does.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,793
    It's unreal how parents force kids their religion down their throats , I mean how could you as a parent not allow your kids to PLAY with your neighbors when my kids were young I had to drive them to play dates cause we had no neighbors with kids of the age of my two ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.

    I'm not overthinking things. it's just a shame to have one of her best friends a few houses away and she can't see her. it's just weird. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion on how I can best approach a possible cultural divide. that's all.
    It might be cultural. It might be overprotectiveness. It might be (and probably is) a blend of both.

    Either way... it's their issue. Just remain friendly and until such a day occurs where they feel they can let their daughter out to enjoy life... make sure your's does.
    no, it's not just their issue. my daughter would like to play with her friend. the other part I keep mentioning......there is no "remaining friendly". I don't see them. I have NEVER seen them. only my wife has, when she went to their house. we share a back lane that they don't use. so either I go to their house and talk to them, or my daughter doesn't get to play with her friend. simple as that.

    and in the spirit of being a good neighbour, I'd like to make them feel comfortable if that is the issue. but also in the spirit of respecting people's beliefs and/or privacy, i don't want to do anything to upset anyone. that's all.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    josevolution said:

    It's unreal how parents force kids their religion down their throats , I mean how could you as a parent not allow your kids to PLAY with your neighbors when my kids were young I had to drive them to play dates cause we had no neighbors with kids of the age of my two ....

    no one knows what the reason is.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,793
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    josevolution said:

    It's unreal how parents force kids their religion down their throats , I mean how could you as a parent not allow your kids to PLAY with your neighbors when my kids were young I had to drive them to play dates cause we had no neighbors with kids of the age of my two ....

    no one knows what the reason is.
    I know just stating that as something I've seen parents do , I used to hate not having any kids for my two to play with on my street ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    HughFreakingDillon said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Whenever you see them... smile, wave, engage in discussion if discussion presents itself.

    If their kid is unavailable to play for whatever reason... your daughter should play with another kid.

    Don't overthink things here. They're just your neighbours.

    I'm not overthinking things. it's just a shame to have one of her best friends a few houses away and she can't see her. it's just weird. I'm just trying to engage in a discussion on how I can best approach a possible cultural divide. that's all.
    It might be cultural. It might be overprotectiveness. It might be (and probably is) a blend of both.

    Either way... it's their issue. Just remain friendly and until such a day occurs where they feel they can let their daughter out to enjoy life... make sure your's does.
    no, it's not just their issue. my daughter would like to play with her friend. the other part I keep mentioning......there is no "remaining friendly". I don't see them. I have NEVER seen them. only my wife has, when she went to their house. we share a back lane that they don't use. so either I go to their house and talk to them, or my daughter doesn't get to play with her friend. simple as that.

    and in the spirit of being a good neighbour, I'd like to make them feel comfortable if that is the issue. but also in the spirit of respecting people's beliefs and/or privacy, i don't want to do anything to upset anyone. that's all.
    And what if they simply want nothing to do with you? Do you think forcing the issue is a good thing?

    You can only do so much. Your daughter might want to play with their daugther, but it won't be the first time she experiences rejection of some form.

    And it is as simple as that- just as I expressed earlier (don't overthink this).
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,771
    edited April 2016
    jesus christ, dude. I've never met them. I'm not forcing a thing. i'm asking people here their opinions, as I thought it might a religious issue. my daughter feels no rejection. this was my idea, not hers. she's not bothered by it. they play together at school. I just thought it would be nice for her to have the option of playing with one of her best friends who happens to live so close to her. she's getting to the age where she can move about the neighbourhood without us, so it would be nice if she had her friend as a companion instead of her nagging little sister.

    please move on. since you are clearly missing the point and just looking to argue.
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