My letter to Gov McRory
Dear Governor,
I was quite excited to see Pearl Jam play in Raleigh, unfortunately due to your recently enacted curtailing of freedom for transgender people and your bigoted laws restricting their activities our favorite band has cancelled their appearance and we are stuck with the bill for our travel. Since this is truly your fault I hold you responsible and would like you to rescind the bigoted laws you have passed and refund my travel expenses. You can contact me at the above email to discuss your method of repayment.
The lives of transgender people are difficult in the best of circumstances, due to constantly being targets of descriminaton the suicide rate is very high as is the rate of hate crimes and violence agaist them. It is unacceptable for a governmental of the people to further contribute to their harassment and descriminaton. Imagine, just for a moment, spending every waking hour feeling like you were born into the wrong body, fearing physical violence by small minded bigots, and then add to that a state government making descriminaton against you the law of the land.
Please do the right thing, these are good people trying and struggling to get through life and you are further burdening them.
Please do the right thing. Stop legalizing hatred.
Sincerely
Joshua L Busch, MD
Cara A Oliver, MD
I was quite excited to see Pearl Jam play in Raleigh, unfortunately due to your recently enacted curtailing of freedom for transgender people and your bigoted laws restricting their activities our favorite band has cancelled their appearance and we are stuck with the bill for our travel. Since this is truly your fault I hold you responsible and would like you to rescind the bigoted laws you have passed and refund my travel expenses. You can contact me at the above email to discuss your method of repayment.
The lives of transgender people are difficult in the best of circumstances, due to constantly being targets of descriminaton the suicide rate is very high as is the rate of hate crimes and violence agaist them. It is unacceptable for a governmental of the people to further contribute to their harassment and descriminaton. Imagine, just for a moment, spending every waking hour feeling like you were born into the wrong body, fearing physical violence by small minded bigots, and then add to that a state government making descriminaton against you the law of the land.
Please do the right thing, these are good people trying and struggling to get through life and you are further burdening them.
Please do the right thing. Stop legalizing hatred.
Sincerely
Joshua L Busch, MD
Cara A Oliver, MD
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What this law says...is...a person born male who has a sex change to become female, NOW has to use the mens room. Or....a woman who had a sex change to become a man, now has to use the womens room.
Among other garbage.
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That is my concern.
What this law ACTUALLY does is make transwomen have to use the mens room. And transmen have to use the womens room. Which....not only makes it WORSE for all the little girls out there....its inherently dangerous and bigoted to make a transwoman use the mens room, because at birth she had a penis. Or to make a transman use the womens room.
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I am a father of two daughters, and am 100% against this law.
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So, a transwoman might still be pre-surgery....(or never able to afford the surgery)but she lives her life as a woman.
Under this law....when you go to the bathroom, transwomen (penis or not) should legally be using the bathroom with you. Does that make you comfortable?
Or put it this way. A transman (woman to man) may not have surgery to get a vagina, but still identify as a man. Do you want that man to use the bathroom with your daughters?
But worse....lets say a transwoman used the mens room....what might happen to her in that bathroom? Is a transwoman more or less likely to be ridiculed when using the womans room or the mens room?
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Went to a ballgame the other day...and here were my 2 choices....
Send her to the womens room...where i i have to trust everyone will be nice to her, and she gets out safe....or...take her with me to the mens room....which is a disgusting place with 30 drunk smelly men yelling profanities.
So...a family bathroom would solve this.
Now...think of a transwoman....where does she go? The.mens room? According to this law....thats where she has to go. But if she went to the womens room....yeah, a bigoted woman could report her.
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From another doctor - that knows how to spell!
1. There's no evidence whatsoever that the "loophole or gray area" that this law purports to close was or is actually being exploited by any criminals. I suppose one could argue that that's only because the loophole/gray area didn't really exist before, and that the various municipalities of North Carolina were about to foolishly create it and open the pedophile floodgates before Pat McRory and the crime fighters in the NC state legislature stepped in to save them from themselves. But in order to do so, one would have to invest your 240 pound sex offender straw man with an awfully crippling fear of getting a ticket for loitering in the wrong lavatory.
2. To the extent that sexual harassment and assault in bathrooms is an actual societal problem, we have other laws that address that behavior, laws that are not based on or limited by the gender identity of the perpetrator, and certainly not by the degree to which he or she resembles the silhouette outside of the bathroom door. If there's some sort of problematic behavior occurring that those laws are not sufficiently addressing, the correct answer is to revise or update those laws, ideally in a way that does not have the primary effect of humiliating large numbers of innocent people. In other words, if lawmakers were concerned about protecting people from harassment or assault in public bathrooms, they'd pass laws prohibiting harassing or assaulting people in public bathrooms.
3. If, on the other hand, they were concerned with scoring political points by whaling on a minority group that a lot of people still think of as icky and weird, they'd pass something like HB2. I recognize and appreciate that, in thinking about this issue, you're careful to keep in mind that your straw man with the 5 o'clock shadow is not actually a transsexual - however, it's no accident that that's a distinction you had to make in the first place. The people behind these laws see trans folks as sexual deviants and/or predators, and want you to do the same. The unique and internal nature of gender identity issues make them difficult for cis people to empathize with, and that makes the transgender community an easy target.
4. Even if we accepted the premise that allowing people to use the bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity makes your daughter marginally less safe, and further accepted that there is simply no other, better way to ameliorate that incremental risk, we'd still have to contend with the question of whether the discrimination incurred as the cost of that safety is something that we, as a society, can tolerate. Your position (and I'm putting words in your mouth here) that the additional risk to your daughter in unacceptable regardless of the law's impact on other people is understandable on an emotional level but, I hope you'll agree, untenable in a society that regards other values (e.g. equality) as just as important as safety. In the real world this balancing of priorities is a question of constitutional law that is a little too deep for the Pearl Jam message board, but I'm sure you don't mean that eliminating all bathroom dangers to you daughter is worth any cost whatsoever (in that case, the law you'd want is one that says only she can use public restrooms), so it's important to be clear that what you're really saying is that you've balanced the rights and dignity of trans people against a purely hypothetical threat to your daughter, and come to the conclusion that you're willing to disregard the rights and dignity of this specific set of people in favor of protecting her from that hypothetical threat.
Hope this helps in explaining where opponents of these laws, many of whom have daughters ourselves, are coming from. At the risk of insulting you, I'm afraid that you've been sold a bill of goods by whoever it is that you listen to on these topics, who for their own purposes continue to foster the connection that many people have been taught to make between transgender people and sex offenders.
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I am sad. Only GA of tour. I ultimately agree with it and will just have to deal with visiting friends in NC instead of seeing a show.
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What if your daughter goes into a bathroom and there is a female paedophile in there? What if you drive to work and get hit by a truck? What if your computer blows up whilst reading this? What if aliens come to earth and save only the LGBT community?
Its disgusting to claim that anyone who is from the LGBT community or even claiming to be will have links with paedophiles just because they may identify their gender differently. Gender identity does not link to perversions in the same way homosexuality is not directly or even slightly linked to paedophilia. Also do you not think that someone who might "exploit" this would do better than going into a toilet where parents are waiting outside.
I think you seriously need to re-think your standpoint on this. I understand having your childrens best interests at heart but they are probably more likely to be shot at school or in a cinema than be attacked by a transgendered paedophile.
I saw someone on this forum say they weren't going to the Florida shows with their pregnant wife because of the zika virus. The nation of fear is fully realised
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For example, if you support this law, you are saying you want this "woman" aka a trans man in the women's room with your daughter, as opposed to him using the men's room?!
And he is a public trans activist, so not an issue to share these images, since he has been going into women's rooms and taking these pics for activism.
So, that is who you legally WANT to ensure IS required to use the ladies room with your daughters? Just checking. (Not that any harm or foul play would happen to them if they were in there with him, he seems like a sweet guy from my social media interactions with him.
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if a male pedophile wants to go to the lengths of dressing up as a woman to get to your/my daughters, they would do it regardless of any stupid law or the absence of it.
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