THIS IS BULLS**T

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  • ambst95
    ambst95 Posts: 125
    edited April 2016
    AlaG said:

    Big shows like this bring boatloads of tourist dollars to the state, especially when several other artists follow suit. This decision doesn't just negatively affect the 20k people who were going to be in attendance, it negatively affects the lawmakers and the people who support them as well.

    This was the right decision.

    If they gave further notice, no problem. The venue would've just found another big name to fill that vacant date.


    So basically I'm now going to NC as I have a flight, hotel, PTO already nonrefundable and spend more money as I now need something to do. A week ago, I could have cancelled hotel and gotten out of my PTO. The state will take a small bump but would have taken a larger one if cancelled 2 weeks ago.


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  • DischordVision
    DischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    edited April 2016
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  • DT164689
    DT164689 Posts: 4
    It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,634
    Glad everyone understands what this is about.
  • Wma31394
    Wma31394 Posts: 3,045
    DT164689 said:

    It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan

    Yea bad move by the band..spin doctors could use some fans though..peace out
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,014
    DT164689 said:

    It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan

    Every hotel I've ever booked has a 24 hour cancellation policy.
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  • mdarya
    mdarya The middle Posts: 74
    edited April 2016
    I am not against the bands protesting the law. 7 days notice or more would allow for a lot the fans to makes cancellations and not take a financial hit and would still allow the band to protest. Why wait so long?
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  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,072
    I'm sure the band cancelled all their travel arrangements before today.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • DischordVision
    DischordVision SEAttle by way of WNY Posts: 532
    edited April 2016
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    my thoughts exactly!
    typical leftist rockstars
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  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    edited April 2016
    on2legs said:

    DT164689 said:

    It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan

    Every hotel I've ever booked has a 24 hour cancellation policy.
    Which would have been earlier today for a lot of people.
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  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    ComeToTX said:

    I'm sure the band cancelled all their travel arrangements before today.

    Or maybe they had hope that the NC legislators would pull their heads out of their asses and acquire some basic human decency.. Who knows really?
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    This is definitely the subject to get fired up about. Who uses what bathrooms. Let's get real. Every other problem in the world is a very distant second.
  • duffmann
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  • jasonrolfe
    jasonrolfe Posts: 474
    BN8419 said:

    You're supposed to be pissed people.

    That's the point.

    Now get off your ass and do something with your anger that repeals this or helps prevent this type of thing in other states.

    Well said
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  • earthquakes making waves
    earthquakes making waves Posts: 296
    No, no, no. Bad form overall PJ. 2 days before the show is unacceptable. This has been an issue for quite some time and plenty could have been done already such as:
    1) Inform us that this decision may take place, not a thought about people traveling such as airfare, hotels, etc. We could then also call the venue to support PJs protest. At this point, the venue still gets payed for the booking and the food/bev people are really the ones getting screwed besides the fans that are "in the fight". Not well thought out.
    2) Donate proceeds to the correct organizations, dunno who they are talking to but it doesn't sound like they are in touch with the correct people
    3) Realize this is a place where a stand can be made in support of the LGBT community, with most everyone there in support of the right cause it's a place to create the type of atmosphere that some NCarolinians (politicians) apparently need. Create a larger spark to hopefully get the appeal laws moved up sooner. We are obviously not the enemy and the band has grouped NC residents together. As one I can say that most everyone I speak with (including LGBT friends I have) from this state oppose the political decisions and actions that have already been made by "shit politicians," we are trying to get rid of. By them not participating is just not what I expect out of this group. Use the opportunity.

    In summary: Totally agree with the "shit political decisions," however this is not the correct way to go about it, disappointed to say the least...
  • Hoccapuk
    Hoccapuk Posts: 538
    "The NBA is still planning to hold its 2017 All-Star Game in Charlotte. Commissioner Adam Silver said the NBA would have more leverage to change the law by keeping the game in the city and pressuring lawmakers."

    Hmmm the NBA gets it...
  • jxchamb1
    jxchamb1 Posts: 82
    The band is kinda stuck in a lose-lose situation. They chose to hold true to their convictions at the risk of pissing off pretty much everybody that had tickets. But if they played the show then people would say that they were selling out.
    At the end of the day Pearl Jam decided to support the rights of millions at the expense of 20K fans. I expected them to do this and I would have been shocked if they didn't. Makes me proud to be a Pearl Jam fan.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,000
    jxchamb1 said:

    The band is kinda stuck in a lose-lose situation. They chose to hold true to their convictions at the risk of pissing off pretty much everybody that had tickets. But if they played the show then people would say that they were selling out.
    At the end of the day Pearl Jam decided to support the rights of millions at the expense of 20K fans. I expected them to do this and I would have been shocked if they didn't. Makes me proud to be a Pearl Jam fan.

    Their great music makes me proud to be a fan. But that's it.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    I would definitely be upset if a concert i was going to got cancelled, esp if I had a hotel room, flight, etc. I would also be upset if i wasnt afforded the basic freedom to use the restroom that suits my gender.

    Its sorta like being white, and being uspet that the bus was cancelled because Rosa Parks wasnt allowed in the front. Yes, you can be upset you didnt get to work that day....but a whole group of people dont have some basic rights. So, in the end, I would understand. Its definitely upsetting when you dont get to see the band you love. But its more upsetting when a huge group of americans are being denied rights.

    My suggestion...if you have unrefundable tickets, see if you can transfer them to another state. If not, go on your vacation and enjoy your pto, knowing that you dont have to worry about some of the same problems that trans people have to deal with. And maybe join the fight.

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  • joseph33
    joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
    Im not even going to this show and im pissed. This is by no means excused from letting down very loyal fans of many years. If they wanted to make a statement they should have never of played 4 Florida shows to open a tour with. I'm cancelling my membership in protest to the insensitivity of the band who put hard working people out of a lot of money to see the band they love. If you have a shred of moral convictions,you'll do the same.
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