This definitely sucks for those who had tickets to Raleigh but if they cancelled the show any sooner it would of given the venue an opportunity to book something else in it's place therefore minimizing the financial impact. The whole point of cancelling the show at the last minute is to hit the community where it hurts most, the wallet. Eventually, well hopefully, the citizens of NC will grow tired of everyone boycotting their state and demand their representatives and law makers to repeal the law.
I'm actually very surprised at how many fans have voiced their displeasure with the band for taking a stance on the issue and following suit with the other artist who have recently cancelled their shows in NC.
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This definitely sucks for those who had tickets to Raleigh but if they cancelled the show any sooner it would of given the venue an opportunity to book something else in it's place therefore minimizing the financial impact. The whole point of cancelling the show at the last minute is to hit the community where it hurts most, the wallet. Eventually, well hopefully, the citizens of NC will grow tired of everyone boycotting their state and demand their representatives and law makers to repeal the law.
I'm actually very surprised at how many fans have voiced their displeasure with the band for taking a stance on the issue and following suit with the other artist who have recently cancelled their shows in NC.
Fans are pissed cause this is also hitting them where it hurts, their wallets. People are already there, already have flights booked and paid for. If they cancelled a week ago I highly doubt the venue gets anyone to play there and it gives people a chance to cancel hotels and work on changing their flights.
This definitely sucks for those who had tickets to Raleigh but if they cancelled the show any sooner it would of given the venue an opportunity to book something else in it's place therefore minimizing the financial impact. The whole point of cancelling the show at the last minute is to hit the community where it hurts most, the wallet. Eventually, well hopefully, the citizens of NC will grow tired of everyone boycotting their state and demand their representatives and law makers to repeal the law.
I'm actually very surprised at how many fans have voiced their displeasure with the band for taking a stance on the issue and following suit with the other artist who have recently cancelled their shows in NC.
lol... really? How many Arena sized bands can you book on 10 days notice?
I don't think people are mad at PJ for taking a stand, I think people are mad at PJ that the notice was so short. I don't buy the rebooking exuse at all. Had PJ cancelled last week. I severely doubt the venue would of found another arena sized band to come in that short notice. It also wouldn't matter if it was on excactly the same night. If they cancel PJ, they can't sub your tickets for Ice Cube. They'd have to refund all the tickets, and re do the show as an Ice Cube show. At that point it wouldn't matter if it was on the same night or a few weeks later.
This definitely sucks for those who had tickets to Raleigh but if they cancelled the show any sooner it would of given the venue an opportunity to book something else in it's place therefore minimizing the financial impact. The whole point of cancelling the show at the last minute is to hit the community where it hurts most, the wallet. Eventually, well hopefully, the citizens of NC will grow tired of everyone boycotting their state and demand their representatives and law makers to repeal the law.
I'm actually very surprised at how many fans have voiced their displeasure with the band for taking a stance on the issue and following suit with the other artist who have recently cancelled their shows in NC.
lol... really? How many Arena sized bands can you book on 10 days notice?
COMPLETE HORESHIT. As someone that was going, I'm disappointed but understand. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS that's it's 48 hours away. There are non-refundable flightts, hotels, ticket swaps, etc. AT LEAST HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT WITH SOME WARNING SO YOU DON'T LEAVE THOUSANDS HIGH AND DRY.
Yup they could have canceled a week ago or even a month ago! Riding Bruce's coattails! If he hadn't have canceled pj wouldn't have. Everyone knows it!
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Big shows like this bring boatloads of tourist dollars to the state, especially when several other artists follow suit. This decision doesn't just negatively affect the 20k people who were going to be in attendance, it negatively affects the lawmakers and the people who support them as well.
This was the right decision.
If they gave further notice, no problem. The venue would've just found another big name to fill that vacant date.
So basically I'm now going to NC as I have a flight, hotel, PTO already nonrefundable and spend more money as I now need something to do. A week ago, I could have cancelled hotel and gotten out of my PTO. The state will take a small bump but would have taken a larger one if cancelled 2 weeks ago.
It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan
It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan
Yea bad move by the band..spin doctors could use some fans though..peace out
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It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan
Every hotel I've ever booked has a 24 hour cancellation policy.
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I am not against the bands protesting the law. 7 days notice or more would allow for a lot the fans to makes cancellations and not take a financial hit and would still allow the band to protest. Why wait so long?
It is with Deep Consideration that @pearljam waits until just before 48 hours to cancel Raleigh, that way local hotels aren't affected as no reservations can be cancelled. #Fans&TransLOSE #PearlJamAreFollowersNotLeaders #LostAFan
Every hotel I've ever booked has a 24 hour cancellation policy.
Which would have been earlier today for a lot of people.
This is definitely the subject to get fired up about. Who uses what bathrooms. Let's get real. Every other problem in the world is a very distant second.
Now get off your ass and do something with your anger that repeals this or helps prevent this type of thing in other states.
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No, no, no. Bad form overall PJ. 2 days before the show is unacceptable. This has been an issue for quite some time and plenty could have been done already such as: 1) Inform us that this decision may take place, not a thought about people traveling such as airfare, hotels, etc. We could then also call the venue to support PJs protest. At this point, the venue still gets payed for the booking and the food/bev people are really the ones getting screwed besides the fans that are "in the fight". Not well thought out. 2) Donate proceeds to the correct organizations, dunno who they are talking to but it doesn't sound like they are in touch with the correct people 3) Realize this is a place where a stand can be made in support of the LGBT community, with most everyone there in support of the right cause it's a place to create the type of atmosphere that some NCarolinians (politicians) apparently need. Create a larger spark to hopefully get the appeal laws moved up sooner. We are obviously not the enemy and the band has grouped NC residents together. As one I can say that most everyone I speak with (including LGBT friends I have) from this state oppose the political decisions and actions that have already been made by "shit politicians," we are trying to get rid of. By them not participating is just not what I expect out of this group. Use the opportunity.
In summary: Totally agree with the "shit political decisions," however this is not the correct way to go about it, disappointed to say the least...
"The NBA is still planning to hold its 2017 All-Star Game in Charlotte. Commissioner Adam Silver said the NBA would have more leverage to change the law by keeping the game in the city and pressuring lawmakers."
The band is kinda stuck in a lose-lose situation. They chose to hold true to their convictions at the risk of pissing off pretty much everybody that had tickets. But if they played the show then people would say that they were selling out. At the end of the day Pearl Jam decided to support the rights of millions at the expense of 20K fans. I expected them to do this and I would have been shocked if they didn't. Makes me proud to be a Pearl Jam fan.
The band is kinda stuck in a lose-lose situation. They chose to hold true to their convictions at the risk of pissing off pretty much everybody that had tickets. But if they played the show then people would say that they were selling out. At the end of the day Pearl Jam decided to support the rights of millions at the expense of 20K fans. I expected them to do this and I would have been shocked if they didn't. Makes me proud to be a Pearl Jam fan.
Their great music makes me proud to be a fan. But that's it.
I would definitely be upset if a concert i was going to got cancelled, esp if I had a hotel room, flight, etc. I would also be upset if i wasnt afforded the basic freedom to use the restroom that suits my gender.
Its sorta like being white, and being uspet that the bus was cancelled because Rosa Parks wasnt allowed in the front. Yes, you can be upset you didnt get to work that day....but a whole group of people dont have some basic rights. So, in the end, I would understand. Its definitely upsetting when you dont get to see the band you love. But its more upsetting when a huge group of americans are being denied rights.
My suggestion...if you have unrefundable tickets, see if you can transfer them to another state. If not, go on your vacation and enjoy your pto, knowing that you dont have to worry about some of the same problems that trans people have to deal with. And maybe join the fight.
Im not even going to this show and im pissed. This is by no means excused from letting down very loyal fans of many years. If they wanted to make a statement they should have never of played 4 Florida shows to open a tour with. I'm cancelling my membership in protest to the insensitivity of the band who put hard working people out of a lot of money to see the band they love. If you have a shred of moral convictions,you'll do the same.
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I'm actually very surprised at how many fans have voiced their displeasure with the band for taking a stance on the issue and following suit with the other artist who have recently cancelled their shows in NC.
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I don't think people are mad at PJ for taking a stand, I think people are mad at PJ that the notice was so short. I don't buy the rebooking exuse at all. Had PJ cancelled last week. I severely doubt the venue would of found another arena sized band to come in that short notice. It also wouldn't matter if it was on excactly the same night. If they cancel PJ, they can't sub your tickets for Ice Cube. They'd have to refund all the tickets, and re do the show as an Ice Cube show. At that point it wouldn't matter if it was on the same night or a few weeks later.
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So basically I'm now going to NC as I have a flight, hotel, PTO already nonrefundable and spend more money as I now need something to do. A week ago, I could have cancelled hotel and gotten out of my PTO. The state will take a small bump but would have taken a larger one if cancelled 2 weeks ago.
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my thoughts exactly!
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1) Inform us that this decision may take place, not a thought about people traveling such as airfare, hotels, etc. We could then also call the venue to support PJs protest. At this point, the venue still gets payed for the booking and the food/bev people are really the ones getting screwed besides the fans that are "in the fight". Not well thought out.
2) Donate proceeds to the correct organizations, dunno who they are talking to but it doesn't sound like they are in touch with the correct people
3) Realize this is a place where a stand can be made in support of the LGBT community, with most everyone there in support of the right cause it's a place to create the type of atmosphere that some NCarolinians (politicians) apparently need. Create a larger spark to hopefully get the appeal laws moved up sooner. We are obviously not the enemy and the band has grouped NC residents together. As one I can say that most everyone I speak with (including LGBT friends I have) from this state oppose the political decisions and actions that have already been made by "shit politicians," we are trying to get rid of. By them not participating is just not what I expect out of this group. Use the opportunity.
In summary: Totally agree with the "shit political decisions," however this is not the correct way to go about it, disappointed to say the least...
Hmmm the NBA gets it...
At the end of the day Pearl Jam decided to support the rights of millions at the expense of 20K fans. I expected them to do this and I would have been shocked if they didn't. Makes me proud to be a Pearl Jam fan.
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Its sorta like being white, and being uspet that the bus was cancelled because Rosa Parks wasnt allowed in the front. Yes, you can be upset you didnt get to work that day....but a whole group of people dont have some basic rights. So, in the end, I would understand. Its definitely upsetting when you dont get to see the band you love. But its more upsetting when a huge group of americans are being denied rights.
My suggestion...if you have unrefundable tickets, see if you can transfer them to another state. If not, go on your vacation and enjoy your pto, knowing that you dont have to worry about some of the same problems that trans people have to deal with. And maybe join the fight.
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