Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited April 2016
    Badass character for sure, but Anakin or Obi-Wan from the prequels would kill him in 2 swings, he is incredibly slow.

    Edit* Jedi are supposed to be freaking ninja masters with super focus and superhuman reflexes, original Darth was just too slow and clumsy. Maybe Darth Maul was a little too showy, but shouldn't a Jedi at least be faster than a barely choreographed 7 foot tall guy wearing a cumbersome costume?

    2nd edit* Vader seems to be about the same speed as the Hound, who wears at least 50lbs of steel armor and swings at least a 20lb sword.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559

    polaris_x said:

    polaris_x said:

    i just finished watching episodes 4-6 and darth vader is not really that bad ass ... his fight scenes were all pretty lame ... sure, force choking a general from another room is cool but that's about it ...

    definitely no yoda ...

    Is this a joke or something?
    no ... feel free to link a scene where vader looks bad ass ...
    First of all, Vader looks bad ass in every scene. He was particularly awesome against Luke Skywalker in the best Star wars movie that has still ever been made. It's called The Empire Strikes Back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DeI3ohVbY
    ok ... to each their own ...
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    prequels - didn't feel like the original trilogy, booooo
    the force awakens - felt too much like the original trilogy, booooo

    can't have it both ways. i love me my star wars, and the more star wars the better in my opinion. rogue one will look and feel exactly like the force awakens, and that's not a bad thing.
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    and the only time vader did not look menacing was during his big "reveal" at the end of ROTJ.

    oh, vader was just a 75 year old brit :lol:
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,963
    rgambs said:

    Badass character for sure, but Anakin or Obi-Wan from the prequels would kill him in 2 swings, he is incredibly slow.

    Edit* Jedi are supposed to be freaking ninja masters with super focus and superhuman reflexes, original Darth was just too slow and clumsy. Maybe Darth Maul was a little too showy, but shouldn't a Jedi at least be faster than a barely choreographed 7 foot tall guy wearing a cumbersome costume?

    2nd edit* Vader seems to be about the same speed as the Hound, who wears at least 50lbs of steel armor and swings at least a 20lb sword.

    From Wookiepedia:
    'The suit provided a suite of life-support systems and gave Vader relatively free movement without having to use a hoverchair.
    The armor encased Vader completely, creating a hermetic seal to protect his charred skin and lungs. It was also uncomfortable to wear. Vader slowly learned to live with the isolation and anonymity that the suit imposed on him. Vader had to change his lightsaber style to compensate for the weight, bulk, and inflexibility of his armor. The electronics of the suit were sensitive to electrical discharges, though Vader added a limited amount of insulation to the suit after discovering this. To escape the armor's claustrophobic nature, Vader had several pressurized meditation chambers built where he could remove his mask and suit and still survive. Vader longed to be less dependent on his armor, and tried at times to function without it, but he labored in vain.

    Despite the weaknesses imparted by the suit, it also provided a number of strengths. These included greatly enhanced durability and stamina, numerous sensory enhancements, and protection from extremely inhospitable environments and biological weaponry.'
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Vader's_armor

    Man I am dorking out!
  • Jason P
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    edited April 2016
    rgambs said:


    Edit* Jedi are supposed to be freaking ninja masters with super focus and superhuman reflexes,

    not in the original trilogy. i don't think lucas really had a clear vision on what a jedi should *be* as he was kind of making everything up as he went along. in a new hope, aren't they kind of referred to as a warrior? no one really knew what a jedi was other than ben (who has aged drastically from his jedi days) & yoda (who you never see do battle) were the last of them, and luke was training to become one.

    the vader/obi wan duel is pretty goofy, i will admit. but almost as goofy as yoda/palpatine's duel in revenge of the sith (completely over the top fight scene). i'd rather see a more realstic duel that we saw in empire -- luke/vader. thought that was good battle of physical combat and force.

    edit: and rewind to to a new hope. yoda didn't exist, luke was just a farm boy, ben was the only jedi we knew of. didn't know what luke's path would be as a new hope was suppose to be a one and done movie.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    rival. said:

    rgambs said:


    Edit* Jedi are supposed to be freaking ninja masters with super focus and superhuman reflexes,

    not in the original trilogy. i don't think lucas really had a clear vision on what a jedi should *be* as he was kind of making everything up as he went along. in a new hope, aren't they kind of referred to as a warrior? no one really knew what a jedi was other than ben (who has aged drastically from his jedi days) & yoda (who you never see do battle) were the last of them, and luke was training to become one.

    the vader/obi wan duel is pretty goofy, i will admit. but almost as goofy as yoda/palpatine's duel in revenge of the sith (completely over the top fight scene). i'd rather see a more realstic duel that we saw in empire -- luke/vader. thought that was good battle of physical combat and force.

    edit: and rewind to to a new hope. yoda didn't exist, luke was just a farm boy, ben was the only jedi we knew of. didn't know what luke's path would be as a new hope was suppose to be a one and done movie.
    That's true, but it has become a pretty accepted and unavoidable part of Jedi mythology in the years since.
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    JimmyV said:

    Rygar said:

    JimmyV said:

    Darth effing Vader is coming.

    'nuff said.

    Enough of Vader.
    Disagree. Enough of Anakin Skywalker and whining. Bad ass Darth Vader doing bad ass Darth Vader shit? Sign me up.

    I disagree, I like Vader but it's been done. Maybe they'll make a DV solo movie for you.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    As long as it is light on Fetts...
    Boba Fett is the most overrated and overinflated character ever, and D'Jango was little better!
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    rgambs said:

    As long as it is light on Fetts...
    Boba Fett is the most overrated and overinflated character ever, and D'Jango was little better!

    agreed. fett and jabba need to stay away from this movie.
  • Mignelli14
    Mignelli14 Posts: 626
    All I have to say is that there better be plenty of Bothan spies sacrificing themselves in this movie
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238

    All I have to say is that there better be plenty of Bothan spies sacrificing themselves in this movie

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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775

    All I have to say is that there better be plenty of Bothan spies sacrificing themselves in this movie

    Hmm, didn't they steal the plans to the second Death Star, not the first?

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    edited April 2016
    rival. said:

    All I have to say is that there better be plenty of Bothan spies sacrificing themselves in this movie

    Hmm, didn't they steal the plans to the second Death Star, not the first?

    Yes. The many Bothans died line is something Mon Mothma says in Return Of The Jedi. The first Death Star plans are stolen by the "rebel spies" mentioned in the Episode IV opening crawl. Which to me as a nerd makes Rogue One extra cool because it's a story we first heard about 40 years ago!

    EDIT: Like all things related to Star Wars, the original opening crawl has been changed by Lucas here and there. This I do believe is the original version.

    https://youtu.be/UKRIUiyF0N4
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  • Mignelli14
    Mignelli14 Posts: 626
    Wow I'm not used to getting corrected in Star Wars trivia. Bravo!
    I'm just gonna head on over to the dark side out of pure embarrassment/bewilderment/rage. I'll keep you posted on how it turns out
  • JTH
    JTH Chicago Posts: 3,238

    Wow I'm not used to getting corrected in Star Wars trivia. Bravo!
    I'm just gonna head on over to the dark side out of pure embarrassment/bewilderment/rage. I'll keep you posted on how it turns out

    You are not the first person I've seen mention wanting to see Bothans in this movie.

    I'm trying to remember. Did the Bothans actually steal the plans to the second Death Star or did they just get the information about the shield generator, the fact that the Emperor would be there, etc.?

    I mean, it wasn't like they really needed to analyze plans to find a weakness. The ginormous gaping holes in the side of the thing were pretty obvious weaknesses, right?

    Anyway...
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Haha, nice
  • OffSheGoes35
    OffSheGoes35 Posts: 3,517
    ^^That poster is sweet!

    Are the stormtroopers surfing? That would make it even sweeter!