America's Fifth Great Awakening

There have been two major "Great Awakenings" and four overall in American History. This is where society decides for a short time to celebrate conservatism, and strict Christian religions get a huge boost in followers.

I think right now we are headed that way, or at least a modernized version of it (1960s-1980s being considered the last awakening). With every Great Awakening, there is a major spokesperson. Jonathon Edwards was that of the first awakening, a man who preached the anguish and torment of hell, and drove fear into those who sin. With the ways things are going, Trump will be the next awakening's spokesperson. As a society, we are getting more progressive with each day; but a pattern in American history dictates that at some point, this progression will hit a wall, take a step back, and begin another period of progression. At each point where this progression comes to a halt, there is a large group of people that would like society to go back to the way it once was (Trump supporters want to go back to the 70s and 80s (aka the last Great Awakening)).

What I am getting is at is that it is our duty as American citizens to smother this Awakening before it is too late. Just because there is a pattern in history doesn't mean we have to follow it, we are finally catching up to the progressive nations over seas, and we have a chance to be ahead of the game and lead the world once again. All it comes down to is whether you are going to buy into the Awakening or not, your choice.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I feel this latest awakening has been spear-headed by the Kardashians
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,538
    Jason P said:

    I feel this latest awakening has been spear-headed by the Kardashians

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    Impossible! Then I wouldn't like him.
  • brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    Impossible! Then I wouldn't like him.
    https://youtu.be/IW7c4YKK6eI
  • brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    Impossible! Then I wouldn't like him.
    https://youtu.be/IW7c4YKK6eI
    Lots of people in power say they believe in god. Tonnes.
    He is having fun with the brainwashed.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    That goes with how do we know when drumpf is lying?

    His lips are moving
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038

    brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    That goes with how do we know when drumpf is lying?

    His lips are moving
    You doubt the Godly Faithfulness of Drumpf?? Oh, repent, ye sinner!!
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,440

    brianlux said:

    One thing we know for sure: Trump loves the Bible more than anyone. How do we know that? Because he said so!

    Impossible! Then I wouldn't like him.
    https://youtu.be/IW7c4YKK6eI
    Lots of people in power say they believe in god. Tonnes.
    He is having fun with the brainwashed.
    Way to backtrack on your original statement just like the fucking buffoon you support.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?

    If those awakenings lead to Donald Drumpfs lol
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?

    If those awakenings lead to Donald Drumpfs lol
    I guess I shoukd keep that in mind the next time someone makes an "obstructionism" argument....it is the obstructors "duty" after all.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited March 2016
    BS44325 said:

    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?

    Duty as humans for better society to resist the fear mongering and hate and of course false realities.
    Post edited by callen on
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    BS44325 said:

    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?

    If those awakenings lead to Donald Drumpfs lol
    I guess I shoukd keep that in mind the next time someone makes an "obstructionism" argument....it is the obstructors "duty" after all.
    Nice false equivalency there, the populace resisting regression culturally is not the same as elected representatives resisting the normal maintenance of government.
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    BS44325 said:

    Your duty as Americans is to smother awakenings?

    Awakening put us back 30 years in societal development, so yeah
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    We'll see what happens tonight but to date Trump is still getting less than half of the Republican primary vote. He isn't running away with anything. So I question if anything has truly been awoken.
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  • myoung321myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    JimmyV said:

    We'll see what happens tonight but to date Trump is still getting less than half of the Republican primary vote. He isn't running away with anything. So I question if anything has truly been awoken.

    Perspective !!!!
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    myoung321 said:

    JimmyV said:

    We'll see what happens tonight but to date Trump is still getting less than half of the Republican primary vote. He isn't running away with anything. So I question if anything has truly been awoken.

    Perspective !!!!
    Can't have that now can we.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    If by Awakening you mean your favorite book is the bible and as a "believer" you dont think you need to repent of anything , thats an awakening of SOME kind.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    The OP seems to be overgeneralizing without any actual references. Things usually pendulum swing left to right, with the overall trend going left.
  • Who PrincessWho Princess Posts: 7,305
    The Awakenings refer to periods of intense religious activity. I wasn't aware that a 4th Awakening had been recognized. Religious fundamentalism increased throughout the world in the 2nd half of the 20th century but I'm not sure that would be considered an Awakening in the sense that the first 3 were.

    The 3 Awakenings had powerful impacts on religious groups but not necessarily on society as a whole. Considering that the earlier movements were religious trends rather than political, I find it very hard to call Trump's candidacy an Awakening. He's not a member of the clergy or known for his religious teachings. If you want to oppose him, fine, but I wouldn't try to couch it in terms that don't apply.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    Just for a change, it would be great if we had an Awakening to the Three Basic Laws of Ecology:

    1. The law of diversity – that the strength of an eco-system depends upon the diversity in it
    2. The law of interdependence – that all those species are interdependent
    3. The law of finite resources – that there is a gross limit carrying capacity.

    That would gain us much more than yet another wave of myth fanaticism.
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    JimmyV said:

    We'll see what happens tonight but to date Trump is still getting less than half of the Republican primary vote. He isn't running away with anything. So I question if anything has truly been awoken.

    that's still about 25% of the population, his followers mimic an awakening in the fact that they seem to ignore everything horrendous he says or does.

    The OP seems to be overgeneralizing without any actual references. Things usually pendulum swing left to right, with the overall trend going left.

    what do you want me to cite sources? All that was in my OP was well known historical fact, and opinion marked with phrases like "I think".
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    It's not 25% of the population. It's (roughly) 25% of the voters who have participated so far in this primary season. That is way, way less than 25% of the population.
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    edited March 2016
    brianlux said:

    Just for a change, it would be great if we had an Awakening to the Three Basic Laws of Ecology:

    1. The law of diversity – that the strength of an eco-system depends upon the diversity in it
    2. The law of interdependence – that all those species are interdependent
    3. The law of finite resources – that there is a gross limit carrying capacity.

    That would gain us much more than yet another wave of myth fanaticism.

    This has no correlation between societal function, as these laws refer to a community of interacting species. Since we are only talking about humans in the thread this post is completely irrelevant.


    It's like saying "Fish benefit from being in water, so humans must also benefit from being in water."
    JimmyV said:

    It's not 25% of the population. It's (roughly) 25% of the voters who have participated so far in this primary season. That is way, way less than 25% of the population.

    ok now you're just nitpicking, if there is a significant change in the rest of the primaries, I owe you a coke.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    Honestly not trying to nitpick. I just think that the size of the Trump-wing in this electorate is currently overblown. But we'll see.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    ehbacon said:

    brianlux said:

    Just for a change, it would be great if we had an Awakening to the Three Basic Laws of Ecology:

    1. The law of diversity – that the strength of an eco-system depends upon the diversity in it
    2. The law of interdependence – that all those species are interdependent
    3. The law of finite resources – that there is a gross limit carrying capacity.

    That would gain us much more than yet another wave of myth fanaticism.

    This has no correlation between societal function, as these laws refer to a community of interacting species. Since we are only talking about humans in the thread this post is completely irrelevant.


    It's like saying "Fish benefit from being in water, so humans must also benefit from being in water."
    JimmyV said:

    It's not 25% of the population. It's (roughly) 25% of the voters who have participated so far in this primary season. That is way, way less than 25% of the population.

    ok now you're just nitpicking, if there is a significant change in the rest of the primaries, I owe you a coke.
    I would argue that not connecting societal function with the basic laws of nature will be our undoing and thus what I said is highly relevant. But I'm also one of the few here who is biocentrist rather than an anthropocentric so it's no surprise to me to get slammed for my comment. Sorry you didn't like my post but I'm outta here anyway- this place is starting to get rancid (and that is not aimed at you specifically, ehbacon. Your posts are generally well thought out).
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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    edited March 2016
    brianlux said:

    ehbacon said:

    brianlux said:

    Just for a change, it would be great if we had an Awakening to the Three Basic Laws of Ecology:

    1. The law of diversity – that the strength of an eco-system depends upon the diversity in it
    2. The law of interdependence – that all those species are interdependent
    3. The law of finite resources – that there is a gross limit carrying capacity.

    That would gain us much more than yet another wave of myth fanaticism.

    This has no correlation between societal function, as these laws refer to a community of interacting species. Since we are only talking about humans in the thread this post is completely irrelevant.


    It's like saying "Fish benefit from being in water, so humans must also benefit from being in water."
    JimmyV said:

    It's not 25% of the population. It's (roughly) 25% of the voters who have participated so far in this primary season. That is way, way less than 25% of the population.

    ok now you're just nitpicking, if there is a significant change in the rest of the primaries, I owe you a coke.
    I would argue that not connecting societal function with the basic laws of nature will be our undoing and thus what I said is highly relevant. But I'm also one of the few here who is biocentrist rather than an anthropocentric so it's no surprise to me to get slammed for my comment. Sorry you didn't like my post but I'm outta here anyway- this place is starting to get rancid (and that is not aimed at you specifically, ehbacon. Your posts are generally well thought out).
    hey man, rancid is all I could have hoped for :tongue:


    My point there is that the very idea of considering people different species is the center of all the hate in this world, and we shouldn't be preaching that. I think that as one of the most advanced species in the world, we've evolved past some laws of nature. Not to discredit those laws at all though.
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    ehbacon said:

    brianlux said:

    ehbacon said:

    brianlux said:

    Just for a change, it would be great if we had an Awakening to the Three Basic Laws of Ecology:

    1. The law of diversity – that the strength of an eco-system depends upon the diversity in it
    2. The law of interdependence – that all those species are interdependent
    3. The law of finite resources – that there is a gross limit carrying capacity.

    That would gain us much more than yet another wave of myth fanaticism.

    This has no correlation between societal function, as these laws refer to a community of interacting species. Since we are only talking about humans in the thread this post is completely irrelevant.


    It's like saying "Fish benefit from being in water, so humans must also benefit from being in water."
    JimmyV said:

    It's not 25% of the population. It's (roughly) 25% of the voters who have participated so far in this primary season. That is way, way less than 25% of the population.

    ok now you're just nitpicking, if there is a significant change in the rest of the primaries, I owe you a coke.
    I would argue that not connecting societal function with the basic laws of nature will be our undoing and thus what I said is highly relevant. But I'm also one of the few here who is biocentrist rather than an anthropocentric so it's no surprise to me to get slammed for my comment. Sorry you didn't like my post but I'm outta here anyway- this place is starting to get rancid (and that is not aimed at you specifically, ehbacon. Your posts are generally well thought out).
    hey man, rancid is all I could have hoped for :tongue:


    My point there is that the very idea of considering people different species is the center of all the hate in this world, and we shouldn't be preaching that. I think that as one of the most advanced species in the world, we've evolved past some laws of nature. Not to discredit those laws at all though.
    I actually think this assumption is the biggest mistake one can make. We have not evolved past the laws of nature. Man is inherently violent and has not been domesticated to the point where dialogue and understanding can fully achieve a wanted result. There are many who still adhere to backwards ideas and who will use violence to continue their way of life. Unfortunately these people will have to be met head on otherwise civilization as we know it will continue to descend into chaos. Our current way of life is not guaranteed by nature...disorder is the norm of man.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited March 2016
    What a cop out. Humans are perfectly capable of being peaceful and non-violent. Our intellectial capacity isnfar beyond what you are talking about. I think blaming nature on bad behaviour among humans is the worst excuse for assholery ever conceived in the history of excuses. Humankind CAN be peaceful and non-violent. It's just that many people CHOOSE not to be.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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