Half of U.S. women have 'very unfavorable' view of Trump: poll

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,605
    This is a weird thread.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    What claims?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    politics and Politian's have an uncanny ability to turn the citizens they represent against each other,
    very sad but true.

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited March 2016
    human nature thrives on competition therefore we feed on each other's weaknesses to survive and nobody does that better than a Politian....or the CEO's of fortune 500 companies. LOL !

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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,431

    Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
    we aren't going backwards in this country. despite what knucle dragging republican congressmen want to do.
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,530
    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
    we aren't going backwards in this country. despite what knucle dragging republican congressmen want to do.
    this political circus could be the beginning of the end for the republican party IMO. well probably not but surly a restructuring of sorts, maybe even for both parties ?

    Godfather.

  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    hedonist said:

    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
    Do you feel that's acceptable that women are repressed and that it's a huge percentage of women? And I am asking you your opinion, not a fellow poster.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Free said:

    hedonist said:

    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
    Do you feel that's acceptable that women are repressed and that it's a huge percentage of women? And I am asking you your opinion, not a fellow poster.
    Thanks, I know I can - and somehow even manage to! - speak for myself. I also will comment on others' posts and support them or call bullshit as I see fit. Did the former in this case.

    Earlier I mentioned I get how some women feel as they do; I've seen it and experienced it growing up, in my mother's culture. Never said I find it acceptable and it's kind of a strange question to pose.

    "Yeah! Fuck us women, stupid helpless little pansies!"

    Right.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,530
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
    How about rather than responding in an immature and negative way you defend your earlier post to prove the conspiracy theory of collusion between trump and Clinton.

    I'm going to hazard a guess that you can't and won't be able to reasonably defend and prove your conspiracy theory.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,766
    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.
    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.

    Dude you're hilarious, put your head back in the sand why don't you. Even better keep discrediting people, does it make you feel better?
    rgambs doesn't have his head in the sand, and you are the pot calling the kettle black here at any rate.
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,973
    ok, stick to the topic without getting personal with each other. It's heading down the wrong road.

    Half of U.S. women have 'very unfavorable' view of Trump: poll
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,674
    edited March 2016
    Ohhh, thank you KAT!

    Yeah, I think most of us here agree that it's odd that potentially half the women in the US would support someone who is misogynistic. I'm still not sure how that's possible. I remember in the early 70's when the women's movement started to become strong. I never would have imagined we would so many women ok with a misogynist. What a strange thing that is.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Mindset, culture, upbringing, abuse? Myriad of factors, plus not all women in the US were born and/or raised in the US.

    Sad to say some don't or won't question his stances, but it's not inconceivable.

    And, according to the poll only 5,400 women asked about this over a two week period? Surely there are more women here than that :whistle:
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    What claims?
    Claims that they are not in cahoots. Go ahead, prove it. They have an awful lot of history between the two, and Trump and Bill have gone golfing, seen those photos as well. But some claim that I'm now a conspiracy theorist, why? Because they don't want to believe it? They think it's having a pot calling the kettle black? They just want to gang up on other members here because they don't agree with the consensus?

    Yeah. Uh-Huh. It's all black and white here.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
    How about rather than responding in an immature and negative way you defend your earlier post to prove the conspiracy theory of collusion between trump and Clinton.

    I'm going to hazard a guess that you can't and won't be able to reasonably defend and prove your conspiracy theory.
    Do you want more photos? I can post them but they are easily found by googling them. There's Tuump's wedding, some golf outings...

    Listen, If you guys don't want to believe it, that's fine, but don't attack the messenger. Open your eyes, there are a lot of people ON THIS BOARD who have said the same thing. Because it's not a conspiracy.
  • Free
    Free Posts: 3,562
    hedonist said:

    Mindset, culture, upbringing, abuse? Myriad of factors, plus not all women in the US were born and/or raised in the US.

    Sad to say some don't or won't question his stances, but it's not inconceivable.

    And, according to the poll only 5,400 women asked about this over a two week period? Surely there are more women here than that :whistle:

    It is actually inconceivable that only half of that supposed poll support a woman hater.