Half of U.S. women have 'very unfavorable' view of Trump: poll

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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this yesterday.

    Donald Trump will take no prisoners in his attacks on Clinton. Barbara Res, who worked for Trump as an executive for 18 years, told Christiane Amanpour that he has become increasingly negative toward women over the years. “The thing about Donald is that he can sense weakness,” Res added, “and when he senses weakness he will overcome you. There’s no question about it. He has that sense of smell.” Of her years with him, she said, “You had to be a killer with him otherwise you would get killed by him.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathleen-reardon/clinton-getting-tough-wit_b_9479408.html

    I hear you about everything except the Clinton talk. It's well-known they are in cahoots regardless of what he says of her agenda. The so-called competition between the two is not so much of a competition but behind closed door deals.
    Sorry, but this is just laughable. I am not saying it is outside of the realm of possibility, but to say it is well-known??? It is well-theorized by people who believe everything is one giant conspiracy wrapped in a conspiracy.
    Sorry to hear that you don't know, do yourself a favor and Google it, Google tromp Clinton connection especially trump Clinton's photo .
    Oh lordy, I googled it and I went down a rabbit hole that included chemtrails, Illuminati, and Nibiru.
    :dizzy:
    Keep denying reality keep watching the media because they tell you the truth. :confounded:
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    edited March 2016
    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    Kat said:

    Came across this yesterday.

    Donald Trump will take no prisoners in his attacks on Clinton. Barbara Res, who worked for Trump as an executive for 18 years, told Christiane Amanpour that he has become increasingly negative toward women over the years. “The thing about Donald is that he can sense weakness,” Res added, “and when he senses weakness he will overcome you. There’s no question about it. He has that sense of smell.” Of her years with him, she said, “You had to be a killer with him otherwise you would get killed by him.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathleen-reardon/clinton-getting-tough-wit_b_9479408.html

    I hear you about everything except the Clinton talk. It's well-known they are in cahoots regardless of what he says of her agenda. The so-called competition between the two is not so much of a competition but behind closed door deals.
    Sorry, but this is just laughable. I am not saying it is outside of the realm of possibility, but to say it is well-known??? It is well-theorized by people who believe everything is one giant conspiracy wrapped in a conspiracy.
    Sorry to hear that you don't know, do yourself a favor and Google it, Google tromp Clinton connection especially trump Clinton's photo .
    Oh lordy, I googled it and I went down a rabbit hole that included chemtrails, Illuminati, and Nibiru.
    :dizzy:
    Keep denying reality keep watching the media because they tell you the truth. :confounded:
    I don't have television or internet. My sole connection to the outside world is 3 gigs of data/month in my phone. I read articles by educated, respected, and investigative sources from both sides of the divide.
    I don't look to internet conspiracy theorists and believe they tell me the truth, which is no better than watching the MSM and swallowing their garbage.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.
    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.

    Dude you're hilarious, put your head back in the sand why don't you. Even better keep discrediting people, does it make you feel better?
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    Better yet Gambs, keep thinking that they're really true rivals. Just like the media wants everyone to think, just like the country wants the people to think. It's called mind control after all. Keep laughing I'm just laughing back. :lol:
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    If I post a picture of Trump with Neil Young, will you believe that he is behind it all?

    Seriously though, it is entirely possible that your claim is true. I really do believe that.
    I, however, am a lover of science and logic and reason...evidence based ideology guided by compassion is the way I approach life.

    You really don't have any evidence at all. If you were saying "I think" or "it's possible" or even "it seems very likely" I would be right on board with you. Acting like it is a verified fact known by everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand is just crazy. You have zero proof, almost zero evidence, and an arrogant attitude about it, you shouldn't be surprised if you get exactly the dismissive response I gave you.

    Do you believe in Nibiru? Honestly asking.
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  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    If I post a picture of Trump with Neil Young, will you believe that he is behind it all?

    Seriously though, it is entirely possible that your claim is true. I really do believe that.
    I, however, am a lover of science and logic and reason...evidence based ideology guided by compassion is the way I approach life.

    You really don't have any evidence at all. If you were saying "I think" or "it's possible" or even "it seems very likely" I would be right on board with you. Acting like it is a verified fact known by everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand is just crazy. You have zero proof, almost zero evidence, and an arrogant attitude about it, you shouldn't be surprised if you get exactly the dismissive response I gave you.

    Do you believe in Nibiru? Honestly asking.

    Science, logic and reason. Ok. Keep researching. Srsly.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    rgambs said:

    If I post a picture of Trump with Neil Young, will you believe that he is behind it all?

    Seriously though, it is entirely possible that your claim is true. I really do believe that.
    I, however, am a lover of science and logic and reason...evidence based ideology guided by compassion is the way I approach life.

    You really don't have any evidence at all. If you were saying "I think" or "it's possible" or even "it seems very likely" I would be right on board with you. Acting like it is a verified fact known by everyone who doesn't have their head in the sand is just crazy. You have zero proof, almost zero evidence, and an arrogant attitude about it, you shouldn't be surprised if you get exactly the dismissive response I gave you.

    Do you believe in Nibiru? Honestly asking.

    Science?
    Reason?
    Logic?

    YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS :dizzy:

    Next you'll be telling us you believe in reliable and provable facts, figures, data, and evidence.

    Get out of here with that talk.

    Everyone knows the presidential nominees were chosen years ago by a group of old, naked, white billionaires in the woods north of San Francisco.

    Or was it Z.O.G.?
    Or the New World Order?
    Or maybe the Rothschilds

    I get so confused by all the different conspiracy theories.

    Namaste
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.
    Post edited by Free on
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,171
    This is a weird thread.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    What claims?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    politics and Politian's have an uncanny ability to turn the citizens they represent against each other,
    very sad but true.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    edited March 2016
    human nature thrives on competition therefore we feed on each other's weaknesses to survive and nobody does that better than a Politian....or the CEO's of fortune 500 companies. LOL !

    Godfather.
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
  • Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
    we aren't going backwards in this country. despite what knucle dragging republican congressmen want to do.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Free said:

    riotgrl said:

    I think there are groups of women who are very entrenched in a patriarchal society. They are used to, and even want, men to be in charge. They derive their power and sense of worth from their husbands so it makes sense to them that they need someone like Trump.

    Sending the women's movement back 100 years? I have no doubt there are women who are very suppressed from their situations, this is no reason to stand by men who are not helping them, but destroying them. Welcome to today's society.
    If you think women are suppressed in the United States, I wonder what you would call how women are treated in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.
    we aren't going backwards in this country. despite what knucle dragging republican congressmen want to do.
    this political circus could be the beginning of the end for the republican party IMO. well probably not but surly a restructuring of sorts, maybe even for both parties ?

    Godfather.

  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    hedonist said:

    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
    Do you feel that's acceptable that women are repressed and that it's a huge percentage of women? And I am asking you your opinion, not a fellow poster.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Free said:

    hedonist said:

    JimmyV said:

    This is a weird thread.

    No shit!

    Free, to respond to your earlier question to me, I think riotgrl covered it pretty well.
    Do you feel that's acceptable that women are repressed and that it's a huge percentage of women? And I am asking you your opinion, not a fellow poster.
    Thanks, I know I can - and somehow even manage to! - speak for myself. I also will comment on others' posts and support them or call bullshit as I see fit. Did the former in this case.

    Earlier I mentioned I get how some women feel as they do; I've seen it and experienced it growing up, in my mother's culture. Never said I find it acceptable and it's kind of a strange question to pose.

    "Yeah! Fuck us women, stupid helpless little pansies!"

    Right.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,767
    Free said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
    How about rather than responding in an immature and negative way you defend your earlier post to prove the conspiracy theory of collusion between trump and Clinton.

    I'm going to hazard a guess that you can't and won't be able to reasonably defend and prove your conspiracy theory.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,951
    Free said:

    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.
    rgambs said:

    Free said:
    Yawn!
    That is evidence all right, evidence of a sleazy business man greasing a couple of sleazy politicians... What's new?
    If that is the sum total of your evidence, I feel bad for you that you think it is definitive.

    Dude you're hilarious, put your head back in the sand why don't you. Even better keep discrediting people, does it make you feel better?
    rgambs doesn't have his head in the sand, and you are the pot calling the kettle black here at any rate.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    ok, stick to the topic without getting personal with each other. It's heading down the wrong road.

    Half of U.S. women have 'very unfavorable' view of Trump: poll
    Falling down,...not staying down
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
    edited March 2016
    Ohhh, thank you KAT!

    Yeah, I think most of us here agree that it's odd that potentially half the women in the US would support someone who is misogynistic. I'm still not sure how that's possible. I remember in the early 70's when the women's movement started to become strong. I never would have imagined we would so many women ok with a misogynist. What a strange thing that is.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Mindset, culture, upbringing, abuse? Myriad of factors, plus not all women in the US were born and/or raised in the US.

    Sad to say some don't or won't question his stances, but it's not inconceivable.

    And, according to the poll only 5,400 women asked about this over a two week period? Surely there are more women here than that :whistle:
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    What claims?
    Claims that they are not in cahoots. Go ahead, prove it. They have an awful lot of history between the two, and Trump and Bill have gone golfing, seen those photos as well. But some claim that I'm now a conspiracy theorist, why? Because they don't want to believe it? They think it's having a pot calling the kettle black? They just want to gang up on other members here because they don't agree with the consensus?

    Yeah. Uh-Huh. It's all black and white here.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562

    Free said:

    Free said:

    Oh and dismissive responses w/ nothing to back up their claims other than saying "Science, logic and reason" is just as much proof that you have no evidence for your claims.

    Just to be clear....

    The people on here who believe in things like science, reason, logic, data, and common sense should post evidence of their claims.

    But those that post about conspiracy theories don't need to.

    Got it
    Good God. It's not a conspiracy theory. Keep telling yourself that so you can feel like a bigger person.
    How about rather than responding in an immature and negative way you defend your earlier post to prove the conspiracy theory of collusion between trump and Clinton.

    I'm going to hazard a guess that you can't and won't be able to reasonably defend and prove your conspiracy theory.
    Do you want more photos? I can post them but they are easily found by googling them. There's Tuump's wedding, some golf outings...

    Listen, If you guys don't want to believe it, that's fine, but don't attack the messenger. Open your eyes, there are a lot of people ON THIS BOARD who have said the same thing. Because it's not a conspiracy.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    hedonist said:

    Mindset, culture, upbringing, abuse? Myriad of factors, plus not all women in the US were born and/or raised in the US.

    Sad to say some don't or won't question his stances, but it's not inconceivable.

    And, according to the poll only 5,400 women asked about this over a two week period? Surely there are more women here than that :whistle:

    It is actually inconceivable that only half of that supposed poll support a woman hater.
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