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  • the fetishisation of women continues.


    its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

    It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
    It's sad.

    Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
    Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
    I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though :smile:
    the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

    tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...


    Well said.
    I don't know if it's a cultural or geographical thing for people to regard women as lesser but a woman with strong traits is a breath of fresh air.
    its a cultural thing. its deeply embedded in the history of mankind. woman have been made the scapegoats for a shitload of crap throughout 'history'. all you gotta do is flip through the bible... or note how desperate men are to control female reproductive rights.

    No doubt it is deeply embedded.
    I have to ask - Are you of the religious folk?
    Some men want to control reproductive rights. And to that I say they are not men but inhuman.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    Well said.
    I don't know if it's a cultural or geographical thing for people to regard women as lesser but a woman with strong traits is a breath of fresh air.

    its a cultural thing. its deeply embedded in the history of mankind. woman have been made the scapegoats for a shitload of crap throughout 'history'. all you gotta do is flip through the bible... or note how desperate men are to control female reproductive rights.

    No doubt it is deeply embedded.
    I have to ask - Are you of the religious folk?
    Some men want to control reproductive rights. And to that I say they are not men but inhuman.

    tis as if those opposed to reproductive rights want to control something they have zero control over. forcing anyone into an act against their will is slavery.. in this case gestational slavery, pure and simple.


    I am not of the religious folk.

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  • ldent42ldent42 Posts: 7,859

    ldent42 said:

    The fact that trolls are citing the Ghostbusters remake as feminist makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.

    This movie is going to bomb and it is because of the all women casting.
    no.. its gonna bomb regardless of gender because theyre trying to remake a classic the moment bill murray declined to be involved in any sort of remake was the moment film makers should have said hmmm perhaps this is a bad idea.
    yes, I agree. Remakes of any classic at best are a bad idea.
    Doing it with a feminist agenda? - bad idea also.
    I haven't read any post after this one. I have never actually literally face palmed myself until i I read that last sentence.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    how sad. I think we should all do all we can to encourage people to just watch the original.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
    yes hollywood is run by men but lets not absolve the women involved. theyre not slaves... nor indentured workers(as far as I know). they had the choice to say yes or no... and they exercised that choice. on some level they all thought doing this movie was a good idea. personally I just don't see it as a particularly good opportunity for women. tho you never know.. perhaps in time we'll discover one of the actresses involved was able to bring an important piece of film making to fruition because of the pay packet she got by selling her soul doing ghostbusters. *shrugs*

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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
    yes hollywood is run by men but lets not absolve the women involved. theyre not slaves... nor indentured workers(as far as I know). they had the choice to say yes or no... and they exercised that choice. on some level they all thought doing this movie was a good idea. personally I just don't see it as a particularly good opportunity for women. tho you never know.. perhaps in time we'll discover one of the actresses involved was able to bring an important piece of film making to fruition because of the pay packet she got by selling her soul doing ghostbusters. *shrugs*

    Do you mean when an aspiring actress who makes millions clutches her award and spews during her acceptance speech that women are lesser in Hollywood and demand change?
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
    yes hollywood is run by men but lets not absolve the women involved. theyre not slaves... nor indentured workers(as far as I know). they had the choice to say yes or no... and they exercised that choice. on some level they all thought doing this movie was a good idea. personally I just don't see it as a particularly good opportunity for women. tho you never know.. perhaps in time we'll discover one of the actresses involved was able to bring an important piece of film making to fruition because of the pay packet she got by selling her soul doing ghostbusters. *shrugs*

    Do you mean when an aspiring actress who makes millions clutches her award and spews during her acceptance speech that women are lesser in Hollywood and demand change?
    no but but i think once you've made millions and are standing on stage clutching an oscar, youre no longer aspiring. ;)

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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
    yes hollywood is run by men but lets not absolve the women involved. theyre not slaves... nor indentured workers(as far as I know). they had the choice to say yes or no... and they exercised that choice. on some level they all thought doing this movie was a good idea. personally I just don't see it as a particularly good opportunity for women. tho you never know.. perhaps in time we'll discover one of the actresses involved was able to bring an important piece of film making to fruition because of the pay packet she got by selling her soul doing ghostbusters. *shrugs*

    Do you mean when an aspiring actress who makes millions clutches her award and spews during her acceptance speech that women are lesser in Hollywood and demand change?
    no but but i think once you've made millions and are standing on stage clutching an oscar, youre no longer aspiring. ;)

    Let's see how many movies she will make after her "speech".
    I venture to say not many.
    She is now become aspiring.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    Projected to make 154 million. THAT is why its being redone.

    Projection is not accurate.
    Can't wait to see the real results on opening day.
    Right, as in we're guessing we'll make this amount based off the track record of a couple of the stars we lined up to act in the lead roles. Projected.

    I'm slightly interested to know who exactly stated it was with a feminist agenda. Like who attached to the movie makes this assertion.
    In fact no I am not. Its a fucking movie. Watch or dont.
    I would like to know who makes those headlines too.
    Because of these headlines the movie will bomb.
    Regressive feminism.
    I don't see it as feminism.. regressive or otherwise. its just a marketing ploy. wow! look new ghostbusters with WOMEN! are we clever? aren't we being progressive and pro women? no youre not clever and no youre not being clever.. nor are you being pro women. youre thinking remaking a classic with the novelty of women will be enough to draw crowds(women) to the cinema. but I do appreciate you thinking we're stupid enough to fall for it... NOT.

    It is a very bad marketing strategy to shove women full throttle into something they shouldn't be.
    what do you mean by that?

    Hollywood is run by elite men. Look at the latest Oscar fiasco.
    This movie will not do well.
    yes hollywood is run by men but lets not absolve the women involved. theyre not slaves... nor indentured workers(as far as I know). they had the choice to say yes or no... and they exercised that choice. on some level they all thought doing this movie was a good idea. personally I just don't see it as a particularly good opportunity for women. tho you never know.. perhaps in time we'll discover one of the actresses involved was able to bring an important piece of film making to fruition because of the pay packet she got by selling her soul doing ghostbusters. *shrugs*

    Do you mean when an aspiring actress who makes millions clutches her award and spews during her acceptance speech that women are lesser in Hollywood and demand change?
    no but but i think once you've made millions and are standing on stage clutching an oscar, youre no longer aspiring. ;)

    Let's see how many movies she will make after her "speech".
    I venture to say not many.
    She is now become aspiring.
    are we speaking of someone specific???

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592

    mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
    My impression is you believe they arent up to the task as if they are incapable.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
    My impression is you believe they arent up to the task as if they are incapable.
    No.
    This movie is making aspiring actresses take on an insurmountable task.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
    I disagree. how could women be placated by the recasting of male roles simply to make a buck? its not as if the original idea was to remake it wth female leads... that scenario came about because bill murray very wisely said no... no doubt seeing zero merit in such an enterprise. tho I have no doubt there are women out there who will see it as a good thing. we need our own stories not rehashed male stories.

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
    My impression is you believe they arent up to the task as if they are incapable.
    No.
    This movie is making aspiring actresses take on an insurmountable task.
    So Melissa McCathy is apsiring huh? Bankable STAR. Kristen Wiig is great as well. I hardly would describe them as "aspiring" .

    The definition of aspiring is looking forward to something with great desire, hoping for some dream or goal to come true, or working towards making something happen.
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  • mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    mickeyrat said:

    No tell us why they shouldnt be in something like this.

    I can't tell anymore if you are angry or just inquisitive.
    It is like BET, etc.
    This movie has cast women to placate women.
    My impression is you believe they arent up to the task as if they are incapable.
    No.
    This movie is making aspiring actresses take on an insurmountable task.
    So Melissa McCathy is apsiring huh? Bankable STAR. Kristen Wiig is great as well. I hardly would describe them as "aspiring" .

    The definition of aspiring is looking forward to something with great desire, hoping for some dream or goal to come true, or working towards making something happen.
    They each have done well alone.
    Putting them all together to celebrate will not work.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003

    i am a guy. and i am a feminist.

    hi gimme. welcome to the discussion. :)

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  • ehbaconehbacon Posts: 1,971
    Many examples of the cliche man in here, in control of the world and too afraid to give it up.


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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    JWPearl said:

    rgambs said:


    the fetishisation of women continues.


    its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

    It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
    It's sad.

    Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
    Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
    I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though :smile:
    the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

    tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...


    There are so many men who are so insecure...it is just nuts.
    i love insecure men
    such a turn on
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    callen said:

    JWPearl said:

    rgambs said:


    the fetishisation of women continues.


    its funny you know cause for the longest time I didn't consider myself a feminist cause ive always grown up with a strong sense of myself as female and my belief that simply because I didn't have a penis didn't mean I wasn't equal to males. ive never liked labels cause to me that smacks of conformity. I remember being younger(preteen) and being told girls don't play football but you can be a cheerleader. I thought why the fuck would I want to be a cheerleader... I want to play, not watch. talk about disillusion. and I definitely dont want to be shaking pom poms for anyone

    It is crazy to think that we still have people who truly believe that women are not equal.
    It's sad.

    Feminist is not a bad term to fall under. Hell I am one.
    Just the rhetoric at times can be too much.
    I do know that I wouldn't want a man shaking pom poms for me though :smile:
    the rhetoric of anything can get too much.

    tho I have to say it amuses me no end how threatened some men get when confronted with a woman with strong opinions and convictions. rise up to my level, dont drag me down to yours...


    There are so many men who are so insecure...it is just nuts.
    i love insecure men
    such a turn on
    Plenty in church.
    In temples, mosques and other places of comfort and prayer for many as well?

    There are men and women all over this earth who question themselves at times, or even often.

    I have moments of insecurity too; who hasn't? And so what? Recognize it, learn from it, hopefully get over it, and move on.

    Find a way.
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